[Vo]:How Joshua Cude misrepresents arguments

2011-06-06 Thread P.J van Noorden
Dear Joshua, Critics of the so called cold fusion field, like you, always ask why there is so less progress in this field in the last 22 years, This interesting video from 2006http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89dbXdz--eI about the research of cold fusion by Italian researchers (de Ninno e.a)

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-06 Thread Michele Comitini
Hi Peter, Probably 22passi.blogspot.com (Daniele Passerini) has much more info that will leak at due time. At the moment it is interesting the fact that a team has started to work on the apparatus... In the mean time do you have any news about Piantelli's work? From the above blog I read that

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-06 Thread Andrea Selva
2011/6/6 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com Hi Peter, Probably 22passi.blogspot.com (Daniele Passerini) has much more info that will leak at due time. At the moment it is interesting the fact that *a team **has started to work on the apparatus... * Do you mean that an e-cat has

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-06 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Loris Ferrari said quite clearly that E-Cat what they have, can produce enough power for 10 to 20 washing machines with the input of incandescent light bulb. Reading rossignlish is very difficult skill, and Rossi's comments are not usually good source for information, because he does not say much

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-06 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Michele. I agree- Rossi has declared things as: no more tests before the 1MW event, his system has nothing in common with Piantelli's, he will make the E-cats to autodestruct if opened, he knows exactly what happens inside the functional E-cats. However reality is imposing its rules, for

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
Coincidentally, this story turned up today - about the Mach effect http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/scaling-up-mach-effect-propulsion.html#more From the comments - it seems nobody understands the full possibilities of the Mach effect very well, including goat guy, who is most of the way there

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Coincidentally, this story turned up today - about the Mach effect http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/scaling-up-mach-effect-propulsion.html#more From the comments - it seems nobody understands the full possibilities of

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen wrote: But that has not been true at all and will not be true in the future, because next demonstration will be 20.6. where Defkalion will show E-Cat for Greek government . . . I assume you mean June 20, 2011. (Date formats are different everywhere! The Japanese format makes

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-06 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:39, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jouni Valkonen wrote: But that has not been true at all and will not be true in the future, because next demonstration will be 20.6. where Defkalion will show E-Cat for Greek government . . . I assume you mean June 20, 2011. (Date formats

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-06 Thread Michele Comitini
Japan's way of representing date is correct: http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/iso-date Mic Il giorno 06/giu/2011 21:41, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com ha scritto:

[Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi June 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM Dear Greg: Good point. This is why we are very conservative regarding the sale of single modules. We are engineering a system that will destroy automatically the confidential parts if the reactor is open. The reactors will be open only in our factory to

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Alan, reporting on Rossi: Andrea Rossi June 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM Dear Greg: Good point. This is why we are very conservative regarding the sale of single modules. We are engineering a system that will destroy automatically the confidential parts if the reactor is open. The reactors

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Axil Axil
I wonder is some sort of non-destructive neutron activation probe can overcome the kill mechanism? On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Alan, reporting on Rossi: Andrea Rossi June 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM Dear Greg: Good

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Oh come now, Andrea! That sounds like a James Bond movie villain's secret headquarters. I love those places! They are built inside of volcano or underwater. The villains apparently all go to the same engineering firm, which is the world's worst. Probably unlicensed. James Bond throws one

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:24 PM 6/6/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: My guess about what Rossi means: the Ni catalyst is very reactive stuff. When you expose it to air it is rapidly contaminated, and it does not work well after that. Or it does not work at all. I'd bet that if you put the stuff, however contaminated,

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed: ... My guess about what Rossi means: the Ni catalyst is very reactive stuff. When you expose it to air it is rapidly contaminated, and it does not work well after that. Or it does not work at all. Lots of modern high tech stuff stops working if you open it up, by the way. NiCad

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: I'd bet that if you put the stuff, however contaminated, through a mass spectrometer you could figure out what the catalyst is, and probably the approximate proportion. A person who has a mass spectrometer would know to open the cell in a glove box, in a

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Craig Haynie
Has anyone read Atlas Shrugged? The protagonist develops a new engine which runs off a new and undiscovered type of energy. He doesn't trust anyone to respect his intellectual property, so he designs his lab to self-destruct should anyone try to enter it without his permission. :) Craig

RE: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
It would certainly be a violation of the lease contract to try to open one, with severe penalties, as well as probably illegal due to anti-reverse engineering laws. -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] [Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.] ... the approximate

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-06-06 23:02, Alan J Fletcher wrote: This is why we are very conservative regarding the sale of single modules. We are engineering a system that will destroy automatically the confidential parts if the reactor is open. The reactors will be open only in our factory to replace the charge.

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Terry Blanton
LOL! Wanna buy a bridge? T

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-06-06 23:02, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Andrea Rossi He added this today: * * * Dear Dr. Rossi, thank you for your reply. You write you are being conservative regarding the sales of single modules. But if Defkalion/AmpEnergo plans to produce 300 000 units per year do you think you

RE: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I worked with DES and AES encryption small hybrid electronic devices intended to be mounted on printed circuit boards, They had several layers of self destruct mechanisms in place such as a contact touching the sheet metal enclosure from the inside that when broken would do something to the

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Rossi: Regarding the protection of e-cat secrets. Dear Greg: Defkalion, I suppose, will not sell modules until the protection issue will not be resolved. Warm regards, A.R. Andrea supposes? 8D He can't be serious. By hook or crook, China will secure all the e-cats they need - all in

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Alan J Fletcher's message of Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:02:20 -0700: Hi, [snip] Andrea Rossi June 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM Dear Greg: Good point. This is why we are very conservative regarding the sale of single modules. We are engineering a system that will destroy automatically the

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Michele Comitini
Hi, Bad thoughts... ;-) This idea of protection by self distruction could imply the following: - market life of the product cannot be extended by RD over the years (i.e. the ecat cannot evolve much) - Defkalion/Ampenergo are not capable of becaming *the* brand for LENR devices they would not

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-06-07 00:27, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Andrea supposes?8D He can't be serious. I doubt he is. How are they going to have total control on hundred of thousands of devices supposedly going to be manufactured, anyway? Motivated people and organizations will crack them open

[Vo]:New Bushnell transcript

2011-06-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
With the kind permission of EV World, I now have a new transcript of the Bushnell Interview: http://lenr.qumbu.com/110606_evworld_bushnell_interview_part1_v401.php

Re: [Vo]:eCat self-destruct mode

2011-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Akira Shirakawa's message of Tue, 07 Jun 2011 01:14:03 +0200: Hi, [snip] I do think that too, if his E-Cats will work as intended; less so if in order to pursue personal wealth (as if he isn't going to get rich anyway) he is going to willingly delay and limit public access to the