On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This document, “the E-Cat does not produce excess Energy” has some some
strange assertions.
Science by survey? ---but yeah, I put in my two cents.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I've set up a survey at
http://www.zoomerang.com/**Survey/WEB22CPD9867MH/http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22CPD9867MH/
Results can (I hope) be seen at:
Hi
Are you aware of these?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_column :
A rotating fluid has a specific kind of rigidity, it does not quite act
like a fluid anymore.
It seems to explain a lot of vortex phenomena. The effect was described in
1868 and are not mysterious at all. There will be
Malcolm
July 12th, 2011 at 5:02 AM
Thank you for your detailed reply to Dr. Mario Voltaggio. You mention
that the heating effect is due to gamma absorption by the lead. I assume
from this that the lead shielding is in fact in direct contact with the
copper water jacket and so the water is
Rossi said:
Andrea Rossi
July 12th, 2011 at 6:24
AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501cpage=1#comment-52306
Dear Malcom,
Yes, also.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Yes also means that both the reaction vessel and the lead shield both
generated heat, IMHO.
the proportions are as follows:
At 10:11 AM 7/12/2011, Axil Axil wrote:
Dear Malcom,
Yes, also.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Yes also means that both the reaction vessel and the lead shield
both generated heat, IMHO.
the proportions are as follows: reaction vessel = a lot
Lead shied = a little.
Oops .. I goofed on summarizing
I listened to EVWorld's interview with Andrea Rossi:
http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=2004
What I hadn't noticed is that on the table behind them is an array of what look
to be Good-and-Proper e-Cats. I don't know if this is an old photo that
already made its rounds, but I found
This proves that if this is a scam, a lot of people are on it together!!!
Any thoughts?
How about common confusion rather than scam.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
This proves that if this is a scam, a lot of people are on it together!!!
Any thoughts?
Hello group,
It looks like there have been interesting news on the (private) CMNS
mailing list as of late. Passerini in his latest post on his 22passi
blog reported one email in particular (probably forwarded by Celani)
regarding tritium production from Rossi-like Ni-H LENR experiments. I
There's an audio interview with AR on the right column. He's at home in Miami.
T
Hello group,
This is straight from New Energy Times. Puzzling news, to say the least:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/07/12/uppsala-university-denies-rossi-research-agreement/
* * *
Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement
Posted on July 12, 2011 by Steven B. Krivit
According
On 2011-07-12 20:58, Terry Blanton wrote:
There's an audio interview with AR on the right column. He's at home in Miami.
Here's a direct link to the mp3 file:
http://www.evworld.com/evworld_audio/Andrea_Rossi.mp3
Cheers,
S.A.
At 11:58 AM 7/12/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
There's an audio interview with AR on the right column. He's at
home in Miami.
No hard questions. (Don't mention the Steam quality!) ... the only
clarification I got was that the original factory heating eCat was
no longer in operation. That
There is no reason to sit and say it for so long, in a daily basis, in
these wonderful claims without either being a scammer or all being
true. I cannot think that any kind of decent physicist would exist in
an intermediary category.
Akira - yes this conversation did happen; but it is/was NOT supposed to be
public. The subject line is also misleading.
Celani (via Passerini) should not have posted it. But, since 'LA-cat is out
of the bag,' why not make the best of it?
This is an extraordinarily important validation for the
On 2011-07-12 22:21, Jones Beene wrote:
Akira - yes this conversation did happen; but it is/was NOT supposed to be
public. The subject line is also misleading.
Celani (via Passerini) should not have posted it. But, since 'LA-cat is out
of the bag,' why not make the best of it?
[snip]
Thanks
On 11-07-12 03:04 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 11:58 AM 7/12/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
There's an audio interview with AR on the right column. He's at home
in Miami.
No hard questions. (Don't mention the Steam quality!) ... the only
clarification I got was that the original factory
In Rossi's E-Cat reactor we have essentially a low-quality boiler. Escaping
steam bubbles have to rise through entering room-temperature water. This can
cool the steam causing condensation. A decent simulation coul be arranged by
boiing water in a flask with a glass tube and rubber tube. The
-Original Message-
From: Akira Shirakawa
By the way, I wonder if the Rossi-like experiment being tested at
LANL has something to do with the recently disclosed Brillouin device
which is supposed to be replicated there too...
... that is a very good bet
Perhaps this is the reason
Been unable to post from home or work since Sunday
I find nothing strange about this report.
So what if he sold the building. He kept the reactor, and has produced hundreds
more since then. Defkalion has proceeded to build hundreds more. Defkalion has
actually built their own units, tested them, and they work great.
What I find strange is that
On 11-07-12 05:36 PM, noone noone wrote:
I find nothing strange about this report.
So what if he sold the building. He kept the reactor, and has produced
hundreds more since then. Defkalion has proceeded to build hundreds
more. Defkalion has actually built their own units, tested them, and
My wife got this email from AR:
Dear Marcia,
I never said that we have a contract with the University of Uppsala.
Professors of the University of Uppsala made test with our apparatus,
but without a contract. It has been a free, indipendent test. We are
in contact with the University of Uppsala
Jones Beene wrote:
Claytor tried to go public with early convincing work nearly twenty years
ago, but because of the National Security Implications he was effectively
silenced; and dropped out of view for many years.
That's not true. He published several papers. Several are uploaded at
At 12:01 PM 7/12/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Hello group,
This is straight from New Energy Times. Puzzling news, to say the least:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/07/12/uppsala-university-denies-rossi-research-agreement/
Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala
University, and
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-07-12 05:36 PM, noone noone wrote:
I find nothing strange about this report.
So what if he sold the building. He kept the reactor, and has
produced hundreds more since then. Defkalion has proceeded to build
hundreds more. Defkalion has actually built their
Vanished, forever what do you mean, Stephen?
Seems to me we simply don't have enough facts to make conclusive
judgments about the Rossi affair either way.
Skeptics will simply point to the unaccounted-for or sold factory
statement as yet another long string of convenient deflections made by
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
[KRIVIT] Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University,
and Hanno Essén, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed
Rossi’s claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before
they had seen or inspected the device. Essén is the chairman of
It almost makes one think that Krivit has a vested interest elsewhere
as AR implicated.
T
That is obvious in my opinion. He pushes his Widom Larsen theory on everyone,
and anyone who dares oppose it he attacks. It is obvious he has a vested
interest in proving Widom Larsen theory. I think since Rossi denied his
technology has anything to do with with Widom Larsen theory, Krivit
It is an outright lie.
Krivit is doing everything he can to attack Rossi.
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement
Alan J Fletcher
At 02:49 PM 7/12/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote:
My wife got this email from
AR:
Dear Marcia,
I never said that we have a contract with the University of Uppsala.
Professors of the University of Uppsala made test with our
apparatus,
but without a contract. It has been a free, indipendent test. We are
On 2011-07-12 23:18, Jones Beene wrote:
No - it is more about secrecy and proliferation - and the early history of
LENR. Not to mention, when someone asks you not to go public with a
conversation, it is considered good-form to honor their request. The
LENR-world may never hear from him again.
Thanks for all your responses. I've closed it, but the results are
still available
http://www.zoomerang.com/Shared/SharedResultsPasswordPage.aspx?ID=L26QG6QVBZQL
Pretty bimodal :
Definitely a
problem 33 41%
Probably a
problem
7 9%
Don't know/ don't care 7
9%
Probably not a problem 24 30%
Also :
Andrea Rossi
June 17th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Dear Maryyugo:
We have already made enough public tests ...
About the work that we will make with the University of Bologna and
Uppsala, this will not be a public demo, but a work of Research and
Development, made closed doors.
Warm Regards,
On 2011-07-13 02:31, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-22
The following excerpt from the above interview is wow news to me. Is
NASA going to get actively involved with Rossi? Wow again if true:
* * *
The management team of both Defkalion and
On 2011-07-13 02:55, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2011-07-13 02:31, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-22
Ah, sorry, I just noticed (too late...) that you did actually quote that
as well. I must be blind to text in italics (as it was rendered on my
From the top of the Ny Teknik feb. 23rd article: ”You just have to embrace a
new technology that might solve the energy problems of mankind, at least until
it can be rejected,” Swedish professor Sven Kullander said in a scientific
discussion on the Italian ‘energy catalyzer’.
Wouldn't you
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