[Vo]:two new postings

2011-10-30 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, Andrea Rossi's deeds continue to be an insoluble intelligence test for me, perhaps I have to find a geriatrist- see please: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/10/eventually-it-was-m-day-for-rossi.html And I have published a new issue of Informavore's Sunday:

Re: [Vo]:Some calculations, discussion and accurate temperature graph

2011-10-30 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Does anyone have an idea how long time and on what power level input electricity was supplied into device? Rossi said in the raport: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3303693.ece/BINARY/Report+Ecat+Oct28+%28pdf%29 that input power was zero between 12:30 and 18:00. Does this means that input

Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-30 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 23:41, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Two more videos by PESN: Andrea Rossi Reports on 1 MW E-Cat Test October 28 2011 Part 1: http://youtu.be/nc5K090SZFg Part 2: http://youtu.be/1UmoBoAcvxg Part 3: [to be uploaded soon] Part 4: [to be uploaded soon] Cheers, S.A.

[Vo]:At least Rossi has shown he has everything needed.

2011-10-30 Thread Peter Heckert
He has two big, big water containers. These would be absolutely sufficient to do a conclusive test with a thin cat.

RE: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
And let us not forget Occam’s razor. Dr. Ed Storms, in his book, makes a good point that any theory of the mechanism should explain all of the experimental evidence, not just a convenient subset. It seems to me (Occam’s razor) that there is only one truly new phenomenon taking place in this

[Vo]:Fwd: Energy Catalzyer: Extraordinary Scams Require Extraordinary Claims

2011-10-30 Thread fznidarsic
-Original Message- From: New Energy Times no-re...@newenergytimes.com To: FZNIDARSIC fznidar...@aol.com Sent: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 11:18 pm Subject: Energy Catalzyer: Extraordinary Scams Require Extraordinary Claims October 29, 2011 Noble Aspirations Are Not Enough

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Energy Catalzyer: Extraordinary Scams Require Extraordinary Claims

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
You have to hand it to Krivit: he does not back down or mince his words. If I were him, I would leave myself some wiggle room in case it turns out Rossi is not a fraud. There is no question that Rossi makes it easy for people to attack him. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Energy Catalzyer: Extraordinary Scams Require Extraordinary Claims

2011-10-30 Thread Ecat Builder
I don't understand the New Energy Times agenda. Very strange that they use Krivit and his continued description of Rossi as a promoter. Now they say it's a good thing nobody has given Rossi much money-- because heaven forbid this technology could have gotten to the public sooner. As I am

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Energy Catalzyer: Extraordinary Scams Require Extraordinary Claims

2011-10-30 Thread David Roberson
I am also surprised by the actions taken by them. One would think that Krivit would want to encourage Mr. Rossi in his endeavors. It must all be related to Krivit's June trip and the things that transpired between Rossi and he. Dave -Original Message- From: Ecat Builder

Re: [Vo]:Forget John Galt, who is Domenico Fioravanti?

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: I would suggest that someone over at Rossi's blog ask Rossi for information on Domenico Fiorvanati. State the request simply and politely. He has already said he does not want to reveal this. Fiorvanati met with Lewan and

Re: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
How would that explain the absence of radioactive elements of random half life times? 2011/10/30 Higgins Bob-CBH003 bob.higg...@motorolasolutions.com And let us not forget Occam’s razor. Dr. Ed Storms, in his book, makes a good point that any theory of the mechanism should explain all of the

[Vo]:Video: validation of New Energy Source from nickel -hydrogen reaction by Rowan University in 2008.

2011-10-30 Thread francis
David, You make a very timely point. Although many of us were disappointed by the shroud of secrecy suddenly wrapped around the long touted 1MW test of Rossi it is still additional information that will help us to unlock the principles behind these anomalies. The 1st and 2nd Rowan

Re: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread David Roberson
My first impression of the Widom and Larsen theory was enthusiastic and it seemed to explain many of the observations. We may eventually prove that it is correct, but I see at least one major issue that it poorly explains. What happens to the energetic gammas that are generated by the

Re: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread fznidarsic
What happens to the energetic gammas that are generated by the transitions between states? Good question Dave. That's why I had it with the Casimer geometries, the shrunken atom, and Widom and Larsen. I have my own ideas about this downshifting (following the lead of David Noever) and

Re: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread Axil Axil
“Dr. Ed Storms, in his book, makes a good point that any theory of the mechanism should explain all of the experimental evidence, not just a convenient subset.” Why does deuterium kill the Rossi Reaction (Ni-H)? Why is high hydrogen pressure required to maintain the Ni-H reaction? Why is

[Vo]:iReport

2011-10-30 Thread Harry Veeder
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-696792 an 'iReport' about the eCat posted on CNN. Harry

[Vo]:Associated Press- Three Days of the Condor- Rossi Cold Fusion Coverage

2011-10-30 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, Redford s movie: Three Days of the Condor is about encrypted oil well locations and a CIA research group decoding this fact. They are all killed except Redford, since the de-coding wasn t desired by the head of the CIA. There is also a comment on oil being linked to

Re: [Vo]:Associated Press- Three Days of the Condor- Rossi Cold Fusion Coverage

2011-10-30 Thread Terry Blanton
His name is Martin Fleischmann and I seriously doubt this conversation took place. My main reason for this is that no one knows for sure whether CF can be weaponized. I strongly suspect that it can if it has not already happened. T

Re: [Vo]:iReport

2011-10-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-696792 an 'iReport' about the eCat posted on CNN. OMG! But I suspect the world will wait a long time for the A.P. story. It appears, at least, that we've all been cheated of progress

Re: [Vo]:iReport

2011-10-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On a whim, I googled Fioravanti hoping this might be the name of the mystery company. http://www.fioravanti.it/ This is a architectural/design firm so I doubt it. However, because they design the body of cars it got me thinking that the mystery company might be an automobile company, such as

Re: [Vo]:Associated Press- Three Days of the Condor- Rossi Cold Fusion Coverage

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: His name is Martin Fleischmann and I seriously doubt this conversation took place. Something like that took place. I do not know what Teller talked about, but he did call out of the blue when Fleischmann was mysteriously delayed in San Francisco.

Re: [Vo]:iReport

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The test was for a customer - his first name was Colonel - who immediately hooked up the 20-ft container it was placed in and drove it away. So, he just wrote AR a check and hooked the container up to his F250 and drove away? So, there wasn't a single

Re: [Vo]:iReport

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
The i-reporter i-reported: The test was for a customer - his first name was Colonel . . . I doubt that was his name. Unless he is like Major Major Major Major in Catch 22. During WWII there was some discussion of promoting Gen. Marshall to a Field Marshall which would have made him Marshall

[Vo]:Unidentified subject!

2011-10-30 Thread Dusty Bradshaw
First time poster here, but have been reading voraciously for a long time now, and I've been wondering why Rossi has been using those RFG's.. I found something that might explain it. It seems RFG's can be used to dissociate water, and produce hydrogen, and burn it.. Here is the link, and was

Re: [Vo]:Unidentified subject! RFG's if you please...

2011-10-30 Thread Dusty Bradshaw
LOL, sorry for the missing subject. -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux --- On Sun, 10/30/11, Dusty Bradshaw d_bra...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Dusty Bradshaw d_bra...@bellsouth.net Subject: [Vo]:Unidentified subject!

[Vo]:New Forbes article by Gibbs

2011-10-30 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Mark Gibbs: Believing in Cold Fusion and the E-Cat http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/30/believing-in-cold-fusion-and-the-e-cat/ It captured quite well the honest disappointment of the great test that was flat as pancake.

Re: [Vo]:New Forbes article by Gibbs

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Gibbs wrote: Allow me to digress for a moment to ask all of you who sent me messages in tones ranging from polite through to downright rudeasserting that cold fusion has actually been successfully duplicated: If an experiment that demonstrates cold fusion has really been replicated in the

Re: [Vo]:Some calculations, discussion and accurate temperature graph

2011-10-30 Thread Michele Comitini
Jed, I am among. I simply meant to say that Fioravanti can have a legal degree in engineering, but he does not need to be registered among the Ordine degli Ingegneri to make a report for his employer. On the other hand if he is a consultant then it is very likely that he will (or has by now)

Re: [Vo]:Some calculations, discussion and accurate temperature graph

2011-10-30 Thread Michele Comitini
Jed, sorry I deleted a piece of the first sentence... I wrote: I am among those that don't have a clear writing as yours... mic 2011/10/30 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com: Jed, I am among. I simply meant to say that Fioravanti can have a legal degree in engineering, but he does

[Vo]:ZPE as the source of energy enabling nuclear reactions

2011-10-30 Thread francis
There are presently several threads exploring the different potential nuclear paths behind this anomaly. I know Hefner's deflation theory, WL ultra-low momentum (ULM) neutron theory and various Beta decay theories are all more plausible to explain the level of energy derived then say MAHG theory

Re: [Vo]:Some calculations, discussion and accurate temperature graph

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: But are called Ingegnere even if the correct term would be Dottore in Ingegneria so reading Ing. in front of a name does not imply being registered to the Ordine degli Ingegneri unless the document is a public contract. I think what you

[Vo]:1MW Steam outlet tubes - update required?

2011-10-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi, jugding from this video at 0:02 they added one steam outlet tube: http://youtu.be/uFiJb2UhzqY The dimensions of the container are 5.0m x 2.6m x 2.6m This is mentioned in the final report: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3303693.ece/BINARY/Report+Ecat+Oct28+%28pdf%29 I downloaded

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Rides into Sunset : answered a few questions from the saddle

2011-10-30 Thread Alan Fletcher
# Hampus October 30th, 2011 at 3:54 PM Hi Great work. 1. How many 1 megawatt plants can you sell in one year do you think? 2. When is the next sell? 3. When will the home plants be available for pursued? I know time is of the essence, that’s why my questions are so rash. Thanks for you

Re: [Vo]:Forget John Galt, who is Domenico Fioravanti?

2011-10-30 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, On 30-10-2011 16:11, Jed Rothwell wrote: 3. He is covering up a scam. #3 seems far-fetched but there is no hard evidence for any of these three. You can pick one and say your intuition favors it, but anyone who says they know for sure which it is should be asked to supply an

Re: [Vo]:Forget John Galt, who is Domenico Fioravanti?

2011-10-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:11:46 -0400: Hi, [snip] OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: I would suggest that someone over at Rossi's blog ask Rossi for information on Domenico Fiorvanati. State the request simply and politely. I

Re: [Vo]:Some calculations, discussion and accurate temperature graph

2011-10-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Man on Bridges manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: However the title Professor is to my knowledge not a protected title, so anyone could use it. Here in Atlanta, anyone can call himself a Bishop. See Bishop Eddie Long. - Jed

RE: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
David Roberson wrote: I recall an old phrase attributed to Sherlock Holmes along the lines of Once all of the probable answers have been proven wrong, then it must be the improbable. Someone among the vortex will correct my phrase and that is a good thing. My wording is incorrect, but that is

Re: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread David Roberson
Thanks, I knew I could count on the vortex! -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 10:54 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag? David Roberson wrote: I recall an old phrase attributed

RE: [Vo]: Is the ECAT out of the bag?

2011-10-30 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Dave Roberson asks: “What happens to the energetic gammas that are generated by the transitions between states? They seem to gloss over that detail and talk about some unusual mechanism that converts them into infrared radiation. It would be an incredible coincidence for all of these gammas

[Vo]: Some more Sherlockiana...

2011-10-30 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
You’re most welcome… been a Holmes fan since college days… 30 yrs ago! A few other bits of Sherlockiana… Although Holmes said, “Elementary, Watson”, and “My dear Watson”, Holmes never said, “Elementary, my dear Watson.” Sherlock had a smarter, older brother… Mycroft Holmes. Holmes