So I understood, but then the flip side: why the questions about the
calorimetry? Again, what am I missing?
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
He did it...
2012/8/18 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
Good calorimetry is difficult, but comparisons are
Several papers name the New York Community Trust as the grant giver.
Is there a significant increase in grants for research ?
That would be an clear indication of a turning point: more grants,
more and better research, more exposure, more credibilty.
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Jed
Ive a bit concern about the total radiation. But Im not expert in
calorimetry, neither in heat transfer.
Radiation is emission of IR (infrared) from a warm surface. The Boltzmanns
law give the energy radiated from a surface at a given temperature and kind
of material.
Inside the
Fast Recomb? What the hell is that? Matter collapse? What was the
chemical reaction?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
That death was from a chemical explosion. SRI, recombiner gunked up,
researcher picked up the cell, gunk fell off, fast
Right, they made up a new state called Inverted Rydberg State that has
ultra high density. Don't they really mean collapsed?
Axil, I really don't think we are that far off. In both my theory and
Miley a cluster of ultra high density matter is shredding it's environment
and leaving a host of
They are proposed to range from the largest of 6.6 billion solar masses
down to 23 micrograms, the planck mass, about a grain of sand, but
collapsed. I propose that they are not really stable they are always
emitting some form of Ultra Low Momentum Radiation (see I can event my own
terms also!)
Also, I forgot to mention that Jim Patterson's grandson who was helping him
develop a commercial product from his cell, died at age 31 from some type
of brain anuerism or hemmorage (not sure still checking).
We all know what this reaction is doing to the matter in a wire or lattice,
what if
Is there any way to guesstimate – assuming the best reasonable kind of
insulation is added to retain heat, something like aerogel, etc – how much
more mass of active wire (if any) would be necessary to get close to a
nominally self-sustaining system?
** **
Jones
That would be
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:40 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Fast Recomb?
Fast recombination of the H2 and O2 back into water and heat.
T
Our IC engine testing euphemism for fires and explosions was a thermal
event
On 18 August 2012 14:49, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:40 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Fast Recomb?
Fast recombination of the H2 and O2 back into water and heat.
CE, I think you need to gather your thoughts in one place, write a
comprehensive paper and flesh out many lacking details to your theory, instead
of repeating yourself ad nauseam here in Vortex, and interject your theory at
every post.
Your theory as posted in your blog is glaringly
From: Robert Lynn
* Bigger problem is stopping it from over-heating. Ideally need to
surround it in a heat sink with a controllable temperature - eg 120°C so
that as the reactor gets hotter than that it will rapidly start to transfer
heat to the heat sink. Want the heat sink close to the
On Aug 18, 2012, at 5:53, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil, I really don't think we are that far off. In both my theory and Miley
a cluster of ultra high density matter is shredding it's environment and
leaving a host of products.
I think a black hole is somewhat different than
At 10:30 AM 8/17/2012, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
I think AR is smarter than this.
He said Ni+p - Cu when it knew it was not the case. With this statement, he
was sure that Cu will not be taken as a potential catalyst and only a
by-product.
Note that this could be parallel with Jospeh Papp. Papp
On Aug 17, 2012, at 18:28, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
Widom Larsen postulate that the neutrons are produced when a proton captures
an electron. The process is endothermic (energy must be supplied or it will
not occur) so the neutrons initially have extremely low energy (cold). As
At 10:54 AM 8/17/2012, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2012-08-17 17:43, Jones Beene wrote:
Why do you say that 3W/cm² is not enough for a commercial product ? We are
talking about an alloy that costs only $20/kg (US) in large volume lots.
The treatment (not known in detail yet - but
Celani said
I think the invention was real, powerful and very uncertain and unreliable,
prone to failures, malfunctions and explosions, nature of the beast.
On Saturday, August 18, 2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 10:30 AM 8/17/2012, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
I think AR is smarter than this.
He said Ni+p
At 11:27 AM 8/17/2012, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2012-08-17 18:03, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Beware that the extra heat/g. And that's the up limit. Generally, it's
around 40W/g and 50/g. You'd have to use some complicated scheme to get
an electrical feedback and self sustain.
True, actual average
This is a certificate of an independent and legally witnessed test of the
Papp engine by two independent witnesses in 1983.
http://www.plasmerg.com/_files/Cert.pdf
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 10:30 AM 8/17/2012, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 10:30 AM 8/17/2012, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
I think AR is smarter than this.
He said Ni+p - Cu when it knew it was not the case. With this statement,
he
was sure that Cu will not be taken as a potential
Actually, I tend agree with Robin that measuring cannot increase the
energy of the particle. My question reflects my own attempt to
understand why it is so. Now that I have thought about it, it is
because one doesn't measure energy per se. Most measurements are
really the result of calculations
Hello Akira,
I can't see any bad news.
If I'm correct, Miley's team reports a much more robust reaction than
previously seen, along with a variety of extremely anomalous
transmutations.
Certainly, any fusion reaction will require enough energy to surmount high
potential barriers between
Hello Harry,
To be really precise, though, an energy measurement of a particle in a
superposition of energy eigenstates might find it in one of the states
higher than the weighted average energy of its wavefunction. So, you
might say that the measurement increased its energy, but over many such
Strange Rossi posts :
a) COP = 3 to 6 ?
Andrea Rossi
August 18th, 2012 at 7:34 AM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=695cpage=2#comment-304432
Dear Ing. Benedetto Schiavone:
1- Our industrial plants are based on the modules of 10 kW of power. We are
already manufacturing them, and
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Is there any way to guesstimate – assuming the best reasonable kind of
insulation is added to retain heat, something like aerogel, etc – how much
more mass of active wire (if any) would be necessary to get close to a
nominally self-sustaining system?
The efficiency of a gas electric generator is about 33%. If the Cop of a
Rossi reactor is 3, that means that the Rossi plant is about the same cost
wise as a straight up gas burner.
When gas is used to fire the Rossi reactor, the overall efficiency of that
reactor goes up a few times but it is
I never trusted all the claims of Rossi. His paranoia is understandable with
his history (Petroldragon and so) and the matter of topic here.
This attitude doesn't help LENR in the short term. But what is a few years
regarding the long story of the mankind? It is always too short, but man is
a
I think the point of (b) in the original message was that today's posting
by Rossi talks about a 1MW plant using the future tense. Which seems to
conflict with some prior statements by Rossi.
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The efficiency of a gas
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net (or is it Joro Jaro?) wrote:
. . . For this and many other reasons, I stopped paying attention to Rossi
some
time ago, due to this propensity for dishonesty and trickery.
I think that is a big mistake. I recommend you pay close attention to him *
despite*
At 03:06 PM 8/17/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 01:17 PM 8/17/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Unreadable for me.
Full paper :
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Godes-Controlled-Electron-Capture-Paper.pdf
Appendix A just lists a bunch of reactions ...
with NO
At 11:58 AM 8/17/2012, Jones Beene wrote:
Further on this point (with some rewording):
IMPLICATION - there are 20+ years of positive experiments
with palladium-deuterium, most of them using hydrogen as a control. Hydrogen
does not seem to work at all in pure palladium. If H
On 17 August 2012 19:58, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
5) Helium ash is often seen with Pd-D but no helium is seen with Ni-H.
But have we looked for helium in Ni-H systems? I would doubt that because
Ni-H is rather new way to produce excess heat and it is not well
established.
Hi LP,
I haven't read the paper, but I don't disagree with claim. In fact it
should not be unexpected.
Even in a macroscopic system a concentration energy can come about as
a result of energy being transferred from the measuring system to the
system being measured. Of course, such a measuring
I am curious about the weak and erratic comment. What about evidence like
this -
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Dash-Effect%20of%20Recrystallization-Paper.pdf
This doesn't look that hard to reproduce - the main problem is access to
the spectrometer-equipped SEM,
Thanks for writing this, I was also scratching my head trying to figure out
whether Godes and W-L were saying the same thing or not.
Minor comment: I think you typo'd 782MeV when meaning 782KeV.
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 03:06 PM
Le Aug 18, 2012 à 4:28 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com a écrit :
But have we looked for helium in Ni-H systems? I would doubt that because
Ni-H is rather new way to produce excess heat and it is not well established.
When I looked for helium as an ash from the Ni-H systems sometime
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Or, they are two totally different, unrelated reactions.
That would violate what McKubre calls the conservation of miracles
principle.
Okay, that's just a rule of thumb, or a gut feeling.
- Jed
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Certain electrical
inputs to the cell were changed deliberately in a
proprietary manner effecting Q frequency content.
In other words, we aren't being told enough information so that this
finding could be independently replicated.
Is the
I saw this too. It's a quote. The word proprietary actually appears 6
times in the Godes document, in relation to this and other aspects of the
work. It seems unlikely to be an accident or temporary.
Celani also describes the large help of an unnamed Italian company with
respect to processing the
BTW, I appear to contradict myself when I said measuring cannot
increase the energy of the particle
vs I agree with the claim that measuring can concentrate energy in a
system. In the former, I mean I don't accept the idea that measuring
can somehow increase the energy the particle without the
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
I suppose that if this work all holds up, the mainstream scientific
community may get what it deserves for shunning the discipline: all the key
results may be locked up behind an impenetrable veil of trade secrecy.
That subject came up in the panel
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
That would violate what McKubre calls the conservation of miracles
principle.
But not the call to maximize miracles!
T
I sent Mike a copy of the message I posted here, along with Robert Lynn's
analysis. He responded:
It would be fair to say that I have some concerns and am working with
others to see if these can be resolved. I also think that the core of the
experiment is a very clever idea and look forward to
In reply to ChemE Stewart's message of Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:09:52 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
They are proposed to range from the largest of 6.6 billion solar masses
down to 23 micrograms, the planck mass, about a grain of sand, but
collapsed. I propose that they are not really stable they are always
From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:39:47 PM
I think the point of (b) in the original message was that today's
posting by Rossi talks about a 1MW plant using the future tense. Which
seems to conflict with some prior statements by Rossi.
Jeff
Trying to
This is a very refreshing response. I certainly hope you are correct.
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
I suppose that if this work all holds up, the mainstream scientific
community may get what it deserves
Nano-structures to realise hydrogen's energy potential
http://phys.org/news/2012-08-nano-structures-realise-hydrogen-energy-potential.html
It seems they're seeing remarkable improvements in the thermodynamic and
kinetic properties of their material, including a significant energy release
at 350
I agree. Basically I am talking about collapsed matter as the primary
trigger for all of the secoondary reactions which Abd is working on
figuring out. In quantum mechanics this is effected by the strength of
quantum scale gravity and also the hoop effect caused by a void. Once
matter
On the one hand I think there may be some bad science reporting at work
here - the abstract (as opposed to the phys.org summary) doesn't use the
term energy release, only hydrogen release and hydrogen
absorption/desorption.
On the other hand, I recognized hydroborate from the ICCF papers on
If you open this link:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulated-LENR-Paper.pdf
It turns out that the PDF contains three separate and unrelated LENR papers
stuck together end to end.
The second of the three papers is analysis of the applicability of W-L to
Better save it before Krivit purges that!
2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
If you open this link:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulated-LENR-Paper.pdf
It turns out that the PDF contains three separate and unrelated LENR
papers stuck
grin right, the author has nothing nice to say about W-L.
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Better save it before Krivit purges that!
2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
If you open this link:
The problem is Rossi :D
2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
grin right, the author has nothing nice to say about W-L.
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Better save it before Krivit purges that!
2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
If
Robin stated,
Other factors to take into consideration are that a neutral black hole
would oscillate back and forth through the planet
Funny, that's exactly how electrons behave in my physical model... with the
electron 'hole' being the other half of the electron. So whatever is
oscillating is
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