[Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread Mint Candy
*Take note: Check Patent bottom right. http://lenr.scienceontheweb.net/ M.*

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-18 10:42, Mint Candy wrote: *Take note: Check Patent bottom right. http://lenr.scienceontheweb.net/ M.* A more convenient link to the patent: http://www.google.com/patents/US20120033775 Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From David, ... If you find yourself feeling too important, all you need do is consider how large you are compared to the smallest galaxy. The universe is likely unaware of your puny existence among the uncountable hordes that probably inhabit it. Does that thought help you to place events

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
The Santilli patent claims an electric arc. It's entirely unclear whether that is the same invention or a different invention. If we're going afield, we can also include Godes, who focuses on quite a different design but claims a number of different embodiments. Godes first filed way back in 2005.

Re: [Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jouni, ... indeed, I hope this will boost our efforts to launch second generation planet finder after Kepler loses it's ability to maintain the direction of vision. So that we could have direct measurements of near by planets. There are currently no ongoing projects, however space

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread David Roberson
This is exactly what the world does not need. I can see the patent trolls licking their lips as they contemplate how to litigate ridiculous claims against each other and the legitimate inventors. Should all of us become involved in this insanity? I would hope that there are many others

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From David: This is exactly what the world does not need. I can see the patent trolls licking their lips as they contemplate how to litigate ridiculous claims against each other and the legitimate inventors. Unfortunately, I suspect it is inevitable in our digital society. NTL, I suspect we

Re: [Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-18 Thread David Roberson
I have a thought for the astronomy buffs among us. We are discussing the performance of the future Space Telescopes which should be capable of seeing quite a bit further into the past. It is supposed to be capable of finding the first galaxies which implies that it will therefore find older

Re: [Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
A little mind game, if you wish. ;-) Let me bring back an excerpt from the James Webb Space Telescope: Webb will find the first galaxies that formed in the early Universe, connecting the Big Bang… However, IMO, there appears to be a huge paradox for which I suspect most of us have been

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Taken to the limit the patents only apply to nations that recognize patent law – and those nations will simply collapse economically unable to compete with those nations that do not, Every day the patent system delays LENR development the further behind we will fall – It may be too late to

[Vo]:Discover article about cold fusion

2012-10-18 Thread fznidarsic
It was short and sweet and could have been written by Kirvit. Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Discover article about cold fusion

2012-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It was short and sweet and could have been written by Kirvit. Sounds good. But what is it? Where? What? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Discover article about cold fusion

2012-10-18 Thread fznidarsic
Discover magazine November 2012. It has a dinosaur on the cover. Article Its back: Cold Fusion by Mark Anderson That's Popular Science and Discover carrying articles on cold fusion. Anderson likes Widom Larson. Frank Z -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Discover article about cold fusion

2012-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Discover magazine November 2012. It has a dinosaur on the cover. Article Its back: Cold Fusion by Mark Anderson Thanks. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Discover article about cold fusion

2012-10-18 Thread James Bowery
Big Idea: Bring Back the Cold Fusion Dream A new theory may explain the notorious cold fusion experiment from two decades ago, reigniting hopes of a clean-energy breakthrough. by Mark Anderson http://discovermagazine.com/2012/nov Of course, we must always remember that theory precedes

[Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC : Women in Avery Binders

2012-10-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Durable-Binder-EZ-Turn-17032/product-reviews/B001B0CTMU/ref=cm_cr_pr_btm_link_2?ie=UTF8pageNumber=2showViewpoints=0 (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- and the defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!)

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC : Women in Avery Binders

2012-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
I love it!! On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Avery-**Durable-Binder-EZ-Turn-17032/** product-reviews/B001B0CTMU/**ref=cm_cr_pr_btm_link_2?ie=**

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC : Women in Avery Binders

2012-10-18 Thread Terry Blanton
http://i.imgur.com/rY6MD.png

RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC : Women in Avery Binders

2012-10-18 Thread Jones Beene
Geeze T are you a mind-reader or simply a XX kinda guy? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton http://i.imgur.com/rY6MD.png

RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC : Women in Avery Binders

2012-10-18 Thread Jones Beene
http://cdn03.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/17/mitt-romney -women-in-binders-meme-10172012-06.jpeg ... according to XX, the most interesting man in the world. -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC : Women in Avery Binders

2012-10-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Geeze T are you a mind-reader or simply a XX kinda guy? The rest of them: http://selfdeprecate.com/meme-pictures/mitt-romney-binder-full-women-memes/

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC : Women in Avery Binders

2012-10-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Geeze T are you a mind-reader or simply a XX kinda guy? Great minds think alike. Fools seldom differ.

[Vo]:Popular Science Article: Andrea Rossi's Black Box

2012-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Just finished reading Popular Science's November article on Rossi the LENR movement. Article by Steve Featherstone. I was prepared to dislike the contents. However, I have to say that I thought it was a pretty decent read. Reasonably informative, all considered. Not surprisingly Rossi and his

Re: [Vo]:Popular Science Article: Andrea Rossi's Black Box

2012-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: However, I have to say that I thought it was a pretty decent read. Reasonably informative, all considered. Yup. It was about Rossi, not cold fusion in general. It was not intended to be technical. Given those constraints it

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread pagnucco
Akira - Thanks for the link to Santilli's patent application. A more readable pdf-format version is at - http://images3.freshpatents.com/pdf/US20120033775A1.pdf Santilli is making very specific claims of observed transmutations, and at measurable levels - e.g., Deuterium + Carbon -- Nitrogen. He

Re: [Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-18 Thread David Roberson
Of course I would expect a simulation using simple newton's gravity to yield the correct shape for a galaxy if given enough time. According to Wikipedia the sun completes one orbit around the galactic center in 200 million years. If the Milky Way is assumed to be 10 billion years of age, then

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread Axil Axil
Focus fusion among a few others has been at this for many years. They produce a plasmoid using a high current formed spark. They get a trillion neutrons from fusion per shot using deuterium. Focus fusion uses a light magnetic field and a low pressure gas. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at

Re: [Vo]:WLT Disproof

2012-10-18 Thread pagnucco
Widom-Srivastava-Larsen have just replied to the paper by Ciuchi, et al, critical of Widom-Larsen theory - Erroneous Wave Functions of Ciuchi et al for Collective Modes in Neutron Production on Metallic Hydride Cathodes A. Widom, Y. N. Srivastava, L. Larsen http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.5212

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread Axil Axil
See http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Jx78YcF-F8U/TBNnrA0L3WI/CN4/_tuQ1t6BT5w/s1600/neutron_yield_in_dpfs.gif On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Focus fusion among a few others has been at this for many years. They produce a plasmoid using a high current

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
There is a history surrounding the apparent production of iron from arcs between carbon rod electrodes. Extremely high voltages are not required. You can find some material from obvious web searches. Jeff On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: See

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread pagnucco
Axil, Is the Focus Fusion Society (URL: http://focusfusion.org/) what you're referring to? -- Lou Pagnucco See http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Jx78YcF-F8U/TBNnrA0L3WI/CN4/_tuQ1t6BT5w/s1600/neutron_yield_in_dpfs.gif On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-18 Thread pagnucco
Jeff, If the 1922 Irion-Wendt experimental results were correct, current density is probably more important. http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/1900s/1922Wendt-Irion.pdf -- Lou Pagnucco Jeff Berkowitz wrote: There is a history surrounding the apparent production of iron from arcs between