Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Robert Lynn
So if they funded the trip then why didn't they publish any results? After all they are a charity that is trying to promote and expand LENR research - and publishing good results would surely help this. I can only surmise that Defkalion prevented publication, which would contradict their earlier

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: So if they funded the trip then why didn't they publish any results? Because they are under NDAs. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Robert Lynn I can only surmise that Defkalion prevented publication, which would contradict their earlier statements about allowing independent testers to publish. Hiding poor results? Yes - I think they are hiding results, but poor in

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: The remainder of this paper is, or will be, or has been, depending on the reader's inertial frame, divided into three sections. That's wonderful. Still, I can't think of any reason for interstellar trade. If you can travel between stars you can also

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Popsci : If history is any guide, no such report would be issued. Rossi will reset the goalposts­the only thing he does with any consistency­and forestall his day of reckoning for another few months, and then another few months after that, until finally he disappears from the stage in a puff of

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi wrote: Leonardo Corp. will not be the same from the next week. I am in the USA, where an inportant event has been born from the last tests. Warm Regards, A.R. Oh boy. Here we go again. Despite his foibles, I really like Andrea Rossi. He annoys the heck out of me. He is infuriating!

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I am not sure what to call the software image you put into a replicator. Design? Blueprint? Genome? Template? Clarke described replicators in Profiles (1963). He called the instructions the matrix or memory. The ones we have now are only the beginning of the technology. Clarke

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: True, even Celani is not yet independently replicated, at least not on the record, but insiders think the first replication will be published soon. It looks like HUG might have experienced a LENR event.

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... Despite his foibles, I really like Andrea Rossi. He annoys the heck out of me. He is infuriating! And yet, somehow, you can't help but like him. He is such a character. A force of nature! Like the guy in the beer ad: he is the most interesting man in the world. If he succeeds

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I think we have been a little unfair to Mary. I have never minded her complaints. She does not lack for enthusiasm and focus. Well, you can get your fill here at her home port: http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/ where

RE: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
It's just a DETACHMENT event. Let's hope them to find something interresting after the ongoing calibration. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi 24 octobre 2012 20:27 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread ChemE Stewart
Good old dark matter/energy. You know it is working when your device malfunctions. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.netjavascript:; wrote: True, even Celani is not yet

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Eric Walker
I'm pretty happy at vortex. ;) Eric Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2012, at 11:30, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you can get your fill here at her home port: http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/ where she seems to be irritating her cohorts.

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Nothing motivates people more than the prospect of making billions of dollars. ...you'd be surprised how wrong that is. I have pointed out to people that the market is on the order of trillions, with an initial investment of only an hour or so to look at what

RE: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-24 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Hello Dave, I wish you the best in your new campaign tests with borax. Please, keep us up to date with discoveries and challenges you will have to face. Arnaud _ From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: mercredi 24 octobre 2012 02:54 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Defkalion has been burdened with poor management, too few qualified scientists . . . I do not know how many scientists they have. - and a flawed business plan. Dumber than dumb. Their business plan envisioned charging extremely high up-front

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:57:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: The remainder of this paper is, or will be, or has been, depending on the reader's inertial frame, divided into three sections. That's wonderful. Still, I can't think of

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: There's a nice little SciFi short story about this (sorry, can't remember title or author). The basic theme is that trade is in concepts rather than objects, since these are readily exchanged, and of value to many. Exactly. Concepts, and the templates for

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:09:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] It is a little difficult to imagine how we might pay for this kind of trade. How could this be a commercial transaction in any sense? Obviously the only system that would work is barter. IOW payment in kind. BTW

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:36:32 -0400: Hi Jed, [snip] That is because they don't believe you. You have the same problem as people writing Nigerian e-mail scam letters. - Jed I suspect you are correct, but how do I overcome this? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Well, Mr. Gibbs, while I appreciate your reporting on Defkalion, you continue to confuse and conflate two separate issues. 1. The reality of cold fusion as a physical phenomenon. 2. The existence of practical applications. The kind of information you request below is entirely focused, in

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Abd, Some people are focused on Truth, some on Value. Mark is interested in Value- he wants CF/LENR to be useful, to do something good- give energy to the people. Your premises being different there is difficult to arrive at compatible views. However if CF generates Value, than it is

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread David Roberson
Call me an optimist if you will, but I assume that we will be capable of traveling at effectively greater than light speed some day. I understand that current theories (SR) prohibit this, but they also prohibit LENR. Some ideas concerning worm holes, among others, are being kicked around that

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread David Roberson
I sure hope that biological warfare is outlawed by every species that inhabits the universe. Surely peace can be achieved at some point in our future. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 11:38 pm Subject: