Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
Thanks Abd for that clear explanation, As usual you are very strict with the required level of proof. I have gathered some data that I think valid, but please all here correct me if I'm wrong. As far as i know, NiH heat anomaly was known sine 89 with some ignored experience by Piantelli. in 93

RE: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread John Newman
I recall an old BBC serial, A for Andromeda I think it might have been called, must be nearly 60 years ago. A long radio signal from Andromeda gives DNA sequences. Which the scientists cannot resist growing, with nearly catastrophic results for humans. From: Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: BTW such a system will effectively have to wait at least until FTL communications are achieved. I'm with St. Albert on this. I doubt that FTL communication or travel is possible. Anyway, what I wrote is predicated on that assumption. Actual interstellar travel

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jeff: Up in the business sense. http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/rossi-leonardo-corp-will-not-be-the-same/ Scrolling down a bit is a new Oct 25 entry, allegedly from Rossi: This is what will happen next week: The E-CAT is going to be the US election Game Changer. Rossi will join

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Daniel Rocha
Maybe they should research how Europe traded with Asia before the telegraph. 2012/10/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com I've had it with those people at Alpha centauri! We sent them five miniseries last year, and they sent us only one in return. We're not broadcasting anything more in

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
I meant to say: Even the concept of barter is cloudy when there is *NO* physical contact between the parties. Or when it is delayed by many human generations. I am assuming the human lifetime is not extended much beyond 80 to 100 years. I suppose there would be some physical contact. Hundreds

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Oops! Just to be clear on this point, Rossi did NOT say that. He did NOT say he has a planned press conference with Obama. That was pure speculation. I should have read the statement more mroe clearly. My apologies. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they should research how Europe traded with Asia before the telegraph. Exactly! That was a similar situation in the 17th and early 18th century, where trade took a year or two for anything to happen. The European trade with Japan was awkward to

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Oops! Just to be clear on this point, Rossi did NOT say that. He did NOT say he has a planned press conference with Obama. That was pure speculation. I should have read the statement more mroe

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: ... So Rossi is an Objectivist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29 Hmmm. This is going to take a while for me to read up on. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Terry sez: ... So Rossi is an Objectivist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29 Hmmm. This is going to take a while for me to read up on. ;-) His specific reference:

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Well, Mr. Gibbs, while I appreciate your reporting on Defkalion, you continue to confuse and conflate two separate issues. 1. The reality of cold fusion as a physical phenomenon. 2. The existence of practical applications. Exactly. Reliably

[Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
I trust Rossi more than Obama as he appears to have achieved some measurable positive results in less than 4 years :) On Thursday, October 25, 2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Oops! Just to be clear on this point, Rossi did NOT say that. He did NOT say he has a planned press

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: As far as i know, NiH heat anomaly was known sine 89 with some ignored experience by Piantelli. in 93 I have been reading among the thousands of abstracts on CF, few results about NiH , yet like everybody of that time I took them as minors... It

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread James Bowery
An unequivocal acceptance of cold fusion by the establishment (say, GE comes out in full support of Rossi) next week would more likely inure to the benefit of Romney than Obama given the vicious role government has played in opposing cold fusion, Romney's statemet in support of cold fusion

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-25 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-25 17:05, Jed Rothwell wrote: 1. It is lot harder to accomplish than it sounds. I can summarize it in a single sentence, apply the Arata technique to nickel but that describes years of effort. This might sound like a naive question, but isn't the Arata technique documented? And if

[Vo]:Hypothetical 'quantum harmonic oscillator' not so hypothetical

2012-10-25 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
FYI: http://phys.org/news/2012-10-neutron-unprecedented-quantum-oscillations.html #nwlt NOTE that the quantum in this case is 50meV (small 'm'). -Mark Iverson - now to quote excerpts from the article -- Researchers at the Department of Energy's Oak

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
My own guess is that this comment will end up being another overwhelming promise followed by another underwhelming delivery. It just seems to be a pattern common to Mr. Rossi. I hope I'm wrong. Again, I'm trying to play the dispassionate commentator here. I have no position on whether he has

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they should research how Europe traded with Asia before the telegraph. Some of the trading occurred indirectly through intermediaries. Harry 2012/10/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com I've had it with

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-25 Thread Chuck Sites
Good Luck with the new experiments David. I think you will see some interesting effects. Regarding the sparks and light flashes, I ran across a paper that describes an spark effect, but it was seen in the 100-140Volt range. Horace Heffner describes it in his paper;

RE: [Vo]:Hypothetical 'quantum harmonic oscillator' not so hypothetical

2012-10-25 Thread Jones Beene
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint FYI: http://phys.org/news/2012-10-neutron-unprecedented-quantum-oscillations.html #nwlt NOTE that the quantum in this case is 50meV (small 'm'). Even so, if it were 50meV of actual gain per atom, which it isn't, then a mole of the nitrogen oscillations gives

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jeff: My own guess is that this comment will end up being another overwhelming promise followed by another underwhelming delivery. It just seems to be a pattern common to Mr. Rossi. I hope I'm wrong. That does seem to be Rossi's prior track record - to constantly titillate his audience.

RE: [Vo]:Hypothetical 'quantum harmonic oscillator' not so hypothetical

2012-10-25 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jones: Don't think its 50meV/atom, but the same atom excited to different energy levels. RE: of mtns and molehills. .and a butterfly's flapping in California causes a monsoon in India. From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:03 AM To:

[Vo]:University of Missouri Acquires Energetics’ LENR Resources

2012-10-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
University of Missouri Acquires Energetics’ LENR Resources http://news.newenergytimes.net/2012/10/24/university-of-missouri-acquires-energetics-lenr/ Oct. 24, 2012 – By Steven B. Krivit – New Jersey-based Energetics Technologies LLC and its founders appear to be out of the low-energy nuclear

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: This might sound like a naive question, but isn't the Arata technique documented? And if it isn't, why it isn't? First, Arata's technique is documented, but not well according to some people. He tends to keep secrets. Second, when I said

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:05 AM 10/25/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: That does seem to be Rossi's prior track record - to constantly titillate his audience. Many of his commercial hints have failed to materialize, or have fizzled (big US company etc ..) -- but most of his technical hints have

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-25 Thread David Roberson
Thanks Chuck, the experimentation has been going on now for a couple of days and I did notice unusual behavior that I was not expecting. I performed a small experiment using AC with new nickels that had not been undergoing electrolysis at any time and saw that they did not show any of the

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Alan: That does seem to be Rossi's prior track record - to constantly titillate his audience. Many of his commercial hints have failed to materialize, or have fizzled (big US company etc ..) -- but most of his technical hints have materialized in one form or another. Here's a perfect

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's now Autumn... and, oh, by the way, our water heater sprung a leak over the weekend. Time to replace the old monster. Be sure you check the water pressure regulator. I did not do that last time and new heater soon sprang

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... ...I agree with Alan Fletcher that Rossi does tend to come through on his technical hints. His track record is remarkably good. His flamboyant personality gets in the way and we fail to notice this. Rossi is what what Rossi does. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread Craig
On 10/25/2012 03:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yup. But I agree with Alan Fletcher that Rossi does tend to come through on his technical hints. His track record is remarkably good. His flamboyant personality gets in the way and we fail to notice this. He's also really good at sticking to a

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-25 Thread Jack Cole
Dear Dave, You wrote: Chuck, have you given consideration to some process that might treat the CuB2O3 or NiB2O3 differently so that the copper might be taken away from the nickel surface selectively? It might be possible to selectively erode the copper leaving NAE in large quantities. I think

Re: [Vo]:Quantum Energy Converter

2012-10-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Ron Kita's message of Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:17:48 -0400: Hi, [snip] Greetings Vortex-L, I don t think that I saw the QEC posted here before: http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3430 Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex IOW this is a form of diode, which as I have

Re: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-25 Thread Axil Axil
Reference: Self-organized atomic nanowires of noble metals on Ge(001): Atomic structure and electronic properties

Re: [Vo]:Mark Gibbs asks for recommended papers and experiments

2012-10-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:36 AM 10/21/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: I don't have the time to review the huge amount of literature you people have already looked at ... I'm still willing to do some leg-work on this (I'm collecting links, and will order Ed Storms' book) -- but

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started -- Sodium + Epsom Salts explosion

2012-10-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Another warning on electrolysis and stuff http://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol9.pdf p64 Lakshmanan During sodium metal dissolution in aqueous Epsom salts, it was accidentally discovered that a massive explosion occurs in 0.85 M Epsom solution on the completion of Na dissolution. ... However, at

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Seeing that we have this thread going : Joseph Fine October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 PM Andrea Rossi, You said you will soon provide information about the new 1 MW Hot Cat. I have not yet made a volume estimate of the Hot-Cat (1 MW). But I think the 1 MW Hot Cat will have 90 to 100 modules. Some

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started -- Sodium + Epsom Salts explosion

2012-10-25 Thread Chuck Sites
Nice reference Alan, Yes, I also encourage the basement experimentalist to be-careful with these experiments. The boranes (ie. B_x H_y) can be toxic, and even explosive. B2H4 is rocket fuel. Throw sodium in the mix, hydrogen and oxygen, Its like lighting a match. Chemically. I ran these

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-25 Thread Chuck Sites
Jack, that is just about right. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Dave, You wrote: Chuck, have you given consideration to some process that might treat the CuB2O3 or NiB2O3 differently so that the copper might be taken away from the nickel surface

[Vo]: Great Pyramid was a Hydrogen Resonator?

2012-10-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
Good 12 minute clip http://youtu.be/Lb7SLnzb-R8 Stewart

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-25 Thread David Roberson
That appears like a pretty good process for the nickel. Jack, I will follow your procedure after I complete a couple of experiments. I tried something interesting today that I plan to investigate further. I acted like a manual switch for a couple of nickels where I reversed the DC current

RE: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-25 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Dave, Sorry if I missed it, but are you using tap water, or distilled/deionized water? -mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:57 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started That appears like a pretty good process