Just to correct Lomax's lies from actual experience.
I raise sows in my farm. When the piglets grow up to become gilts (teenage
female pigs that are virgins are called gilts.), they exhibit the equivalent
of what we would call menstrual cycle. They show their first estrus. If
you mate a
Dear Jojo,
Even in my weirdest dreams I have not imagined
that one day I will read about the sexual reproductive life of Sus scrofa
domestica on Vortex a site dedicated to new energy.
Pigs have not much to do with Vortex see the
first proverb here:
I disagree with this! [snip] If it becomes red shifted by definition it has
less energy. Since
the photon looses energy as it travels through the region from the
edge of the black hole toward our observation point, that energy
must be stored within this space.[/snip]
Equivalent velocity
Hasn't Prof. Graneau identified arc explosions in water as overunity? That a
turbine should be engineered to take advantage of the effect as free energy?
Papp did mention water vapor in his engine patent, if I recall correctly.
The Russians did a lot of work on the Electrohydraulic effect
Axil,
I like a lot of your theory but think you are drawing too
quickly your initial conclusion that no heat means no atomic hydrogen is being
produced ..and even here we may be getting into syntax since atomic hydrogen
once formed wants to immediately recombine.. and here is
At 02:43 AM 12/28/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
OK Lomax, let's agree to disagree.
No, because Jojo lies about what we supposedly disagree about. In
this agree to disagree post, he again lies, after having been
corrected many times, about what I say. I haven't said what he
opposes to his positino.
I do not think that the photon goes at a speed less than light speed for any
observer. From a far off observer it just appears to be red shifted from its
beginning point. I guess you might say that from our far off point of view, it
never had any extra energy in the first place because we
The end of the particle wave closest to the horizon will be blue shifted,
the opposite end is redshifted with all of the energy sucked out of it.
Still traveling at the speed of light
On Thursday, December 27, 2012, David Roberson wrote:
It is difficult to grasp what you are saying in regard
As a matter of fact my friend, the practice of Abraham, Jacob, David,
Solomon and other old testament Jews are in fact Abhorrent and retrograde.
And you will never hear a Christian justifying these acts. Jesus corrected
these retrograde acts. In the New Testament, you will never hear of a
I agree with the plasmoid description, I believe it is the same as
the entropic dark matter particle I have arrived at. These plasmoids are
also found in comet tails and the Earth's magnetotail. This stuff is
in all energy levels and very energetic in contact with ordinary matter and
shoot out a
Peter, I consider this an insult. To the best of my recollection this is your
4th insult to me. In all that time, I have not retaliated.
Please refrain from this behavior; unless you want me to retaliate.
And please, do not use you response to me as an excuse to promote your site
again.
2 questions.
First' Which statement specifically do you think I am just making up?
Second, Are you serious in wanting to know, or are you just intending to
insult me?
If you are serious, I will answer you and explain to you where I get these.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From:
If you don't want to read it, then do not mouth off and pretend to be a
expert in this subject matter. You know what they say; ...the height of
ignorance.
At least I have read it, albeit a long time ago.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
Excellent analysis of my motives there Lomax.
Hmmm, could it be? might it be possible? that I just don't want people to be
deceived by your propaganda - that's why I am responding so vigorously to
your lies.
KISS, my friend. Keep It Simple Stupid!
Jojo
- Original Message -
Pig breeding, Birthers, attacks on Islam, attacks on each other ... what is
the matter with you people?
Jojo throws out blatant nonsense that isn't intended to achieve anything
constructive and that only the most generous would treat as reasonable
discussion and everyone rises to the bait. Abd,
Unfortunately I sense lots of bad mojo behind many of the posts in this
exchange
On Friday, December 28, 2012, Mark Gibbs wrote:
Pig breeding, Birthers, attacks on Islam, attacks on each other ... what
is the matter with you people?
Jojo throws out blatant nonsense that isn't intended to
Mark, how far back have you followed this exchange. Were you here 6 months
ago? 1 year ago?
Before you even start to insult me, please please please study up on the
history of this.
Abd responds politely Come on, either be objective or just go ahead and
start insulting. Abd started
Mark, has it occured to you or to Peter or to others that it is precisely these
kinds of biased hurtful insults that cause me to lash out at you, Peter and
Lomax.
I am capable of discussing rationally with civility as many in this list can
attest. But I will not suffer insults like this.
I have set this thread to auto-delete, but I noticed this --
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
It's one thing to have an off-topic discussion but quite another when a
list is hijacked by little else besides off-topic posts.
Really, the Vortex list-Mom needs to manage this list a whole lot
Of course there's a lot of bad mojo. How would you feel if you are insulted at
every turn? by people ignorant of the real situation. First Lomax, then SVJ,
then Rocha, then Craig, then Walker then Jouni then Peter and now Mark. All
openning their comments with insults. ( I have not
Does anyone know how to get William Beaty to manage the conduct on this
list?
If you look at the recent messages on this list (
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/maillist.html) the ration
of science to squabbling is ridiculous and mots of the traffic comes from
just a few people
The following brief exchange was extracted from a recent post, subject
thread: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA
Jojo Jaro wrote:
Your [Lomax's] opinion has certainly been noted by Bill. Quite obviously,
I'm still here cause Bill saw nothing that I have done to deserve
banning.
How about some Klonopin or other treatments for OCD? That's what I'm seeing
here ( yes, from my own experience). I can't imagine anything more pointless
than arguments about religious dogma.
Time would be better spent discovering/developing free energy - by which means
the entire Middle East
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Perhaps Mr.
Blanton could stand in as one of the moderators, since Terry already has
extensive prior experience moderating large groups!
You honor me, sir.
I recently volunteered in an email
I second the nomination.
I would think, though, that leaving this group as is, and more of a forced
transfer of off topic replies to the new, off topic, group (which we
already have, vortex b), and constant offenders have their posts put on a
per approval basis.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:03 PM,
Daniele Passerini says below the subject of LENR was mentioned again
in the Italian parliament last week.
Harry
Italian:
http://22passi.blogspot.ca/2012/12/nuova-interpellanza-parlamentare-pro.html
google translation:
Thursday, December 27, 2012New parliamentary interpellation pro LENR
On 21
At 12:12 AM 12/28/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Weapons grade balonium.
Anyone who cares can read this entire post and see that Jojo has
lied, and is continuing to lie, about what is actually in this post.
Jojo attempts, below, to avoid this by introducing new or separate
arguments. They are
I don't think he is lying. If someone sees a flying unicorn, even if it is
not there, is that person lying? He is just living in a hallucination.
2012/12/28 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
Anyone who cares can read this entire post and see that Jojo has lied,
and is continuing to
At 09:55 AM 12/28/2012, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Axil,
etc.
This is Vortex, and you guys are certainly free to speculate at the
drop of a hat or a popper.
However, I'm also free to note that trying to figure out what is
going on with Russ's popper, when we have just about zero information
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Does anyone know how to get William Beaty to manage the conduct on this
list?
He is probably busy with the holiday season stuff. He'll get around to
responding by and by.
Frankly, I don't understand why people are worked up about this. Maybe it
is just me
At 11:04 AM 12/28/2012, David Roberson wrote:
I do not think that the photon goes at a speed less than light speed
for any observer. From a far off observer it just appears to be red
shifted from its beginning point. I guess you might say that from
our far off point of view, it never had any
The only problem with filters is that they are a blunt tool so when someone
you're filtering out is in a thread that you're interested in you can miss
out on something useful. Sure, you might assume that there's really not
much you'll miss by using filtering but it's not really an optimal
Original subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age
The original subject was off-topic. List management is not, so I've
created a new header, please keep discussion here on the subject of the header.
At 02:31 PM 12/28/2012, Mark Gibbs wrote:
If Beaty isn't willing
You gotta love those Italians!
Italian government officials and MPs have made pro-cold fusion statements
in the past, going back many years.
When the history of cold fusion is written, Italy's government and
scientists will get a lot of credit.
- Jed
At 03:05 PM 12/28/2012, leaking pen wrote:
I second the nomination.
I would think, though, that leaving this group as is, and more of a
forced transfer of off topic replies to the new, off topic, group
(which we already have, vortex b), and constant offenders have their
posts put on a per
Genetics experts stopped calling the non-coding regions 'junk' some time
ago. They might say something like 'what used to be called junk
DNA'. I have been wondering whether certain aspects of the information
that defines an organism is not contained in the DNA, but instead
certain specific
To what do you attribute Italy's relatively-functional immune system?
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
You gotta love those Italians!
Italian government officials and MPs have made pro-cold fusion statements
in the past, going back many years.
When
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
To what do you attribute Italy's relatively-functional immune system?
A laid-back attitude. I mean it. They don't take themselves as seriously as
we do. They know their institutions are far from perfect.
The U.S. is burdened by too much self-respect. We
Your opinion is most valuable. What do you recommend in terms of
experimental detail?
I posted previously that an accelerometer installed on the piston would
provide the finest grained experimental detail.
A graphic profile of the piston’s movement plotted against time could be
converted to
That's one way to view it. An alternative that isn't necessarily exclusive:
I recall holding a public debate at the Ruben H. Fleet Science Center in
San Diego during the 1980s -- before the collapse of the Soviet Union --
regarding NASA's role in launch services vs the fledgling private launch
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Heat output can be neglected.
I strongly disagree.
We hear a lot about how the temperature doesn't rise in any degree
approaching what one would expect from the joule input but one must recall
that this is one of the most
I think a lot of the reasoning about photons, above, is wrong. The red
shift has nothing to do with gravity, only the relative velocity of the
photon source relative to the observer. If an event just outside the event
horizon of a black hole emits a photon, an observer at rest relative to the
At 07:34 PM 12/28/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
Your opinion is most valuable. What do you recommend in terms of
experimental detail?
I posted previously that an accelerometer installed on the piston
would provide the finest grained experimental detail.
Yes. I think I said the same. But if we
At 07:48 PM 12/28/2012, James Bowery wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Axil Axil
mailto:janap...@gmail.comjanap...@gmail.com wrote:
Heat output can be neglected.
I strongly disagree.
We hear a lot about how the temperature doesn't rise in any degree
approaching what one would expect
On Dec 28, 2012, at 20:25, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Whether there is any need to look for heat, then, is a subsidiary question.
Is there excess energy, expressed in piston motion?
This makes sense. Look for first order effects, then zero in on second order
effects if
At 08:11 PM 12/28/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
I think a lot of the reasoning about photons, above, is wrong. The
red shift has nothing to do with gravity, only the relative velocity
of the photon source relative to the observer.
Eek. Apparently not.
If an event just outside the event
Another factor to consider is the influence of the english language
publications
Nature and Scientific American. They have less infleunce non-english
speaking communities
so their dim views on LENR carry less weight in non-english speaking
nations like Italy.
Harry
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 7:46
Yes, please Jed, why don't you start an alternative list. Isn't that what I've
been calling for all along. That way, you can flood it with off-topic posts
and make it into a social club. Leave the science in Vortex-L. Play in your
own list.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From:
It seems, OT-ing has become both epidemic and
endemic for Vortex. This is caused probably by
a relatively dead/slack season in/for core LENR.
This is also relatively OT
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