Re: [Vo]:Detecting LENR Neutrino... what power needed ?

2013-06-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
Ok, no so simple, since energy is important for detectors. They are sensible only to some energy values If we detect none, it may just be because they are too much or too few energetic. However if some neutrino are detected that can eliminate many scenarios. Maybe a bit complicated to make a

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:53 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: My apologies if any other Vorts took offense to my comment about trolls… Seasoned members know your intent. Shinny up to the Dime Box bar and I'll buy a round for the house.

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
No, I took it as a compliment and it really is a good thread..just a simple misunderstanding on Kevin's part, so easy to mix threads here lately as they seem to be converging that confusion is to be expected :_) Fran -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]

RE: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Guys, I think the redundant ground states make a big difference to temperature when gas loads heavily into these confined regions, the clusters that form in these cavities exist in a region where longer vacuum wavelengths are excluded. This is exactly opposite to gas atoms with near luminal

RE: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Terry's buyin' a round, wooo whooo!!! -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:35 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:53 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint

[Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-13 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, The presentations shown during the June 3 LENR meeting at the European Parliament in Brussels can now be downloaded, in pdf format, from the ENEA website through the following URL:

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netmailto:zeropo...@charter.net wrote: This assumes that the NAE are all less than a few atom diameters in size... I reject that. Why couldn't they be 10s or 100s of atoms across? In addition, there MUST be a physical/size

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread David Roberson
I realize now that it is not proper to separate the various forms of energy that an atom can harbor into categories when figuring temperature. My thoughts have been directed toward divide and conquer where motion was the kinetic portion and elevated orbitals the stored part of the whole atom

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Axil Axil
“the BECs around it don't go away when 24 MeV are released into the world.” The BEC does go away, because any energy transfer destroys coherence. But the BEC comes back fast. Think of the BEC as a flickering candle, and not a light bulb. Just some selected parts of the BEC go away for a short

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-13 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:31:34 AM Hello group, The presentations shown during the June 3 LENR meeting at the European Parliament in Brussels can now be downloaded, in pdf format, from the ENEA website through the following URL:

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Axil Axil
How does this theory select nickel with and even number of protons and an even number of neutrons as the feedstock for LENR? On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Guys, I think the redundant ground states make a big difference to

Re: [Vo]:Anapole Dark Matter, Chiu Man Ho and Robert J. Scherrer, Vanderbilt University 2013.04.26: Rich Murray 2013.06.12

2013-06-13 Thread Axil Axil
*What is recent theoretical thinking about LENR associating the LENR reaction with magnetic monopoles could more likely be attributed to anopole producing circular charge currents.* * * *If the internal working of the nucleus is somehow sensitive to anaopole magnetic fields, then anapole based

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, It doesn't! it merely provides the environment where these other theories can exist. It provides a potential energy source that doesn't exist at the macro scale. In this relativistic interpretation of Casimir effect local gas atoms remain unaware of their inertial frame

[Vo]:Anapole active radiation spike

2013-06-13 Thread Axil Axil
*Reference:* * * *http://www.uf.narod.ru/public/recom_s06e.pdf* * * On the possible magnetic mechanism of shortening the runaway of RBMK-1000 reactor at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant * * I submit this paper as supportive of the theory that the anapole magnetic field is reactive toward the

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-13 Thread James Bowery
I'm surprised there is no video equivalent of CSPAN for this. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:31:34 AM Hello group, The presentations shown during the June 3 LENR

Re: [Vo]:Anapole active radiation spike

2013-06-13 Thread Axil Axil
There seems to be a logical contradiction in the WL theory that LENR is a weak force based reaction. Then this WL theory depends of neutron production to get through the neutron barrier. Why not get through the barrier directly through EMF coulomb barrier penetration. LENR leaves the nuclear ash

[Vo]:Light ring plasmoids

2013-06-13 Thread Axil Axil
Reference: http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121025/srep00771/full/srep00771.html#supplementary-information *Spontaneous knotting of self-trapped waves* http://phys.org/news/2012-10-beautiful-physics-tying.html *Beautiful physics: Tying knots in light* These references show how light rings

Re: [Vo]:Light ring plasmoids

2013-06-13 Thread ChemE Stewart
This is helping to confirm string theory. They kink and knot and break off just like what is happening in our jet streams with vacuum strings and severe weather. On Thursday, June 13, 2013, Axil Axil wrote: Reference:

[Vo]:Anapole active radiation spike

2013-06-13 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree with this paper and believe we are going to find that those dark/vacuum energy magnetic fields also triggered the seismic anamoly before Chernobyl that was dismissed as have been detected before many other earthquakes. We are enveloped in a quantum field whose energy levels change with

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2013-06-13 Thread William E. Milliken
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[Vo]:Lattice Energy on Russian laser production of Tritium

2013-06-13 Thread pagnucco
Lattice Energy has just posted an analysis of the Russian experiment showing laser induced neutron-free synthesis and decay of Tritium in nanoparticle colloids suspended in D2O Lattice Energy LLC - June 13 2013 New Russian Experiments Further Confirm Widom-Larsen Theory of LENRS

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-13 Thread Alan Fletcher
Thanks! McKubre's is interesting -- sponsored by DARPA and DTRA (http://www.dtra.mil/ !!??) Does anyone have any information on DARPA's relationship to SRI/McKubre. Is it general support, or specifically for CF, and the the ENEA/NRL agreement? (If you can tell me, of course.)

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy on Russian laser production of Tritium -an exerpt

2013-06-13 Thread David L Babcock
*I found this nugget in a huge haystack of words mostly talking up WL. Gave up less than half way through, there is much more more, this is only one of the cited. (Could not get the text below bigger -some artifact of pdf?) Abstract: A method is disclosed to fabricate a Palladium cathode

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy on Russian laser production of Tritium

2013-06-13 Thread Axil Axil
This experiment does not support WL This experiment is another A.V. Simakin type experiment. This experiment supports the Nanoplasmonic theory of LENR asserting the creation of dynamic NAEs are formed by the interactions of nanoparticles, specifically within the “hot spots” between

[Vo]:FYI: vacuum insulation...

2013-06-13 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
For all the experimentalists out there, here is a really neat material/product/company: http://www.conceptgroupinc.com/howitworks.html Even an extraordinarily thin Insulon shaped-vacuum layer is fully effective at stopping the conduction of thermal energy. We have already produced barriers

RE: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jack Cole This produced apparent (but false) excess heating of up to 50% in several of my experiments. Is this analysis sensible? Not so sure that this analysis is precise - but apparent gain could be due to iron as a consumable and must be eliminated. If iron is leaching, then

RE: [Vo]:Lattice Energy on Russian laser production of Tritium

2013-06-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: Axil Axil This experiment does not support WL This experiment is another A.V. Simakin type experiment. This experiment supports the Nanoplasmonic theory of LENR asserting the creation of dynamic NAEs are formed by the interactions of nanoparticles, specifically within the

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-13 Thread Jack Cole
Thanks Jones. I just ordered one of those anodes. I am also going to cross check with a graphite anode. I was using standard nickels and a thoriated tungsten rod all plated with an extra layer of nickel as a cathode. I also added a small amount of nickel sulfate to the electrolyte after

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:53 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: My apologies if any other Vorts took offense to my comment about trolls… Seasoned members know your intent. Shinny up to the Dime Box bar

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: http://www.enea.it/it/Ufficio-Bruxelles/news/new-advancements-on-the-fleischmann-pons-effect-paving-the-way-for-a-potential-new-clean-renewable-energy-source Thanks! McKubre's is interesting -- sponsored by DARPA and DTRA (

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-13 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: - McKubre and coworkers saw excess heat and *tritium* production (2-5E15 atoms) in palladium black and LiOD. In that experiment there was no 4He, and 3He was commensurate with tritium decay (i.e., no 3He from the primary reaction). Note also that tritium is a health