[Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

2014-04-02 Thread Alan Fletcher
Andrea Rossi April 2nd, 2014 at 6:15 AM TO THE READERS OF THE JoNP: Today has been presented the book of the scientific journalist Mats Lewan ” An Impossible Invention”: it is professional, honest and sincere as his Author. For those interested, the contact is animpossibleinvention.com

[Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
David French wrote this article, and sent me the link: http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/ - Jed

[Vo]:Holy Grail identified

2014-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
It's is a day post April fools, but... oops... it was posted yesterday - yet that will not stop true believers... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/holy-grail-spanish-museum_n_5072155 .html coincidentally and speaking of true believers - you can get Lewan's new book on Rossi for Kindle

Re: [Vo]:Holy Grail identified

2014-04-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It's is a day post April fools, but... oops... it was posted yesterday - yet that will not stop true believers... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/holy-grail-spanish-museum_n_5072155 .html We discussed that cup

RE: [Vo]:Holy Grail identified

2014-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton We discussed that cup in the PoS group years ago. As the knight told that other Jones, He chose poorly. Of course the Grail story can get plenty of News coverage on one particular day (Apr 1) every year, but the ironic thing to me was Lewan's

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at most. 2014-04-02 11:19 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: David French wrote this article, and sent me the link: http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/ - Jed --

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Axil Axil
Why do you say that? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at most. 2014-04-02 11:19 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Susanna Gipp
Whatcha talkin bout Daniel!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k 2014-04-02 20:05 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: Why do you say that? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Bob Cook
I thought that the original application was vague on purpose. It gave Rossi more time to develop the reactor while the PO was considering it. It took about 4 years in this regard. Now he has a reasonable amount of time to improve the application as suggested by PO. Further it was my

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
The text says: As is usual with a first initiative by a US Patent Office Examiner, this Office Action rejects the application. Rossi now has three months from March 26, 2014, extendable upon fee payments up to six months, to file a Response. Whatever Rossi could do to have a patent, he should do

[Vo]:The Altaeros Buoyant Airborne Turbine (BAT)

2014-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
A wind turbine in a giant balloon. The BAT is a batty idea, but ya' gotta love it. See: http://www.altaerosenergies.com/

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
He could achieve the same by doing nothing since this patent, as it is, doesn't protect anything. Rossi will be, at least, a victim of himself. 2014-04-02 15:46 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com: I thought that the original application was vague on purpose. It gave Rossi more time

RE: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
From: Susanna Gipp Whatcha talkin bout Daniel! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k The Rossi opera - soapy or riveting, will not end until the technology is shown to be a complete bust, since it does not exist out there alone. There is a conforming history - even if the present

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Lennart Thornros
I like Jones' analysis. It covers most of it. I further think that if Rossi does not have a working LENR at least he believes he has one as there is no way he has completely fooled all investors involved just sweet talking. I understand he has made less smart business in the field of garbage and

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
But they did have patents! But Rossi doesn't have anything. His ecat secret will be cracked within days or just a few weeks, given the importance of the invention, the greatest since the domestication of wheat and rice So, he doesn't have anything. He's naked, he won't profit without a patent.

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Well said. You have more breath than I. I have always concluded he would depend upon trade secrets to give him an edge on the rush to come. I agree that Industrial Heat sees that advantage and their involvement with China promises fewer headaches from big oil and other governmental

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Terry Blanton
WD40 never filed a patent so that no one would know their secret ingredients.

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: WD40 never filed a patent so that no one would know their secret ingredients. So, it is a trade secret. That works for a product with a limited market. If WD40 were worth hundreds of billions, other companies would do a chemical analysis of it, and then

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Jed, I think it works with a trade secret. One just need to be ahead of the pack to win. As a matter of fact a patent might be a disadvantage as you need to give away some trade secrets. Many times it is possible to find ways around the patent and perhaps have an advantage by not having a

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Bob Cook
It seems that Rossi changed his mind about how to commercialize his reactor about 2-3 years ago. First it was to come out for home heating and sold by a Home Depot like company. That soon changed to licensed use in an industrial setting with trained operators. It seems that is where the

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Terry Blanton
Nothing stops China. They took microscopic slices of the Intel 8080 microprocessor and reconstructed the masks required to back engineer the chip. Cheap knock offs were shipping within a year of the introduction of the chip.

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Wasn't it SU? 2014-04-02 22:49 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com: Nothing stops China. They took microscopic slices of the Intel 8080 microprocessor and reconstructed the masks required to back engineer the chip. Cheap knock offs were shipping within a year of the introduction of

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: But they did have patents! But Rossi doesn't have anything. His ecat secret will be cracked within days or just a few weeks, given the importance of the invention, the greatest since the domestication of wheat and rice

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
The fundamental misstep of Rossi was this: The specification shall contain a written description of the invention, and of the manner and process of making and using it, in such full, clear, concise, and exact terms as to enable any person skilled in the art to which it pertains, or with which it

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The Rossi opera – soapy or riveting, will not end until the technology is shown to be a complete bust, since it does not exist out there alone. Both riveting and weighed down with some longueurs. When the news comes in,

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
If the e-Cat pans out - not just a soap opera, but a fundamental re-evaluation of the how we should investigate and perceive physical reality itself. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
I was not thinking deeply. Just evaluating Rossi's behavior. 2014-04-03 0:15 GMT-03:00 Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com: If the e-Cat pans out - not just a soap opera, but a fundamental re-evaluation of the how we should investigate and perceive physical reality itself. -- Daniel