http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140915153951.htm ..
The thought that occurs to me from the perspective of my ZPE
pet theories is if the reconfigured metal blobs can do work in excess of the
pwr supplied by the +-1v . that is the submerged metal blob in its naturals
[http://www.byzipp.com/gamma.png]
Sorry in advance, this is a work in progress initiated by a desire to offer a
more succinct argument regarding the relativistic theory of Casimir effect.
The gist of the concept is that mainstream has convinced the world of how
difficult it is to reach
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
I'd love to know if the decision to place the stand-by generators in the
basement was a result of budget restraints or a conscious engineering
decision.
I wouldn't know how that came about. But these reactors are lavishly funded
and they usually go
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:
After the accident, a memo surfaced saying, we should worry about the
possibility of a large tsunami. In other words, someone foresaw the
problem. An expert interviewed on NHK talked about this. He said: You will
Wow. This is a stunner.
I'm not on CMNS because of their policy of insularity - so I cannot verify
that the following message actually appeared, but it seems to be further
devastation to the widely held notion that helium and excess heat can be
well-correlated in LENR, even though it comes from
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
We cannot be paralyzed into inaction by fear
Should we be pushed into action by greed masquerading as the need for
economic growth?
People need electricity. In the 1970s it was reasonable to think that
nuclear power was a clean, safe alternative
Jones -- Posting private correspondences is a quasi-childish thing to do,
something Krivit specializes in. You're not blowing the lid off some
amazing story. I'm pretty sure that's also how Krivit rationalized every
distasteful decision he's made.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Jones Beene
Jed--
I agree looking for a scapegoat is not warranted. However looking for design
requirement inadequacy is a necessary and desirable function to understand the
DETAILS of the mistake in the design procedure and the corrective action
necessary. Many times the expediency of the construction
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
It is almost unbelievable that a few regular posters on CMNS would say
that Miles work is proof of a good correlation, when it actually appears to
show that all - 100% - of the helium measured could easily have diffused
into system from the outside.
Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
Jones -- Posting private correspondences is a quasi-childish thing to do,
something Krivit specializes in. You're not blowing the lid off some
amazing story.
Well I do not see anything wrong with posting that. It does not seem
private to me. But as I said,
Harry--
I would conclude the answer to your question is an loud, NO.
However the fear of no good technical understanding nor honest technical
management SHOULD PARALYZE US into no action.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: H Veeder
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday,
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
I suspect that the optional location of secure generators and supplies of
fuel were found to be too costly by the Nuclear Village decision makers in
Japan.
It would not have cost anything to construct the fuel tanks on the landward
side of the reactor
I agree with you Jed. There are always a large number of unforeseen
consequences associated with most complex decisions. The best that we can do
is to anticipate the most likely ones and that appears to be what these guys
did.
Perhaps engineers should go back and reconsider their previous
To correct some voice input errors:
Helium alone cannot leak IN without argon.
I mean the atmospheric He to Ar ratio is fixed.
I gave him links to my paper and to my sources -- WHICH say the same thing
. . .
I did not make this stiff up, as Dave Barry used to say.
- Jed
http://www.xprize.org/terms-and-conditions
Which term specifically? Wall of text..
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings Vortex,
I am not sure if anybody talked about the terms and conditions
that is located at the ...very bottom of the
This is of no small interest to me as I'm currently holding off on using up
one of my more influential contacts on Mills/BLP pending the resolution, in
my mind, of the He4/heat correlation issue relative to Mills. The only
person I know of who has put forth an explanation for how hydrino
The quicker the smokers collapse and clean grids and clean distributed power
sources are established, the better the world will be. Smoking energy has had
its fling in civilization and now its time to move on. Let it compete on an
equal footing with other energy sources. Coal and oil and gas
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps engineers should go back and reconsider their previous decisions
in light of the serious consequences pertaining to nuclear meltdowns. It
may be determined that the risk exceeds the benefits of using nuclear power.
They are doing that. I
The second person could be Randy Mills himself- see what he has told on my
blog.
Peter
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:00 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
This is of no small interest to me as I'm currently holding off on using
up one of my more influential contacts on Mills/BLP pending
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.xprize.org/terms-and-conditions
Which term specifically? Wall of text..
A lot of it all caps, no less:
WE SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR INCIDENTAL, PUNITIVE, EXEMPLARY, INDIRECT
OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, LOST PROFITS OR FOR ANY
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
The second person could be Randy Mills himself- see what he has told on my
blog.
What second person? What do you mean?
- Jed
As I recall, SPAWARS (Naval Research) per Mosier-Boss etal., had good
justification for He ash in the Pd-D system. They were close to George Miley I
believe.
The following links are pertinent to SPAWAR effort:
http://coldfusioninformation.com/organisations/spawar/
Jed
I answered to James, his hope is in Robin van Spaandonk.
to link hydrinos with He.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
The second person could be Randy Mills himself- see what he has told on my
blog.
What
Hmm: copy and paste of terms and conditions:
*What We Do With Your Content*. By posting Your Content, you are telling us
that it is exclusively and truly yours, you are providing it gratuitously
and without restriction, and that you agree to grant us a non-exclusive,
transferable,
From: Jed Rothwell
Helium alone cannot leak IN without argon.
Complete nonsense !
Helium has an enormous diffusion rate through Pyrex glass. Argon has almost
none. Check the MIT site if you want a source.
Even if Argon could diffuse in, which it cannot – Grahams Law would mean the
According to Google, there is only one hit for helium and mills on the
egoout blog:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2013_11_01_archive.html
and it does not contain any such theory.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed
I answered to James, his hope
the absence of theory means Randy thinks NO connection.
To be discussed with him.
Peter
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:07 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
According to Google, there is only one hit for helium and mills on the
egoout blog:
You are confusing me. First you say that Mills, on your blog, was a person
other than Robin van Spaandonk to offer a theory explaining He ash in
amounts that match excess heat that is consistent with hydrino production
and then you _appear_ (poor grammar so hard tell) to say that Mills has no
No sorry I have only told that you can ask Mills. Not more not less. But he
is against any connection of hydrinos with CF, LENR. Sorry for the
confusion.
Peter
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:15 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
You are confusing me. First you say that Mills, on your blog,
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Helium alone cannot leak IN without argon.
Complete nonsense !
Helium has an enormous diffusion rate through Pyrex glass. Argon has
almost none. Check the MIT site if you want a source.
First, he was not using Pyrex glass; he used steel
I think that's just for comments you make on their blog postings.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm: copy and paste of terms and conditions:
*What We Do With Your Content*. By posting Your Content, you are telling
us that it is exclusively and
I will save anyone the trouble of asking Mills.
He absolutely and unequivocally says that there is no helium formation as a
result of the hydrino reaction.
Robin and others have tried to plow a pathway between LENR and BLP with the
suggestion that hydrinos could facilitate the fusion
I am excruciatingly aware that Mills denies not only that there is no
connection between hydrinos and He ash in amounts consistent with excess
heat -- but that he denies that such He ash even exists. In the absence of
another explanatory theory, such as Robin van Spaandonk's, either one of
those
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The bottom line - even if f/H could facilitate fusion
Notation question:
Does f/H mean fractional Rydberg states of hydrogen?
From: Jed Rothwell
*Helium alone cannot leak IN without argon.
Complete nonsense !
Helium has an enormous diffusion rate through Pyrex glass.
Argon has almost none. Check the MIT site if you want a source.
* First, he
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
For the collection flasks he could have used anything. It was too late.
Helium diffuses into the electrolysis cell itself during the operation.
Yes, some does come in. This amount can be measured in a null experiment.
It is the background amount. As it
Jones--
I think you are correct about the differences between He and Argon diffusion
rates. I think the diameter of the diffusing entity in question is also
important. The bigger the diameter the slower the diffusion, if it is
possible at all in any given medium. The temperature of the
I’m sorry but that is not what Miles seems to be saying now. You are putting
words in his mouth. In any event, the rate measured is incredibly low – well
below any confidence level and well below atmospheric levels - so it is of
negligible value. It is milliwatt level, in a world begging for
Jones, You are making specious arguments that are below the quality level
of your posts.
Yes, you are correct and Jed is correct in the arguments that the diffusion
of He and Argon in Miles' experiments are essentially constants - note the
(s)! When the amount on the inside and outside are far
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I’m sorry but that is not what Miles seems to be saying now.
That's what he told me. I consulted with him at length when I wrote the
paper about him. He I went over it many times.
You are putting words in his mouth. In any event, the rate measured is
From: Bob Higgins
* Your attempt to dismiss the Claytor tritium results as being high voltage
is again specious. The voltages being used are not capable of producing hot
fusion.
His voltage is capable, and the is no “dismissal,” and the “high” is relative
to electrolysis. Guess
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:19:00 +0300:
Hi,
[snip]
No sorry I have only told that you can ask Mills. Not more not less. But he
is against any connection of hydrinos with CF, LENR. Sorry for the
confusion.
Peter
Randy has talked to hot fusioneers, and as a
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Randy has talked to hot fusioneers, and as a consequence believes that
fusion is
very dangerous. Consequently he wants nothing to do with it.
This is a peculiar attitude. Widespread, but peculiar. His reaction might
be cold fusion. It is what it is. It makes no
Jones--
I remember that the SPAWAR experiments indicated He formed with the correct
24... Mev energy of a D-D fusion reaction. The evidence was in the CR-39
detectors that they used. They also saw tritium and its characteristic path in
the Cr-39 detectors. Check out the report of SPAWAR
That is precisely my point Bob. They DID SEE TRITIUM so they did get fusion.
When DD fuses to He, on occasion you should see the strong photon even if there
is another mechanism which can thermalize the energy most of the time in ways
which are not fatal to the experimenter. And you should
Jones,
Claytor's results are not hot fusion because: 1) it only works with certain
wire cathodes - the cathode condensed matter must be present and in the
right form or there will be no tritium, and 2) the neutron rate he produces
is very low (4E-9 of tritium) - not characteristic of hot fusion.
Things may be more complicated than are imaged here. The helium ash produce
might not be the end product of the completed reaction. The helium might be
a transient step in a long string of ascending fusion reactions that start
with the proton/proton(PP) initial reaction and end with boron or
In reply to James Bowery's message of Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:00:58 -0500:
Hi James,
I wouldn't hunt too hard if I were you. I haven't said much more on this
particular issue in the past than I said recently.
I would be happy to answer any particular questions you might have.
[snip]
This is of no
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:16:38 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Randy has talked to hot fusioneers, and as a consequence believes that
fusion is
very dangerous. Consequently he wants nothing to do with it.
This is a peculiar attitude. Widespread,
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:22:31 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
*That means interactions with other parts of the nucleus are possible, but
not with other atoms*
I took this to mean that cluster fusion could not happen because of the
speed of light.
Cluster fusion could happen if
This is making my theory of electron absorption by multi particle spin
coupling look sane.
From: Bob Higgins
* Claytor's results are not hot fusion because: 1) it only works with
certain wire cathodes - the cathode condensed matter must be present and in
the right form or there will be no tritium, and 2) the neutron rate he
produces is very low (4E-9 of tritium)
Sorry, I was too brief. I was only speaking about the decision to not
redesign or relocate the plant, so I agree with Bob
I suspect somebody of influence on the business end read the sunami memo
and buried it because he immediately realised there would be costly
implications and time delays for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse
Wave function collapse
In quantum mechanics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics, *wave
function collapse* is the phenomenon in which a wave function
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function—initially in a superposition
Decoherence of the combined wave function makes the tunneling event and the
release of binding energy.
should read
Decoherence of the combined wave function *marks* the tunneling event and
the release of binding energy.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:
In other words excess heat produces significantly more than the background
from diffusion, but much less than the atmospheric background.
For sure. It is not the absolute magnitude of the signal that matters (in
this
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Has he looked for helium? That would be evidence for cold fusion. If he has
not detected any because he refused to look, that proves nothing.
I'm pretty sure Mills isn't using a PdD system. That is the only system of
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
I remember that the SPAWAR experiments indicated He formed with the
correct 24... Mev energy of a D-D fusion reaction.
In the SPAWAR experiments I recall ~ 10-15 MeV alphas -- I might have
missed a CR-39 paper that says
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
I stand by my remarks about the inability of his 1500V-2500V supply to be
able to accelerate electrons or protons to 1.5-2.5 keV due to high pressure
scattering collisions in his high density plasma.
An analogy I use
Fran,
You should use paragraph breaks. They would make your contributions easier
to read.
Eric
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
[image: http://www.byzipp.com/gamma.png]
Sorry in advance, this is a work in progress initiated by a
Terry--
Your theory is sane. That's my theory too.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62
This is making my theory of electron absorption by multi particle
Jones-
By hot fusion I mean fusion that occurs because a hot incoming particle is
able to overcome the coulomb barrier and fuse to the target. Production
particles from fusion coming out at high energy do not constitute hot fusion
in my book.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Jones
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