Re: [Vo]:Re: Right-on AGP

2015-01-06 Thread Mark Jurich
[4] The Thermal Decomposition of Lithium Aluminum Hydride, Block Gray (1964) http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ic50025a009 Page 1 – http://pubs.acs.org/appl/literatum/publisher/achs/journals/content/inocaj/1965/inocaj.1965.4.issue-3/ic50025a009/production/ic50025a009.fp.png_v03

[Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Article in Japanese, which Google does a good job translating into English: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/atcars/news/20150106-OYT8T50183.html Toyota has begun selling a hydrogen powered fuel-cell vehicle. They have 5320 patents relating to the fuel system. They want to put them in the public domain

RE: [Vo]:Right-on AGP

2015-01-06 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Tuesday Jones said[snip] The zero-point field could potentially supply mass-equivalence to a chemical reaction in a number of forms, including your favorite: spin energy[/snip] In a Puthoff sense physical mater only persists because of Zero point spin energy/Aether, which is rolled into our

RE: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Jed Rothwell wrote: I think this is a dead-end technology. It cannot compete with plug-in electric hybrid cars and pure electric vehicles. Toyota and Tesla are nearing the end of sales of the jointly developed RAV4 electric sport utility

RE: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Misinformation? Toyota wants to make its competitors think it's going down fuel-cell path when it is really developing LENR-based tech for powering its future fleet... -mark iverson -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:12

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread John Berry
Without some breakthrough, fuel cells are just a distraction. http://www.autoblog.com/2014/08/05/why-battery-electric-vehicles-will-beat-fuel-cells/ On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Misinformation? Toyota wants to make its competitors think it's

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:12:26 -0800: Hi, [snip] Think about thermal decomposition of water with a newly discovered catalyst, probably in one of these 5300 patents, plus an improved dog-bone reactor at 1300C. As of now, we know that water molecules split into

RE: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Yes, they funded early LENR work with FP. IIRC, they stopped LENR research for a period of time, but then restarted the effort. You can bet the BoD and C-levels have been kept up-to-date about developments in LENR... -mark iverson -Original Message- From: Bob Cook

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread Lennart Thornros
There is a theoretic business model called the S-curve theory that explains the possibilities and the risk with new technology. The typewriters , the vacuum tubes, the adding machines etc. are good examples. So far I am in agreement with the idea that there is a market changes due to technology.

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread Bob Cook
Mark's thought also was the first idea that came into my head upon reading Terry's comment. I think they, Toyota, are onto LENR. Let's not forget they hired Pons and Fleishman for research in Nice, France after they left the USA. Bob - Original Message - From: MarkI-ZeroPoint

[Vo]:The analysis of the DB2Day Autopsy

2015-01-06 Thread Axil Axil
From the analysis of the DB2Day Autopsy, loading hydrogen into the Dog Bone is a complicated an involved process. It seems to me, if too much heat is applied at initial start up, hydrogen pressure may clime too high too fast when enough Lithium aluminum hydride is provided to ensure that when

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I have spoted that GSVIT critic of your position on the Mizuno experiment https://gsvit.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/misura-calorimetrica-sulla-pompa-md-6k-n-utilizzata-da-tadahiko-mizuno/ through google translate it seems to claim that the pump heat

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Think about thermal decomposition of water with a newly discovered catalyst, probably in one of these 5300 patents, plus an improved dog-bone reactor at 1300C. I do not think that a cheap method of producing hydrogen would help much, unless it was

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I do not think that a cheap method of producing hydrogen would help much, unless it was small enough and safe enough to place in people's houses. Come to think of it, that would not help much. You could only drive half the range of the fuel tank away from your house. I was thinking

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2015-01-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Something else I just thought of: 17O+6Li = 16O + 7Li + 3.107 MeV I would not be surprised if there were other stripping reactions occurring if Ni(7Li,6Ni)Ni was happening. As a side note, with the introduction of a gas phase

RE: [Vo]:Right-on AGP

2015-01-06 Thread Jones Beene
A side note which should be mentioned re: Mark’s listing of citations, given the extreme energetics of lithium hydride… is whether we are looking at a subset of violation of parity. Or maybe it is the superset. A “near miracle” explanation for the Parkhomov anomaly can be called “asymmetric

Re: [Vo]:The analysis of the DB2Day Autopsy

2015-01-06 Thread Axil Axil
See for the analysis https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: From the analysis of the DB2Day Autopsy, loading hydrogen into the Dog Bone is a complicated an involved process. It seems to me, if too much heat

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain

2015-01-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is a dead-end technology. It cannot compete with plug-in electric hybrid cars and pure electric vehicles. Toyota and Tesla are nearing the end of sales of the jointly developed RAV4 electric sport utility

Re: [Vo]:Right-on AGP

2015-01-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Both imply that the universe displays handedness, or chirality, and this is fundamentally asymmetric. Or we do not see the whole universe.

[Vo]:LENR (and LENR+) database

2015-01-06 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, The contrary of an easy task but the future needs it: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/01/lenr-knol-and-wisd-january-6-2015.html Best wishes to the project and to you! Peter- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Right-on AGP

2015-01-06 Thread Bob Cook
RE: [Vo]:Right-on AGPJones-- To show my ignorance, what's a Gibbs energy vector? Can it point into negative energy? Zero point? I am not sure of all your inferences. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:44 AM

RE: [Vo]:Right-on AGP

2015-01-06 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, Simply stated – we can suggest that we could be seeing a unique chemical reaction which gives more energy in formation than it requires to decompose back to the original reactants. Standard textbooks says NO WAY. Gibbs free energy is balanced. Nevertheless, if there was to be