Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication

2015-01-13 Thread Axil Axil
Jack, the very best of luck. *Fleischmann*/*Pons* detected RF when their cell was in operation. I suspect that RF is a reaction byproduct in the same way as heat. Do you plan to check for R product by the LENR reaction?. A RF detecter can be had at a reasonable cost

[Vo]:Dark wires in glowing reactor ?

2015-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
There have a number of comments about images from the Parkhomov/Rossi reactors which appear to show dark wires in front of a brightly glowing background. Yet . we know that these wires should be strongly incandescent (unless the photo was taken immediately after the current was turned off).

RE: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication

2015-01-13 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jack: Thanks for exiting the peanut gallery and jumping into the frying pan! I might be able to donate a thing or two to the effort… -mark iverson From: Jack Cole [mailto:jcol...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:44 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report

Re: [Vo]:Dark wires in glowing reactor ?

2015-01-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Hydrogen in the DDL is greatly reduced in diameter so that it cannot be contained by the ceramic - and the isomer atoms would diffuse through the alumina (which is a dielectric) as soon as they are formed. These hydrinos

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Bob Cook
Dave and Gigi-- In the overall evaluation of the energy balance, please note that the 6L pump uses .25amps x 115 VAC power = 28.75 watts. This is in accordance with a 2005 drawing of the pump from the vendor that I forwarded to Dave a day or so ago. (The actual pump used in the test may have

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread David Roberson
Dear Gigi, You wrote: The pump absorbs from the grid a given amount of electrical power: for the sake of simplicity let's say 12 W. According to the data sheet 3 W are transformed into mechanical work and, eventually, transformed into heat inside the water. The other 9 W are directly

Re: [Vo]:Re: QM rant

2015-01-13 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
In prompto of your argument I try to get a discussion about especially the nature of charge and that of a charge at a orbitsphere. Maybe you'll find the argument interessting, have fun! Hi, Many people have fundamental issues with accepting that the law of the atom is following a non smooth rule

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Gigi DiMarco
Excuse me Jed, but I think that is very simple for you to say that I do not understand calorimetry if you reply to a question that I did not ask. The refrigerator example is quite evident, but is unfit to our situation, by various causes. The main one is that there you have an abrupt *change *of

Re: [Vo]:Dark wires in glowing reactor ?

2015-01-13 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I observed the the same thing in the picture provided by McKubre in his current evaluation of the test in Infinite Energy #119. An observation reported by Storms via McKubre's report questions the report in that the temperature measured at the center by the T/C does not seem to

Re: [Vo]:Dark wires in glowing reactor ?

2015-01-13 Thread Axil Axil
If a superconductive state is manifest in the hearer wire that is not adjusted for by the power supply, the heater will not produce the constant heat from electrical resistance as expected. This could be the reason why there is oscillation in the heat produced in the reactor in several alumina

Re: [Vo]:Dark wires in glowing reactor ?

2015-01-13 Thread Axil Axil
More I bet that one of the functions that Rossi has implemented in his heater control box is to keep the power constant in the face of the onset of superconductivity in his heater. The TPR2 testers did not report trouble keeping power flow to the heater constant. If superconductivity is

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Gigi DiMarco gdmgdms...@gmail.com wrote: The refrigerator example is quite evident, but is unfit to our situation, by various causes. The main one is that there you have an abrupt *change *of air temperature, while in the 18h test the air temperature is falling at a modest rate of 0,36 °C/h

[Vo]:a short discussion with Yu.N. Bazhutov

2015-01-13 Thread Peter Gluck
LENR/CNT activity in Russia is very vivid. Therefore I have iscussed with one of its leaders http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/01/short-interview-with-yu-n-bazhutov.html I hope to learn more. later Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread David Roberson
Dear Gigi, I have begun to analyze your report and find something that does not seem logical according to my understanding of heat flow. On your figure A2 I see that you have overlaid your simulation results upon Jed's figure. The correspondence between the curves is remarkable and you

Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication

2015-01-13 Thread Jack Cole
Thanks Jones. Good suggestion on the Nichrome. If this pans out, that would be a good thing to try for enhancing the reaction. I don't have any way to estimate the hydrogen loss. I can only tell when it is occurring. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication

2015-01-13 Thread Jack Cole
Thanks Jed. I plan to do some follow-up experiments to rule out alternative explanations. Explained here: http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/14/experimental-plans-replication/ I have started the calibration run to see if it can be replicated. I should have results in a day or two. On

RE: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication

2015-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
Congrats to Jack – and gain is gain, so do not fret over low COP as it will improve. Can you estimate the rate of hydrogen loss? I would love to see Kanthal windings compared against Nichrome 80. Not expensive here and the ohms/ft. are listed. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Gigi DiMarco
Dear Jed, in your report you write: *The temperature rose for 1.5 hours until it stabilized 0.6°Cabove room temperature (Fig. 19.) It stabilized because heat losses equal the power from thepump. In other words, with low input power after 1.5 hours, this system acts as an

[Vo]:First message about LENR-Cities oxford conference... Airbus was there...

2015-01-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
Michel Vandenberghe published a short message about this weekend conference in Oxford. I relayed it. as you can read I think that it is a turn in the battle, as the presence of an Airbus official (plus journalist and academic people) may sadly have more importance than any calorimetry.

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Gigi DiMarco
*I missed the simulation for some reason. Where can I find that? Sorry if I overlooked it.* In a previous message I gave you a couple of links. In the second link, in the *APPENDIX *you will find the simulation *The fact that you measure 4.5 watts versus a specification of 3 watts maximum

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Calculating the Energy of an atom using the equation for an isolated conducting sphere.

2015-01-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Good time to inject again the 2005 Jan Naudts paper re relativistic hydrogen which if correct means the redundant state is a relativistic perspective induced by surrounding Casimir geometry that restricts the vacuum density. Locally there is no redundant state just Lorentzian contraction and

[Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication

2015-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Gigi DiMarco gdmgdms...@gmail.com wrote: I could say that this is false but I will be fair and I will say that this is not true. From the missing file (Mizuno's data) we get the following situation for the difference between water and ambient temperature (4h 2.5°C) (5h 2.9°C) (6h 3.1°C) (7h

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Calculating the Energy of an atom using the equation for an isolated conducting sphere.

2015-01-13 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
I searched a little in the literature about these hydrinos, They seams to originate from the wave operator, people have found them in simple wave equations. Both Maxwell's equations, the Dirac equation etc contains the wave operator. What is interesting is that if you assume that the proton have a

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Calculating the Energy of an atom using the equation for an isolated conducting sphere.

2015-01-13 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
I searched a little in the litterature about thise hydrinos, They seams to originate from the wave operatores, people have found them in simple wave equations. Both Maxwell's equations, the Dirac equation etc contains it. What is interesting is that if you assume that the proton have a spatial

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread David Roberson
Gigi, I just recalculated the combined thermal time constants and now I believe you have them right. I must have performed that calculation 5 times and kept getting a different answer! The thermal K's that you used are inverted from the normal R's(resistors) that I always use when

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Gigi DiMarco
According to Jed the pump is never turned off. So this is the real fact: there is no excess heat, only the pump. Plus the calorimeter external and internal time constant (capacity+resistance) We can overlaid the experimental figures only by using the calorimeter parameter and an estimated pump

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread David Roberson
I may have answered my own question below. The drop in ambient acts much like a negative signal as I have proposed before. Eventually the delta will become zero for both signals. Forget the first question and concentrate upon the next one. I notice that in both curves that you use to

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Gigi DiMarco
Jed, I think you should study heat transfer. I suggest you the book by Incropera et al. In one comment you say that the loss is equal to the pump power and the system stay constant; in the following comment you do not remember this and start speaking about the Newton's law of cooling. You

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread David Roberson
Gigi, I have another issue that you might be able to discuss. You made two independent simulations of the behavior of the Dewar temperature and reactor body over time. In one case the pump was working and in the other if had failed. I took the values that you calculated for the thermal

Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication

2015-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
More about this: http://coldfusionnow.org/qa-with-jack-cole-on-new-hot-cat-replication-experiment-completion/

[Vo]:Video Tutorial

2015-01-13 Thread H Veeder
Newton's law of cooling https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differential-equations/first-order-differential-equations/modeling-with-differential-equations/v/newtons-law-of-cooling Harry

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread Gigi DiMarco
Ok, we need some time to perform the full set of simulations. But please do not take for sure that the pump only test had exactly the same configuration than the test run had. We will present them as soon as we are confident that all the problems have been settled. 2015-01-13 22:18 GMT+01:00

Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised

2015-01-13 Thread David Roberson
Take your time Gigi, we want to get to the facts. I am very impressed by the simulations that you have shown and how well they match the curves made by Jed. Now, we need to verify that things add up as they should by combining thermal resistance and capacities of two parts to get to the