Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 5 Feb 2016 01:50:14 -0500: Hi, [snip] >I suppose the question is; How inefficient does the solar cell array become >when the device is throttled back significantly? Since all the power >eventually becomes radiated, the black body temperature must be

Re: [Vo]:Why the automobile market appeals to cold fusion investors

2016-02-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a nifty data browser for electricity net generation: http://www.eia.gov/electricity/data/browser/?src=home-f1 It shows the rise of gas and wind energy, and the fall of coal. It shows wind overtaking hydro. This is actual net generation, not capacity. Move the cursor to the graph lines

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Russ George
Well we can only hope… I think when he looks as I have he will see which silver isotope is peculiar. Whether that adds insight or confusion is another question. From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 7:35 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Higgins
Dave, I am not sure what you say is entirely true. The 10V source can provide direct heating to a certain temperature, and can create a plasma from electron impact. A plasma is comprised of ionized gas. However, the ions don't need to be bare nuclei, and typically are not for anything but a

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Axil Axil
Dear Dave, This may help http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/TechnicalPresentation1.8.16.pdf These are the slides used in the demo Slide 53 and/or 57 are what you might need to see what you want. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Higgins
In the presentation, Mills showed the spectrum from Ag plasma. It included a soft x-ray band of lines and a UV band of lines. The spectrum did not look blackbody. If there was any evidence that Mills was producing something other than resistive plasma heating, *perhaps* the spectrum was some

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Axil Axil
Sorry, Bob rather than Dave On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > Dear Dave, > > This may help > > > http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/TechnicalPresentation1.8.16.pdf > > These are the slides used in the demo > > Slide 53 and/or 57 are what

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins * Even still, Mills provided NO EVIDENCE for excess heat at all - zero, zip, nada. This doesn't mean he is not realizing excess heat, he simply provided no evidence for it. Yes. This was my main complaint in an earlier posting about the failings of this demo. The

[Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Cook
Bob and Dave-- I was surprised by Mill’s lack of any input power statement. He seemed to avoid the issue with only discussion of amps of current during, I assumed each millisecond cycle. The exact timing of the voltage at 10 volts vs the amperage at the same time would be more instructive.

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Axil Axil
Dear Russ, Mills wll never give isotopic data because that info would undercut the hydrino theory in preference for the LENR theory. Hydrinos have no nuclear impact whereas LENR does. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Russ George wrote: > I would argue that the present

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread David Roberson
Bob, I am sure you realize I am speculating about this subject. Logic would suggest that the plasma can be heated to very high temperatures by current flowing within its mass. It would seem to me that the application of additional power would result in a higher temperature regardless of the

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Higgins
Thank you, Axil, for this link. It is slide 49, in particular to which I am making reference. In this slide you can see the soft x-ray set of lines around 20-60nm, and another set of deep UV lines from 120-300nm. What I was saying is that the band from 120-300nm is explain-able from the 10V

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Higgins
My take on the curves shown after slide 49 is that they were showing evolution of the spectrum. As the machine and Ag vapor gets hotter and hotter, the spectrum will begin to be dominated/overwhelmed by blackbody radiation. What is heated to those temperatures is Ag vapor. I am not sure exactly

[Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Cook
Bob-- Look at slides that follow #49—like about 57 and 60 or so. The first is a multi-colored spectrum of some different runs I believe in Nano meters up to about 500. And the second is a calculated spectrum for a black body for 5000 D Kelvin. Note that the multi-colored graph shows each

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread David Roberson
The document referred to by Axil show that the energy holding capacitors are wired up in series/parallel so that they can only deliver an open circuit voltage of a bit greater than 5 volts. The design reminds me of a rail gun where the conductive silver fuel drops act as a switch that allows

[Vo]:A DAY WITH LENR AND HYDRINO ENERGY INFO

2016-02-05 Thread Peter Gluck
a lot to read,see and think over. Or through. it is here http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/02/feb-5-2016-lenr-and-hydrino-energy-info.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Axil Axil
>From what I took away from the Mills demo, Mills says that he uses fluorescence to convert and downshift the XUV and X-ray EMF into the visible spectrum. I don't recall exactly, but Mills says that he is using some sulfate to do this light frequency downshifting. He must do this to get the EMF

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Russ George
I would argue that the present context Mills work better supports a philosophical as opposed to scientific discussion. It’s much the same as Rossi’s work. The data is lacking so what is there to talk about other than appearances. For me Mill’s engine core is such a perfect facsimile to

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: If there was any evidence that Mills was producing something other than > resistive plasma heating, *perhaps* the spectrum was some evidence. > This is a question I'm interested in -- (a) for the latest prototype, are

Re: [Vo]:Why the automobile market appeals to cold fusion investors

2016-02-05 Thread Axil Axil
I believe that the LENR reaction can be adjusted to provide an output that is more well suited for the auto market. Both Mills and Papp generate a large amount of XUV and x-ray EMF, but papp added xenon (Xe) and other noble gases to his fuel mixture. These additions convert XUV and x-rays into

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Russ George's message of Fri, 5 Feb 2016 07:24:04 -0800: Hi Russ, >I would argue that the present context Mills work better supports a >philosophical as opposed to scientific discussion. It’s much the same as >Rossi’s work. The data is lacking so what is there to talk about other

[Vo]:Why the automobile market appeals to cold fusion investors

2016-02-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook wrote: > The idea of making the device good for a car to justify its rapid > introduction commercially was just a pipe dream for gullible investors in > my mind. > Yes. Cold fusion researchers, "over unity" energy researchers and others are mesmerized by the

RE: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Axil Axil Ø The Karabut experiment also undercuts the Mill's Hydrino conjecture. More like reinforces. In fact, Mills would likely say the predicted emission spectra supports his theory since it corresponds to a deep Rydberg level. Interesting to me is that the emission peak

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Axil Axil
The amount and wide range of nuclear activity is what I had seen as speaking against the Hydrino chemical only model. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > *From:* Axil Axil > > > > Ø The Karabut experiment also undercuts the Mill's Hydrino conjecture. > >

[Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Cook
Bob-- Thoria melts at about 3600 K. It would erode pretty fast at 5000 K. So the time that is pretty fast would be seconds to minutes for a reasonable thick block of thoria. Iridium Oxide or just iridium melt at a lower temperature. Not may substances have a melting point above 3500 K.

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Ludwik Kowalski
Yes indeed. Experimental data reported by Karabut and his coworkers (from Lutch laboratory in Russia) were spectacular, as summarized in: http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/10lutch.html and in their later ICCF reports. Their apparatus was quite simple. Unfortunately, I am not aware

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Eric Walker
Hi, On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Russ George wrote: Well we can only hope… I think when he looks as I have he will see which > silver isotope is peculiar. Whether that adds insight or confusion is > another question. In your own case, what isotope changes have you

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Axil Axil
The Karabut experiment also undercuts the Mill's Hydrino conjecture. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Ludwik Kowalski < kowals...@mail.montclair.edu> wrote: > Yes indeed. Experimental data reported by Karabut and his coworkers (from > Lutch laboratory in Russia) were spectacular, as summarized

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Jack Cole
Dave wrote: "If my above thought process is accurate then a 1 volt source would be capable of initiating 10 eV radiation if it can supply enough local heat to the system and that energy of radiation is possible when the ion recombines. Perhaps we should not be too concerned about the source

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:34:07 -0500: Hi, [snip] >The document referred to by Axil show that the energy holding capacitors are >wired up in series/parallel so that they can only deliver an open circuit >voltage of a bit greater than 5 volts. The design reminds

[Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Cook
Robin-- I think the reaction chamber is in a vacuum. The figure of the machine depicts a vacuum system. Plasmas generally like vacuums. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP demo

[Vo]:Re: Why the automobile market appeals to cold fusion investors

2016-02-05 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- It’s rare that I agree with you, but I do on this one. Especially if the E-Cat-X make electricity as Rossi suggests, it is a natural for electric cars, and maybe even back-fitting the electrics of today...Elon take note Bob Cook From: Axil Axil Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Fri, 5 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Thank you, Axil, for this link. It is slide 49, in particular to which I >am making reference. In this slide you can see the soft x-ray set of lines >around 20-60nm, and another set of deep UV lines from 120-300nm.

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP demo video

2016-02-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Ludwik Kowalski's message of Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:08:48 -0500: Hi, >Yes indeed. Experimental data reported by Karabut and his coworkers (from >Lutch laboratory in Russia) were spectacular, as summarized in: > >http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/10lutch.html > >and in their

Re: [Vo]:Why the automobile market appeals to cold fusion investors

2016-02-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
I think the car examples are because they are easy to communicate. No serious investor will make that in itself a major factor in an investment decision, We are talking millions and that is a lot of money even for the super rich. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436

[Vo]:Teslafy Posts to Before it's News.

2016-02-05 Thread Harvey Norris
 Cited from 5 jpegs taken Six Voltage Meter Triangulation Tests for Time Distortion Jpegs may also be viewed from commentary on this video if article shows problems of access.Published on Dec 17, 2015I am beginning to understand the principles involved with reactive magnifications of energy. If