Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread H LV
Monty Python - Tim the Enchanter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDptmMgWQk Harry

Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Eric, you are trying to gloss over unscrupulous conduct. It stinks no > matter what name you put on it. I only wonder whether Rossi has committed fraud, illegal or otherwise. I've given at least one reason I think he

RE: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker Ø In other words, I don't think there is a need to presume that fraud involved. Eric, you are trying to gloss over unscrupulous conduct. It stinks no matter what name you put on it. If you admit that there was deceit of any kind, I have listed circumstance which

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

2016-03-22 Thread H Ucar
This is true if diametrically polarised magnets are placed side by side as gears. Al (of whipmag) termed this config as 'gearwise' and the case of magnets spinning in same direction as 'counter gearwise'. He hed obtained cgw with a composite magnet assembly apperently self running. I had

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

2016-03-22 Thread H Ucar
Photos attached. See my comments below. https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMlej_5bSpRg2fZ6KbaTD7RYmQ0cgvU1RXC9BpX > Vibrator ! Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:04:38 -0700 > What are the relative polarities - are they axially or diametrically  > polarised (poles on opposite faces or same face)? Both are

[Vo]:off topic obama care

2016-03-22 Thread Frank Znidarsic
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Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: Another difficulty I have is that there are other plausible explanations > than misdirection for why there was such a big shift in the amounts of > nickel isotopes, even assuming that Rossi intentionally made use of it. > The "it" above refers to 62Ni, which I accidentally left out.

Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Ø EW: There is no need to presume that there was any fraud involved… > > > > Wrong. Given the circumstance, fraud is the most logical conclusion based > on the facts. Your stance is similar to saying that OJ was innocent

[Vo]:Ceres, the LENR planet

2016-03-22 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2016-03-bright-differences-revealed-ceres.html

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

2016-03-22 Thread Vibrator !
(ETA. counterclockwise synch is interesting and also easily replicable, at least in diametrically magnetised rotors, Again though, if this is an axially polarised levitation then this too is anomolous. Have to say, everything's pointing to diametric polarisation - alternatig fields, so Earnshaw

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

2016-03-22 Thread Vibrator !
What are the relative polarities - are they axially or diametrically polarised (poles on opposite faces or same face)? Assuming axial magnetisation and that both are common permanent magnets, the floating weight is levitated by reuplsion in apparent defiance of Earnshaw's theorem (since, per

[Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-22 Thread Bob Cook
If Ni-64 transmutes to Ni-65 by adding a slow neutron and then decays to Cu-65, there are no neutrons produced--only a + beta emission I think. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: H LV Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kamacite and natural

Re: [Vo]: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Stephen Cooke
@Jones Beene, Yup I agree I also find the neutron model hard to swallow for the same reasons you mentioned. Which is why I still prefer some kind proton capture at this time. I just have a hunch they may both be right with their respective mixes some how, however but I agree experiment is the

RE: [Vo]: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Jones Beene
But Stephen – what you suggest would involve neutron irradiation … which would activate much more than the nickel, if that was the main channel. Since there is no secondary activation, neutrons are probably out (except as something like Hagelstein’s neutron “hopping” which is speculative).

Re: [Vo]: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Stephen Cooke
@Jones Beene. Are you sure that they are not both correct? You said something interesting about the medical use of Ni62 and how both Ni62 and Ni64 form radio active isotopes Ni63 and Ni 65 if irradiated by neutrons. Could this be part of the process some how? For the LENR device maybe Ni65 is

RE: [Vo]:Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-22 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: H LV > The stimulated decay of 64Ni should be accompanied by neutrons and/or > radioactivity. If it decayed directly to 62Ni this would generate detectable > neutrons and other radioactive isotopes. Stimulated decay is one possibility but not the only one.

[Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Bob Higgins
There appears confusion in Parkhomov's Sochi paper about chart 14. The graph on the left appears to be a fuel percentage, perhaps by atomic abundance (not weight). It includes all of the components found in any significant amount. If you go through the estimated values for the before bars, they

[Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

2016-03-22 Thread H Ucar
That is while the base magnet attached to motor in a vertical axis spinning clockwise, the floating magnet in air keeps spinning counter clockwise in phase locked mode 1 cm above the base magnet. In order to obtain this mode the floating magnet is initially forced to spin counter wise using air

Re: [Vo]:Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-22 Thread H LV
The stimulated decay of 64Ni should be accompanied by neutrons and/or radioactivity. If it decayed directly to 62Ni this would generate detectable neutrons and other radioactive isotopes. On the other hand if 64Ni decayed to 62Ni by first decaying to 63Ni, then 63Ni should be detectable since it

[Vo]:Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-22 Thread Jones Beene
Iron-nickel meteorites can contain high levels of heavy nickel (64Ni). In space debris analyzed at U of Chicago, an increase of ~500‰ excess in 64Ni has been found in samples. This is about the level of the heavy nickel which Parkhomov used in the Sochi paper. We are trying to find out where his

[Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Bob Cook
The AP test results at slide 14 did not make sense to me. In particular I do not understand the scale of the graph with the red and blue (before and after) amounts of the various Li isotopes listed. For example, the Li isotopes when added together do not seem to add to 100 or any other

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread a.ashfield
March 10, 2016 – By Steven B. Krivit – Industrial Heat has apparently terminated its relationship with businessman Andrea Rossi. Andrea Rossi March 21, 2016 at 12:56 PM IH has the exclusive right to do this. (distribute the E-Cat in the US) Industrial Heat wrote “Any claims made about

[Vo]:Final part of the French LENR Symposium, some info

2016-03-22 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/03/mar-22-2016-lenr-french-symposium-final.html Let's prepare for the Anniversary of tomorrow. What do you think - not about the past, the future is more interesting and has chances to be better. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania

[Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Bob Cook
1. There is an assumption that all the Rossi fuel particles were the same isotopic mix. This may not have been the case. To my knowledge AR did not say the fuel was a homogeneous mix. There may have been different concentration in the various nano particles used to load the reactor. 2. I

RE: [Vo]: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins Ø Interestingly, what MFMP found in the assay of its 62Ni sample was that the fraction of 64Ni in the enriched sample was not increased. This is not surprising. The main use of the 62 isotopes appears to be medical. The online information suggests that the starting

[Vo]:446 library hits

2016-03-22 Thread Frank Znidarsic
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Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Axil Axil
Making sense out of the way nuclear reactions occur in LENR is a fruitless endeavor. It might be that the Ni62 was produced by a single cluster fusion event with Li7 in which a trillion atoms were involved. The nickel and lithium might have been included in a Bose condensate where all the atoms

Re: [Vo]: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Bob Higgins
Note that the Lugano report's TOF-SIMS analysis reported the 62Ni concentration of 98.7% (not pure 62Ni, see page 42, Table 1). Also, the Lugano report's ICP-MS analysis reported the ash sample tested (different particle) to be 99.3% (page 53, table in the middle of the page). Neither of these

Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Jack Cole
AP's 15-day run should have shown a much more significant shift if the Lugano results are true. His COP is not mentioned, but noted 100W of excess for 15-days. Isn't that probably in the range of Lugano's true excess output? Also, AP's best recent results were 100W excess over 15 days. What

RE: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook Ø The AP test did not run very long and may not have depleted the Ni to the extent of the Lugano test. Here is the comparative data. The important comparison is on slide 14. As a good scientist, you will change your view after studying this.

[Vo]:Lev Berstein patent: US 20140192941 A1?

2016-03-22 Thread Stephen Cooke
Has this patent from Lev Berstein been reviewed here? Is he a known player in LENR? I found this patent online: Method of acceleration of nuclear transmutation of isotopes by carrying out exothermic reactions US 20140192941 A1 http://www.google.com/patents/US20140192941 which on brief reading

[Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Bob Cook
I am glad that Russ and Jones seem to understand the NI LENR reactions so well. I think they should write science papers on the subject. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:16 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress From: Eric Walker Russ

[Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Bob Cook
The AP test did not run very long and may not have depleted the Ni to the extent of the Lugano test. Remember that the Lugano test was loaded to run only the length of time that it ran basically. Since the various transmutations in the Ni isotopes are not well understood—particularly the

RE: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker Russ George wrote: C’mon guys the Lugano report of that 64[62]Ni is an impossible bit of data … that number is bogus by gross error or intent. Get over it, just toss that piece of BS out the window into the garden where it might do some good. Ø EW: There is no need to

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Lithium Ion Failure

2016-03-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Have you ever taken a laptop battery apart? Each cell has a separate wire attached for equalization of charge. Since each cell has a slight different of internal resistance, it is necessary to equalize the charge periodically. Tesla does this to all 7400 cells in their car batteries. Sent from

Re: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Walker
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 23:14, "Russ George" wrote: > > The Lugano issue is the mono-isotopic signature in Ni… no pure isotope Ni is > available (99%-93% pure isotopes of Ni are available). The instrumentation is > capable of seeing into the second decimal place in % so

RE: [Vo]:Re: E-Cat progress

2016-03-22 Thread Russ George
The Lugano issue is the mono-isotopic signature in Ni… no pure isotope Ni is available (99%-93% pure isotopes of Ni are available). The instrumentation is capable of seeing into the second decimal place in % so where are the other isotopes of Ni even as a small signature if the Lugano report