Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
"Grays" were aliens associated with Area 51, IIRC, but a lot of the security around the Broom Lake region was eventually lifted, as I understand it, and no aliens ever turned up, and the whole thing appears to have been a tempest in a teapot caused by the Air Force's love of secrecy coupled

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread Craig Haynie
Learned something new today. What are "grays"? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/92/65/96/926596fc73fadc74a03a639b60968884.jpg Craig

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: orgone energy or grays living in tunnels under the Whitehouse > Orgone energy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone Learned something new today. What are "grays"? Eric

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

2016-05-26 Thread Russ George
Given that CERN and SLAC claim a 5 sigma signal is "PROOF" in their work the 10 sigma signal seen of this fifth force boson ought to count for something. The 17mev is remarkably within the energy ball park for many here-to-fore 23mev cold fusion events. A really interesting bit is whether this new

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread a.ashfield
Steven Vincent Johnson, There are plenty of other examples. What about NANOR technology? http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/01/24/report-from-cold-fusion-101-at-mit-barry-simon/ Life's too short for me to get you up to speed. You seem too certain it is impossible. Just wait until more news

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 05/25/2016 11:17 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Jed, what am I missing here? If, as Jed has asserted, Rossi is a fraud, then AFAIK there is no reason to believe in the ECAT any more than there is a reason to believe in orgone energy or grays living in tunnels under the

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

2016-05-26 Thread Jones Beene
Oops that post went out before it was edited and before the falsifiability prediction could be made, which is just as well. That prediction was a bit self-serving as it is already validated. Another will follow. hopefully with better editing. - Imagine a previously

[Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

2016-05-26 Thread Jones Beene
Imagine a previously unrecognized bosonic nuclear force, somewhat like a gluon - but which has an associated force which is "protophobic" meaning that it attracts and binds neutrons, and repels protons. By analogy - this new force acts like a magnet for neutrons and a diamagnet for protons. The

[Vo]:LENR on the way to Greatness

2016-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/05/may-26-2016-from-lenr-world-greatness.html do not forget the Info, please peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread David Roberson
Guys, I am confident that all of us would love to see LENR advance and become a very important energy source in the near future. Jed has been a tireless supporter of the field for many years and I appreciate his posts to this list. Mr. Ashfield has also made many important contributions that

RE: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-26 Thread Jones Beene
Stephen, One way that the “fifth force” (or sixth, since the fifth force is already spoken for) could be relevant to LENR relates to Takahashi’s TSC theory, or a revised version of it. This involves a Tetrahedral Symmetric Condensate … which, of course, has four vertices, or four active

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-26 Thread Stephen Cooke
Very interesting especially if a new force is implied. I do wonder though if the neutron cross- section is implicated somehow. This can also have a size several times that of the nucleus. Although Li7 has even number of neutrons which would have a neutron cross-section smaller than Li6 say I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, But there obviously was sufficient ventilation. Nobody died. It was a straw man. AA "a.ashfield > wrote: This started because you objected to me saying you wrote the heat would be fatal and then denying you meant that. The

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > This started because you objected to me saying you wrote the heat would be > fatal and then denying you meant that. The title of the thread that I started was: "1 MW of heat in a 6,500 sq. ft. facility without industrial ventilation would be fatal"