Guys, I am confident that all of us would love to see LENR advance and become a very important energy source in the near future. Jed has been a tireless supporter of the field for many years and I appreciate his posts to this list. Mr. Ashfield has also made many important contributions that I and others respect.
So, why not bury the axe and let's return to the important discussion of LENR science without resorting to attacks upon each other? We will achieve far superior results working as a team instead of fighting among ourselves. There will always be differences of opinion between the members of the list, but they need to be controlled in a manner that does not lead to conflict. Jed, if you were pointing out that ventilation is required when dealing with 1 MW of heating, then that makes sense to most of the folks on this list. Of course, it would be possible to extract that amount of heat by using a second method of heat extraction that could have been considered. For example, a second incoming source of cold water could be heated by a heat exchanger that then allowed for the heat to be taken away within it's exhaust stream. No one really knows what happens to the heat being generated by Rossi's system since he would not allow IH to examine the customer's section of the building. I also agree with Jed that IH should have been allowed access to the customer's equipment. For some reason that did not take place so we find ourselves in the present condition where legal action is going to cloud the subject for who knows how long into the future. This is very unfortunate in my opinion. It is also not surprising that this lack of reasonable cooperation is raising doubts about Rossi and his claims; in time the truth will prevail. I hope that my words did not offend anyone since that was clearly not my intention. We are all members of the same team that want to advance the science of LENR. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, May 26, 2016 7:42 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H. a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> wrote: This started because you objected to me saying you wrote the heat would be fatal and then denying you meant that. The title of the thread that I started was: "1 MW of heat in a 6,500 sq. ft. facility without industrial ventilation would be fatal" See? It says "without industrial ventilation." Do you understand? Let me repeat that: without industrial ventilation without industrial ventilation without industrial ventilation without industrial ventilation WITHOUT INDUSTRIAL VENTILATION WITHOUT INDUSTRIAL VENTILATION WITHOUT INDUSTRIAL VENTILATION WITHOUT INDUSTRIAL VENTILATION I said that without measuring the ventilation system, there is no proof of 1 MW of heat. What is so damned difficult about that? How can you possibly misunderstand what I mean? The title of you post suggests it was a straw man. This is getting repetitive and I suggest we quit it. I suggest you stop this pretend willful ignorance bullshit. - Jed