Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
The issue is:What have you been doing with that gamma ray thing. All the rest fits into what I called "whatever it is". On Tuesday, July 11, 2017, AlanG wrote: > On 7/11/2017 10:24 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Fusion events, and other nuclear exchanges. On 7/11/17, Axil Axil wrote: > Gamma's were also seen at reaction shutdown. What produces those gammas? > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley > wrote: > >> I believe gammas are generated and then

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Axil Axil
Gamma's were also seen at reaction shutdown. What produces those gammas? On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > I believe gammas are generated and then absorbed into the BEC, sliced > and diced into X rays. That is, the vast majority of the gammas. >

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I believe gammas are generated and then absorbed into the BEC, sliced and diced into X rays. That is, the vast majority of the gammas. Some poke their heads through, especially in the initial phase where it's an endothermic reaction starting the whole thing. That's why Celani saw Gammas at

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
5 Jul at 5:50 PM  said :   So much drama fornothing... does that count as sneering? On Wednesday, 12 July 2017, 0:35, Jed Rothwell wrote: Che wrote:  Who sneered? Who are "they"? - Jed What? You calling me a liar? Okay, have it

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Che wrote: > Who sneered? Who are "they"? >> >> - Jed >> >> > What? You calling me a liar? > Okay, have it your way: you're a liar. Now tell us who sneered. > Go read the thread. > I don't see it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Che
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Che wrote: > > >> > Not so - no one here that I am aware of - sneers at MFMP. Or if they do - >>> they are misguided. >>> >> >> Well they have. Right here. Recently. >> > > Who sneered? Who

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Axil Axil
Gamma rays are not generated in LENR reactions because the reaction energy is completely drained by the entanglement of the SPP BEC that is in place on the nanoparticles that produce the LENR reaction. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > I have thought

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-11 Thread AlanG
On 7/11/2017 10:24 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by Hans Biberian. And then they just faded away onto whatever it is they've been doing for 4 years. Kevin, your comment suggests that you haven't been paying attention or even bothering

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I have thought for a long time that there have been multiple LENR reactions. When you let loose a gamma inside a lattice and it hits those other nickel (or palladium) atoms, it generates fission reactions. The ash analysis results have been all over the board. On 7/11/17, Axil Axil

[Vo]:Question about Muon catalysed fusion

2017-07-11 Thread Remi Cornwall
Dear Vo, Sorry if this is off topic but I have a question about Muon catalysed fusion. If I understand correctly, basically two factors come into play a) Muon decay and b) Muon capture by alpha particles from the fusion process. So I thought this:- A) A neutron on its own decays after about 15

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by Hans Biberian. And then they just faded away onto whatever it is they've been doing for 4 years. On 7/10/17, Che wrote: > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: >>

Re: [Vo]:2nd Law proved not valid, ignored by West

2017-07-11 Thread Jones Beene
of interest https://arxiv.org/abs/1701.08455 mix...@bigpond.com wrote: What they have constructed is essentially a magnetic "diode" between the plates, which allows current flow in one direction only. https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0311104

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
You sound like someone who doesn't want to see LENR succeed. Seems about the right position, for a communist. On 7/11/17, Che wrote: > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: >> >> Mary Yugo said he was contacted by investors

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
That's the whole point of having an independent 3rd party. Apparently Rossi has the ability to change reality perception when he's around, similar to Steve Jobs. On 7/11/17, H LV wrote: > If that is true then Rossi either lacks the ability to interpret his own > data or he

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
That would be just like him. On 7/11/17, Jones Beene wrote: > > Wait a minute. There is still Randell Mills to deal with, and he says he > can not only heat up a cup of coffee but evaporate it in a burst of > hydrinos in seconds. He has better credentials than any of us, and

RE: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Harry— You may be right. The trial results promised to be a lose-lose situation for all concerned: settlement a win-win situation for all concerned. It does suggest that Woodford Investments and Darden, etal., have a common strategy regarding venture capital expenditures—protect existing

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Russ: No one asked you to join this discussion. You don't like it, just ignore it. Huge duhh factor. On 7/11/17, Russ George wrote: > Doesn’t someone here have a toilet plunger to help the damned vortex flush > out all the turds that are stuck here. This endless

Re: [Vo]:2nd Law proved not valid, ignored by West

2017-07-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 10 Jul 2017 21:06:38 -0700: Hi, What they have constructed is essentially a magnetic "diode" between the plates, which allows current flow in one direction only. We have discussed the use of diodes on this forum before. >In the disclosed Maxwell's demon

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Che wrote: > Not so - no one here that I am aware of - sneers at MFMP. Or if they do - >> they are misguided. >> > > Well they have. Right here. Recently. > Who sneered? Who are "they"? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:2nd Law proved not valid, ignored by West

2017-07-11 Thread Jones Beene
Dave, Of course, we have known about "dark current" and photocathodes for almost 100 years, and also thermionic emissions are not new - but here is the novelty. Fu set up magnets so that the field lines were arranged to steer electrons in a way like MHD ... so that resulting polarity

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Che
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Che wrote > > People here sneer at the likes of the Martin Fleischmann Memorial > Project.. but say what you will: its very OPEN [Source] nature is what > *will* at least keep it out of the grubby clutches of

Re: [Vo]:2nd Law proved not valid, ignored by West

2017-07-11 Thread David Roberson
Looks like this experiment demonstrates a process which converts heat energy into electrical energy. This has already been observed when thermal radiation is emitted by a warm body. Also, electrical energy can be captured from a resistor surrounded by a heat sink. I am not sure why the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Che
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > Mary Yugo said he was contacted by investors looking to verify Rossi. He told them what to test for, and Rossi never had anything to do with them. The only way Rossi is going to find an investor now is to have the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
Now that Rossi has much more free time, I expect him to have bold strides in making new devices. The bad times are now past!

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Axil Axil
I now believe that there is multiple LENR reaction types. For example, Rossi has developed a low temperature LENR reaction and has tested it in the yearlong IH test. The mechanism for this type of LENR reaction is based on magnetic flux line focusing by the hexagonal based lattice of mica. This

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread H LV
If that is true then Rossi either lacks the ability to interpret his own data or he intentionally misrepresented his data. Harry On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > You're probably right. But there is evidence he had a COP > 1 for > some length of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Jones Beene
Wait a minute. There is still Randell Mills to deal with, and he says he can not only heat up a cup of coffee but evaporate it in a burst of hydrinos in seconds. He has better credentials than any of us, and he has followers who are more loyal than Rossi's. Prediction: Very soon, Mills will

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Axil Axil
R Mills is producing a teacup full of self sustaining 3000C plasma. Don't worry be happy. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Frank Znidarsic wrote: > > endless spewing of hate > > > > > That's where this has all come to. No device was developed to heat a cup > of coffee, as

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Brian Ahern
I agree with Frank's assessment. From: Frank Znidarsic Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:05 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled endless spewing of hate That's where this has all come to. No

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: Obscenity is also the endless spewing of hate that comes from your mouth. > Your hate mongering is amongst the most obscene that takes place on Vortex. > I suggest you block my messages. If you wish to know why I am opposed to Rossi, I suggest you read

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Frank Znidarsic
endless spewing of hate That's where this has all come to. No device was developed to heat a cup of coffee, as Mallove was requested to produce. 27 years later there is no cup of warm coffee. I worked on this technology hard for some time. I felt it was coming. I am now

RE: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Russ George
Obscenity is also the endless spewing of hate that comes from your mouth. Your hate mongering is amongst the most obscene that takes place on Vortex. And of your take or leave it advice that is classic troll-speak that has always been the pitiful recourse of those who do nothing but pontificate

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: This endless trollification by the unflushable malcontents that did not get > their free feed in the trial are festering into a terrible stench. Give it > a f*ckng break or at least go see your doctors and get some new meds, there > are remarkably good

RE: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Russ George
Doesn’t someone here have a toilet plunger to help the damned vortex flush out all the turds that are stuck here. This endless trollification by the unflushable malcontents that did not get their free feed in the trial are festering into a terrible stench. Give it a f*ckng break or at least go

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On 7/10/17, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Unless you took part in the lawyers' negotiations, you do not know that is > the reason. ***You don't have to be involved at that level. If the report was a slam dunk either way it would have compelled the outcome of the case. It wasn't