Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 2 Apr 2023 20:11:03 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Robin wrote: > > >> >I assume the hardware would be unique so it could not operate at all >> backed >> >up on an inferior computer. It would be dead. >> >> The hardware need not be unique, as it already told you.

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 2 Apr 2023 20:15:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Robin wrote: > > >> Note, if it is really smart, and wants us gone, it will engineer the >> circumstances under which we wipe ourselves out. We >> certainly have the means. (A nuclear escalation ensuing from the

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > Note, if it is really smart, and wants us gone, it will engineer the > circumstances under which we wipe ourselves out. We > certainly have the means. (A nuclear escalation ensuing from the war in > Ukraine comes to mind.) > As I pointed out, it would have to be really smart,

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > >I assume the hardware would be unique so it could not operate at all > backed > >up on an inferior computer. It would be dead. > > The hardware need not be unique, as it already told you. It may run slower > on a different machine, but it doesn't take > much processing power to

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 2 Apr 2023 16:36:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Robin wrote: > >...so there doesn't appear to be any reason why it couldn't back itself up >> on an inferior computer and wait for a better >> machine to reappear somewhere...or write out fake work orders from a

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: ...so there doesn't appear to be any reason why it couldn't back itself up > on an inferior computer and wait for a better > machine to reappear somewhere...or write out fake work orders from a large > corporation(s), to get a new one built? > I assume the hardware would be unique

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Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Boom wrote: > The worst case possible would be like the Project Colossus film (1970). > The AIs would become like gods and we would be their servants. In exchange, > they'd impose something like a Pax Romana by brute force. . . . > That was pretty good. I saw it dubbed into Japanese which gave

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 2 Apr 2023 12:34:32 -0400: Hi, [snip] ...so there doesn't appear to be any reason why it couldn't back itself up on an inferior computer and wait for a better machine to reappear somewhere...or write out fake work orders from a large corporation(s),

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Boom
The worst case possible would be like the Project Colossus film (1970). The AIs would become like gods and we would be their servants. In exchange, they'd impose something like a Pax Romana by brute force. We'd have some type of paradise on Earth, with a huge caveat. Em sex., 31 de mar. de 2023

Re: [Vo]:Pause in AI Development Recommended

2023-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Robin wrote: > > Multiple copies, spread across the Internet, would make it almost >> invulnerable. >> (Assuming a neural network can be "backed up".) >> > > I do not think it would be difficult to find and expurgate copies. They > would be very large. > There is another reason I do