Re: [Vo]:Fly Me to the . . .

2012-03-23 Thread Harry Veeder
I'll go if I can meet the Princess of Barsoom (Mars). Harry On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Mars? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/21/musk_mars_colonization/ Musk muses on middle-class Mars colony Technology ready for $500,000 round trip By

Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR

2012-03-23 Thread Harry Veeder
I noticed he doesn't have problem using the f-word in regards to his own theory, because he calls it Electro-Weak Fusion. Harry On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:19 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: LoL To the dungeon with him! No, burn him... He's obviously possessed or crazy mad! It

Re: [Vo]:Thane Heins continues with his bold claims

2012-03-22 Thread Harry Veeder
, because the conversion of the created kinetic energy into electrical energy destroys the kinetic energy that was created. Harry On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: There is another possibility which probably seems absurd from a logical perspective. What counts

Re: [Vo]:Thane Heins continues with his bold claims

2012-03-22 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder In Thane Heins' system an input of kinetic energy maybe required to keep the system creating more kinetic energy, because the conversion of the created kinetic energy

[Vo]:Thane Heins continues with his bold claims

2012-03-21 Thread Harry Veeder
Thane Heins continues with his bold claims. This is the second video of four videos with a total length of 3 hours. ReGenX generator demonstration, Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrk_7MSSQMwfeature=related At 11 minutes into this video he says his device has been tested by the NRC

Re: [Vo]:Thane Heins continues with his bold claims

2012-03-21 Thread Harry Veeder
trying to get knowledgeable engineers to believe in this one.                Dave                -Original Message-                From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com                To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com                Sent: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 6:52 pm                Subject

Re: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-reactor

2012-03-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote: post #3 intermediate note. The case of Case. He is definitely not your typical scientist. He is/was a practitioner with 30years experience, and as such one does not so much rely on theory but on intuition.

[Vo]:Cold Fusion Now exclusive video interview with Andrea Rossi

2012-03-12 Thread Harry Veeder
Cold Fusion Now exclusive video interview with Andrea Rossi (recorded in Florida March 2, 2012) http://coldfusionnow.org/?p=15088 Harry

Re: [Vo]:Kara

2012-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?(Anime) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO8-PXYTgnM Harry On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Amazin' PS3-rendered vid: http://www.gizmag.com/quantic-dream-kara-ps3-demo/21773/ T

Re: [Vo]:Florida Investigates Rossi

2012-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think the Rossi ever claimed there is a nuclear reaction in his device. Are you serious? You must be restricted the meaning of claim to Rossi commercial aspirations. Harry

[Vo]:Cold Fusion Demonstration During MIT Short Course

2012-03-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Cold Fusion Demonstration During MIT Short Course by Christy L. Frazier http://​www.infinite-energy.com/​iemagazine/issue102/​mitdemo.html This suggests that loading and high surface area are not essential for robust LENR: The activation of this cold fusion reaction is, for the first time,

Re: [Vo]:The Vort Collective, collectively speaking, possess many collective Hive Minds!

2012-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Since each bee has its own brain, this hive model suggests each neuron in our brain has its own brain. But i don't think that is how they want their model interpreted. Instead, the individual bee is assumed to be brainless. But if the individual bee is brainless, are they really modelling a brain

Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Message- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:25 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Physice depends on choice of coordinates

2012-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
At the top of the cited wiki page, it starts with the simplifying assumption of *point* charges. Perhaps the discrepancy would disappear with a more realistic model of charges. I dunno. Ask a mathematician. Harry On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:03 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I

Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-03-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Harry: From OrionWorks: What I can say is that the new system involves an alternative way of graphing out a periodic orbit - where you plot an elliptical orbit on a TIME-LINE chart. The

Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-02-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:54 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: What I can say is that the new system involves an alternative way of graphing out a periodic orbit - where you plot an elliptical orbit on a TIME-LINE chart. The orbital distance is the Y

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Harry Veeder
expect his response after a direct communication with him. DGT 2012/2/29 Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Defkalion failed to make it clear on their forum that the government representatives have so far only evaluated the Hyperion's safety. Surely, they realize that most people interpreted

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Harry Veeder
The forum is more than a place to answer questions and make annoucements. If Defkalion listened carefully, the forum is telling them how to communicate more effectively with ALL their supporters, not just the adoring fans. The adoring fans and pathological skeptics always seem to roughly balance

Re: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT

2012-02-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Pay attention at this: Experiments directly confirm for the first time that this behavior continues beyond the conventional limit of unity electrical-to-optical power conversion efficiency. It is above the

Re: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT

2012-02-28 Thread Harry Veeder
is at an elevated temperature. harry On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you think it would violate the 2nd law? I don't understand. 2012/2/28 Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Pay

Re: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT

2012-02-28 Thread Harry Veeder
do you think it would violate the 2nd law? I don't understand. 2012/2/28 Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Pay attention at this: Experiments directly confirm for the first time that this behavior continues beyond

Re: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT

2012-02-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com According to the second law you can only get a system to do work  if parts of the system are at different temperatures. In this situation the system is a diode and it does work by converting heat into light. It is hard to tell from the description, but I am

Re: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT

2012-02-28 Thread Harry Veeder
how an ideal black body is suppose to cool. Harry On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If it is a cooler, it appears to violate the first law. If it is an energy converter, it appears to violate the second law. I guess the question is: what

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Defkalion failed to make it clear on their forum that the government representatives have so far only evaluated the Hyperion's safety. Surely, they realize that most people interpreted their vague annoncement of positive results as positive measures of energy gain. Why do we have to learn through

Re: [Vo]:Dick Deal Dead

2012-02-24 Thread Harry Veeder
I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. (guess the movie) Harry On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: He was  just  an  

Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

2012-02-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:03 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: A principled inventor would not accept a penny in damages in exchange for the other company to continue selling the products. A principled inventor would demand that the other company re-call their products, and be

Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

2012-02-24 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:03 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: If I

Re: [Vo]:From a Casimir Newbie: Casimir Force vs. Newtonian Gravity

2012-02-23 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to  Robert Leguillon's message of Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:29:59 -0600: Hi, [snip] I've never delved into Casimir Force, but I have to say, it's really intriguing. As I understand the basic evidence of Casimir Force: experiments

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Harry Veeder
Either Rossi is losing control of his ecat or he is learning to collaborate. Harry On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Who is the new supplier? Ti? BTW I find strange that a customer has such decisional power on a corporate business.  Does

Re: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon

2012-02-22 Thread Harry Veeder
I wondered the same thing. That would be funny if this so called ferro-magnetic carbon was actually iron. They must have checked for the presence of iron... ??? Harry On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Michael Foster mf...@yahoo.com wrote: This work is based on the assumption that there is no iron

[Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-20 Thread Harry Veeder
NanoSpire, Inc. Successfully Harnesses Cavitation Zero Point Energy to Produce Dramatic Levels of Fusion Transmutation In Water press release: http://www.1888pressrelease.com/nanospire-inc-successfully-harnesses-cavitation-zero-point-pr-372884.html company website: http://www.nanospireinc.com/

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Vertical farming in Linköping, Sweden

2012-02-20 Thread Harry Veeder
2012/2/19 Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com: When you say the human population pressure would be reduced, what do you mean? Do you mean there would be fewer hungry people? Yes, and if we could make animal food through chemical processing from CO2 and H2O then we wouldn't require as

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Vertical farming in Linköping, Sweden

2012-02-19 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Photosynthesis is actually a fairly inefficient process. 20GWh of sunlight on a hectare of land over a year might yield 30MWh of Wheat (8,000kg). But if we have cheap power we can make a reasonable proportion

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Vertical farming in Linköping, Sweden

2012-02-19 Thread Harry Veeder
That's great. I hope the operation proves to be profitable. At this time vertical farming should be part of a government funded agricultural research program. Harry On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, First multistory vertical farm is being

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Information regarding Leonardo Corporation’s Commercial License Policy

2012-02-18 Thread Harry Veeder
2012/2/16 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com: So Rossi doesn't take money from investors, but he does take money from the sale of licenses for an unreliable product. Is this a responsible way to run a business? Harry, what's your point? Surely you realize the fact that

[Vo]:OT: Uncovering fraud in a famous 92 yr old psychological experiment

2012-02-17 Thread Harry Veeder
http://chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/a-new-twist-in-the-sad-saga-of-little-albert/28423 A New Twist in the Sad Saga of Little Albert January 25, 2012, 5:12 pm By Tom Bartlett A paper published this month in the journal History of Psychology makes the case that Little Albert was not, as

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Information regarding Leonardo Corporation’s Commercial License Policy

2012-02-16 Thread Harry Veeder
So Rossi doesn't take money from investors, but he does take money from the sale of licenses for an unreliable product. Is this a responsible way to run a business? Harry On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: Hello group, This is straight from JONP.

[Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Dust fusion ? Part 1 has Part 1, 11min http://youtu.be/57ap7iow1c0 In a real time demonstration George Egely claims carbon can be transformed into iron using a microwave oven. He tests graphite powder before and after the procedure with a magnet for presence of iron. Part 2, 14min

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Is a woman suppose to feel embarressed for trying to breast feed her baby in a public venue? harry On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Jed: Stirling Allen wrote: . . . I walked by a group of younger people milling about

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will eventually be revealed. You don't think they have already been revealed? Unless he suddenly discovers the value of collaboration

Re: [Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
If it is iron, and not just magnetic carbon, it should also rust. Where is his rust test? ;-) Harry On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: I gather Mr. Egely is claiming he is actually transmuting graphite (carbon) into iron with the

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Harry: Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will eventually be revealed. You don't think they have already been revealed? No. All I've seen is endless

Re: [Vo]:Rob Duncan comments on Rossi

2012-02-13 Thread Harry Veeder
/clients.html Moab On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:  “The success rate is about 20 percent, so we know the conditions must be very specific,” David Robertson, an MU chemistry professor who’s going to be involved in the project, said in a statement. “It’s a hit

Re: [Vo]:Rob Duncan comments on Rossi

2012-02-12 Thread Harry Veeder
“The success rate is about 20 percent, so we know the conditions must be very specific,” David Robertson, an MU chemistry professor who’s going to be involved in the project, said in a statement. “It’s a hit-or-miss reaction, which is the reason why we’re trying to understand it, and we’re using

Re: [Vo]:Re: FYI: CERN Recognizes LENRs, Widom-Larsen Theory

2012-02-09 Thread Harry Veeder
This was added today Please note that this event will be available live via the Webcast Service. Harry On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: found the entry at CERN http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=177379 2012/2/8 Alain Sepeda

Re: [Vo]:Google insights seem to show waning interest for NET and W-L

2012-02-06 Thread Harry Veeder
For a longer term perspective check google's Ngram which analyzes all digitized material. Interstingly the term 'cold fusion' actually goes back to the 1700s. The early references show that it was used to identify a particular metalsmithing process.

Re: [Vo]:Google insights seem to show waning interest for NET and W-L

2012-02-06 Thread Harry Veeder
google's Ngram analyzes all digitized material. Interstingly the term 'cold fusion' actually goes back to the 1700s. he references identify a particular metalsmithing process. http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=cold+fusionyear_start=1750year_end=2000corpus=0smoothing=3 Harry

[Vo]:Rupert Sheldrake: the 'heretic' at odds with scientific dogma

2012-02-05 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/feb/05/rupert-sheldrake-interview-science-delusion?newsfeed=true Rupert Sheldrake: the 'heretic' at odds with scientific dogma ...he suggests, scientists are prone to the recurrent fantasy of omniscience. The science delusion, in these terms, consists in

Re: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

2012-02-03 Thread Harry Veeder
IMO, the quest to explain origin of inertia (mass) in terms of an energy field (higgs field) is topsy-turvy, because historically and logically the concept of inertia is more basic than than the concept energy. Energy is a derived concept. It is like trying to explain the origin of Judaism in

Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:54 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote: If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran much longer would it qualify as a true FE device? If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise

[Vo]:The roots of global warming science

2012-02-02 Thread Harry Veeder
The solar heat possesses... the power of crossing an atmosphere; but, when the heat is absorbed by the planet, it is so changed in quality that the rays emanating from the planet cannot get with the same freedom back into space. Thus, the atmosphere admits of the entrance of the solar heat, but

Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-02 Thread Harry Veeder
In the comment section one person suggested it is powered by compressed air. Harry On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex-L: I  have a strong dislike for Magnet Motors VideosBUT...this one seems to have gone viral 267,500+ hits --with

Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-02 Thread Harry Veeder
If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran much longer would it qualify as a true FE device? Harry On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:29 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: A couple of Free Energy prizes exist.  How about a prize for an elegant fake FE machine?   No

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion..openly demonstrated at MIT

2012-02-01 Thread Harry Veeder
No pictures of the demonstration? harry On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex: http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html Great news, Ron Kita, Chiralex

[Vo]:LENR research posted at CERN

2012-01-31 Thread Harry Veeder
searching LENR on the CERN website http://cernsearch.web.cern.ch/cernsearch/Default.aspx?query=LENRcollections=WebPages|People|CDS|Indico|TwikiPages Harry

Re: [Vo]:Ball Lightning 2012: call for papers

2012-01-30 Thread Harry Veeder
Awesome! Harry On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:38 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: Russian YouTube shows a video film of airborne BL lasting 40+ seconds during thunderstorm at:

Re: [Vo]:RE: Defkalion video of internal testing

2012-01-30 Thread Harry Veeder
Practically speaking, *power* on demand is what a user wants. Significant energy production would suggest that the device can supply power on demand. Most people have no use for the concept of *energy*, except theoretical fizzists and ultility companies who charge per unit of energy consumed.

[Vo]:The Believers - Documentary about CF History.

2012-01-30 Thread Harry Veeder
- http://www.137films.org/NewsDetailPage/Work-in-progress-screening. The Believers test screening February 11 Work-in-Progress Screening of The Believers at The Gene Siskel Film Center If you've been waiting to see our new film, The Believers, now is your chance! The Chicago Council

Re: [Vo]:The Believers - Documentary about CF History.

2012-01-30 Thread Harry Veeder
sorry, the correct link is http://www.137films.org/NewsDetailPage/Work-in-progress-screening.aspx Harry On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: - http://www.137films.org/NewsDetailPage/Work-in-progress-screening. The Believers test screening

[Vo]:Quantum Nonlocality Does Not Imply Entanglement Distillability

2012-01-30 Thread Harry Veeder
So I guess this means non-locality can exist without entanglement. Harry --- Article Quantum physicists shed new light on relation between entanglement and nonlocality http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-quantum-physicists-entanglement-nonlocality.html Paper Quantum Nonlocality Does Not

Re: [Vo]:The Garbage Collection of a Fool's Imagination

2012-01-24 Thread Harry Veeder
Analysis of the design using established physics predicts that it will not exhibit pertual motion when it is built. It also goes without saying that you can't expect to design a perpertuum mobile using established physics. If the built device did exhibit perpertual motion, then it would be by luck

Re: [Vo]:The Eight Hour Rule

2012-01-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. It's an itty-bitty space heater at the EON Factory. The address is in the patent. I had some difficulty believing that. Then Forcardi talked about going to the factory and seeing the gadget, in one of his

Re: [Vo]:Migrate Vortex-l to a Forum format.

2012-01-23 Thread Harry Veeder
I think it would benefit everyone if all members were limited to 4 or 5 posts per day. harry On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it makes sense to migrate this mailing list into a

Re: [Vo]:University testing of the E-cat question asked on Rossi blog

2012-01-22 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi has made tremendous contributions to humanity, so stop kvetching about his foibles. They make no difference. With respect to Rossi's own measure that commercial success matters above all else, he has yet to make

Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment

2012-01-22 Thread Harry Veeder
There was never any hard evidence it had been moved. Terry ( I think) remarked on voretx a day or so after the test that a tractor trailer drove off with it as if someone witnessed the departure, but he was really just extrapolating. Harry On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Shaun Taylor

Re: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment

2012-01-22 Thread Harry Veeder
ahh thanks for that reminder! So in a sense I added to the lie. Sorry folks. Harry (Damn that talking dog!) harry On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: There was never any hard

[Vo]:OT: BBB, BRB, BGB, BYB...

2012-01-22 Thread Harry Veeder
Rossi's BBB will fit right in... http://youtu.be/FHyqj_OdjNo Harry

Re: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com

2012-01-19 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Energy Liberator energylibera...@gmail.com wrote: It's also possible Rossi was expecting the plant to be shipped when he made that comment after which he and the customer decided to leave the plant where it was and work on it in Bologna. This is why one

Re: [Vo]:Forbes and Gibbs Garbage: NASA says Cold Fusion is Nothing Useful

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: At 01:12 PM 1/17/2012, ***  Craig Brown *** wrote: I think the question here is WHY?  Why release a video saying LENR is looking good as a powerful replacement for conventional fossil fuels, then when questioned about it,

Re: [Vo]:Joe Zawodny comments on the Nasa LENR video

2012-01-16 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately his expert opinion will be used to futher delay investment in LENR research in favour of pouring more money into god particles

Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote: Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was produced not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but also when it was unloaded. A kind of homeopathy? harry

Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote: Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was produced not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but also when it was unloaded. A kind of homeopathy? I guess it shows

Re: [Vo]:Joe Zawodny comments on the Nasa LENR video

2012-01-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Unfortunately his expert opinion will be used to futher delay investment in LENR research in favour of pouring more money into god particles and hot fusion. harry On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat

Re: [Vo]:1MW delay

2012-01-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Another guess...If it is a military organization, based in (North) America and starts with the letter N, maybe its NORAD. NORAD could use a LENR power plant to power their underground bunkers. Harry On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote: AG, I am just

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's pricing mismatch is really gross

2012-01-14 Thread Harry Veeder
At this time I bet being in certification means Rossi is in discussions with the certifier to see if the test environment can be secured. Harry On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: Steven, I have been involved with UL certification. You first send

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

2012-01-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Sorry I was mislead by my cynicism. Santilli is sincere and credentialed. I guess he became litigious after having to endure the label fringe scientist for years. The link to his complaint against Infinite Energy is dead. Harry On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

2012-01-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Snubbed by mainstream, scrappy scientist sues The Palm Harbor man wants the courts to force his detractors to take his ideas seriously. By CARRIE WEIMAR Published May 9, 2007 TAMPA - Ruggero Santilli is frustrated. After a long career as an academic, the Palm Harbor physicist says he isn't

[Vo]:Mock paper

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
A pretend paper mocking LENR research. Harry PROCEEDINGS OF THE THIRD INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON LIE-ADMISSIBLE TREATMENT OF IRREVERSIBLE PROCESSES (ICLATIP - 3) Kathmandu University, Nepal, April (2011) pages 163-177 http://www.santilli-foundation.org/docs/ICNF-3.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
why doesn't he just pay Rossi 200 000 if the test is successful? harry On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Casual readers may have missed this. The story here is that someone has apparently gone from Australia to Italy to visit Rossi and test the

Re: [Vo]:Mock paper

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: A pretend paper mocking LENR research. Harry PROCEEDINGS OF THE THIRD INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON LIE-ADMISSIBLE TREATMENT OF IRREVERSIBLE PROCESSES (ICLATIP - 3) Kathmandu University, Nepal, April (2011) pages 163-177

Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
You mean he wants to get a tax credit? harry On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: why doesn't he just pay Rossi 200 000 if the test is successful? It's free money for charity

Re: [Vo]:Mock paper

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone tell me if this a sincere paper? Perhaps I have grown cynical over the last year, because of Rossi's dismissal of scientific practice and the new level of secrecy surrounding LENR research, but I'm remain very skeptical

Re: [Vo]:Mock paper

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
only a few seconds; or it might have tripped a pressure relief valve first and then was shut down.  He is claiming nuclear reactions with no harmful radiation... -Mark -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:12 PM

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

2012-01-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Harry wrote: On the contrary, don't you think it is indicative that positive and negative charge are more than simply opposites of each other? The difference between the charges is related to mass and

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Maybe Brillouin Energy? But they are dull because, unlike Rossi, they don't blog. ;-) Harry On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: On 12-01-11 02:53 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: Peter,     Rossi is already one of many – the new

Re: [Vo]:The Space Show revisited: A Carpet Bombing approach to debating

2012-01-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: “For most, theory is a transparent box…   Those inside don’t know they’re inside, or that there’s even an outside!” -me Nice. When theory becomes a virtual dungeon. Harry

[Vo]:Recent developments in US patent law

2012-01-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Physics Today Recent developments in US patent law Patrick M. Boucher January 2012, page 27 http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/PT.3.1397 ...Since its early history, the US has operated under a “first-to-invent” patent system in which the question of who wins the race to the patent office is less

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

2012-01-10 Thread Harry Veeder
I sometime speculate that the electron and the proton are drops of a mix of two electric fluids, which on balance have a corresponding net negative or a net positive charge. Another idea is that there is universal ambient electric fuild, and the difference between the proton and the electron

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

2012-01-10 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I know this has been discussed in the past years, but I'd like to put this thought out there for the Vorts who joined in the last 12 months... What is electric 'charge'? Yes, yes, I know what it is according

Re: [Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

2012-01-09 Thread Harry Veeder
I wonder if stress induced NTC plays a role in the production of neutrons detected by Cardone et al. at the moment granite fractures under load: paper http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0903/0903.3104.pdf slide show http://files.splinder.com/4ae1443c64aa2e0faf9cdca00d8e7148.pdf Harry On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

2012-01-09 Thread Harry Veeder
The ratio is not exactly 1836. from wikipedia In physics, the proton-to-electron mass ratio, μ or β, is simply the rest mass of the proton divided by that of the electron. Because this is a ratio of like-dimensioned physical quantity, it is a dimensionless quantity, a function of the

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

2012-01-09 Thread Harry Veeder
The ratio is also dimensionless but the ratio of the strength of the sun's electrostatic field to its gravitational field is not dimensionless. Harry On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Harry sez: The ratio is not exactly 1836. I

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

2012-01-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Steven and Mark, Yes that is what I mean. More to the point we take it for granted that gravitational forces can be compared to electrostatic forces. But what are we doing when we say gravity is so much weaker than electromagnetism? This truth is repeated often but I would argue it is a persistent

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel

2012-01-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea Rossi has a patent in Italy which is enforceable in the entire EU. No. 0001387256 Of course, one must have the funds to defend any patent.  

Re: [Vo]:Celani to announce a possible marker of anomalous heat production in LENR

2012-01-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-01-06 02:52, Harry Veeder wrote: In plain language is Celani saying he found the electrical resistance of the wire decreases with increasing temperature *if* the wire is loaded with hydrogen? Exactly

[Vo]:OT:Deus Ex Machina

2012-01-06 Thread Harry Veeder
(wikipedia) The deus ex machina is often considered to be a poor storytelling technique by critics because it undermines the story's internal logic, although it is sometimes employed deliberately for this reason. Following Aristotle, Renaissance critics continued to view the deus ex machina as an

Re: [Vo]:America's first jet flight Oct 1942

2012-01-06 Thread Harry Veeder
I like how a dummy wooden prop was used to disguised the aircraft's secret propulsion system. Harry On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.aircraftowner.com/videos/view/americas-first-jet-flight-october-1942_1617.html

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: What concept is that, exactly?  That someone can continue to make huge claims, present no or insufficient evidence for an entire year and then expect some sort of credibility or

Re: [Vo]:Celani to announce a possible marker of anomalous heat production in LENR

2012-01-05 Thread Harry Veeder
In plain language is Celani saying he found the electrical resistance of the wire decreases with increasing temperature *if* the wire is loaded with hydrogen? harry On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello group, Have a read at the latest

[Vo]:How to watch a nuclear explosion

2012-01-04 Thread Harry Veeder
VIP observers watching the spectacle during Operation Greenhouse at Enewetak Atoll, 1951. http://umanesimo.tumblr.com/post/907321188/monochrom23reich-vip-observers-watching-the Harry

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