RE: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
Jones be fair on people (as we all must be) conversions on the Road to Damascus (St Paul, sh.t not a good analogy) don't happen in infinitesimal time due to finite processes in brains. Like I said, research, like a pop song needs a catchy hook because people won't drop everything quickly when

Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Jones Beene
Remi, RC: The educated would say, Ah we know Dr Messian's work we've been awaiting this symphony. See what I'm getting at? ... not exactly, but I love love music analogies, and will return to this one in a future posting. RC: Now: Preferentially hydrogen (and all the other stuff) should

Re: [Vo]:Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread OrionWorks
Remi sez: ... Preferentially hydrogen (and all the other stuff) should have dropped to the ground state long ago. Which ground state? So why are we all excited? (if you excuse the pun) Don't pull my finger on a cold wintry day after I've walked across the carpet. Why isn't everything

Re: [Vo]:Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels, RE: [Vo]:hydrino lines

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
- Original Message - From: Remi Cornwall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [Vo]:Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels Rename this thread. Very easy to email and be snappy. Sorry Jones, I just don't believe you can drop

Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Mike Carrell
, October 30, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels Remi, RC: The educated would say, Ah we know Dr Messian's work we've been awaiting this symphony. See what I'm getting at? ... not exactly, but I love love music analogies, and will return to this one

RE: [Vo]:Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels, RE: [Vo]:hydrino lines

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
I accept that a lot of stuff goes by under the radar. We are pattern recognition machines and isn't bloody odd that when you buy a car suddenly you keep seeing the same car on the road, in the same colour! But when our Neural nets get programmed to the wrong reason it stays stuck to the wrong

Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Mike Carrell wrote: ... The ground state is simply the relaxed state in a vacuum, neither ionized nor catalyzed. Mills' discovery is that the fractional state can be reached by selective catalysis under special conditions. I have a Very Dumb Question here. Is there a simple, concise

RE: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
changed. How, why? -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 21:12 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels Mike Carrell wrote: ... The ground state is simply the relaxed state in a vacuum

Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Jones Beene
Remi, Stephen: RC: Also Jones, Steven, there's a nice quick proof in Feynman III about the size of atoms where he uses the Uncertainty Principle in a 1/r well. Since the charges are the same, to get any lower must mean that 'h' has changed. How, why? The World According to Mills: The

Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread OrionWorks
Mike Carrell wrote: ... The ground state is simply the relaxed state in a vacuum, neither ionized nor catalyzed. Mills' discovery is that the fractional state can be reached by selective catalysis under special conditions. From Stephen Lawrence: I have a Very Dumb Question here. Is there

RE: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 21:37 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels Remi, Stephen: RC: Also Jones, Steven, there's a nice quick proof in Feynman III about the size of atoms where he uses the Uncertainty Principle

RE: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
I give another example of howlers I've seen where people then go and run off on a wild goose chase with faulty underlying assumptions: #1 A man builds some kind of trolled with two rotating arms which swing around in synchrony. He tries it on ice and sees that is moves around. He puts it on a

Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Jones Beene
Remi, Most of the problem you are having with this is that for Mills,electrons are not infinitesimal points nor probability waves surrounding infinitesimal point particles. To quote the introductory material on HSG: electrons are spinning 2D electric and magnetic flux surfaces

RE: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
will get him. -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 23:23 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels Remi, Most of the problem you are having with this is that for Mills,electrons are not infinitesimal

RE: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
at that point. -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 23:23 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels Remi, Most of the problem you are having with this is that for Mills,electrons are not infinitesimal

Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Carrell wrote: ... The ground state is simply the relaxed state in a vacuum, neither ionized nor catalyzed. Mills' discovery is that the fractional state can be reached by selective catalysis under special

RE: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels

2008-10-30 Thread Remi Cornwall
I UNSUBSCRIBE TO THIS. SCIENCE NOT SCIENCE FICTION. -Original Message- From: Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 23:56 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Mills' recapitalisation of energy levels - Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence