RE: [Vo]: f13C or faux13C

2017-09-05 Thread JonesBeene
Interesting comments here, thanks. I do believe that NMR is the way to go for easiest and most reliable detection, especially with carbon. Pure carbon should have only one peak – 13C. Nothing else. Basically there would be two kinds of carbon to test – old and young. Old carbon as defined

RE: [Vo]: f13C or faux13C

2017-09-05 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
<mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 9:25 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]: f13C or faux13C As I understand it, there are two hydrino-like transitions that could occur, perhaps on a 12C atom. Suppose that the 12C is subject

[Vo]: f13C or faux13C

2017-09-04 Thread Bob Higgins
As I understand it, there are two hydrino-like transitions that could occur, perhaps on a 12C atom. Suppose that the 12C is subject to catalytic hydrino formation wherein one of its electron enters a (1/p) state. Such an electron would enter an orbital around the nucleus that is smaller than the

Re: [Vo]:f13C or faux13C

2017-08-28 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Sun, 27 Aug 2017 16:26:31 -0700: Hi, Following on from Bob's comments, it occurs to me that a small neutral Hydrino, which has large magnetic moment, might be attracted to nuclei, with an odd mass number, magnetically. The force of attraction would increase as

Re: [Vo]:f13C or faux13C

2017-08-27 Thread Axil Axil
What might carry the Ultra dense hydrogen in the Rossi fuel is its lithium content. A method used in hydogen storage is nanoconfinement where lithium hydride is encapsulated in other material to protect it. The lithium particles in the Lugano fuel assay had many other elements incorporated in its

Re: [Vo]:f13C or faux13C

2017-08-27 Thread Axil Axil
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2016/ph241/yoon1/ The Curious Story of the Muon-Catalyzed Fusion Reaction The Curious fact is that LENR produces mostly muons from the energy that it generates from nuclear reactions and very little heat. These muons push out covalent electrons that bind

RE: [Vo]:f13C or faux13C

2017-08-27 Thread JonesBeene
Hi Bob, Thanks for your analysis and let me clear up one detail. I did not make it clear enough that I am not suggesting the Holmlid version, nor the Mills version, nor the Miley version of dense hydrogen - but a composite, where the charged UDH- is a negative particle (aka hydrino hydride)

[Vo]:f13C or faux13C

2017-08-27 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, There seems to be a number of flaws in this hypothesis. First of all, the only way a shrunken neutral hydrogen can "hang around" in an atom of 12C is if it has become in range of the strong force of the nucleus. In that case, it would become a part of the nucleus and would be ripped to

[Vo]:f13C or faux13C

2017-08-27 Thread JonesBeene
Here is a premise which may be worth consideration, even if the evidence for it is not yet certain and the details are fluid. After all, this is vortex – not Fusion Technology… plus… the proposition is falsifiable, should it gather any traction. The premise involves the isotope carbon-13 and