Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Che
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > Time symmetry requires that the laws of nature operate the same when time > goes either forward or backwards. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_translation_symmetry > This typical thinking assumes much. Like 'doing the

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Axil Axil
What the Rossi experiments has shown over many years is that LENR in a lattice is not workable because the reaction cannot be controlled. The LENR reaction wants to operate at the boiling point of the metal lattice (nickel) which is 3000K. Rossi has struggled to control the LENR reaction at low

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Axil Axil
Time symmetry requires that the laws of nature operate the same when time goes either forward or backwards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_translation_symmetry To the best of my knowledge, most physicists don't believe that antimatter is *actually* matter moving backwards in time. It's not

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Axil Axil
Whenever muons appear, fusion of light elements will occur and fission of heavy elements will happen. So fusion could be a secondary reaction set up by the primary reaction which is the creation of muons. Muons can be produced in two ways, one... they could be a product on nucleon decay, and

RE: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
be very high energy photons exceeding most gamma radiation. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 5:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR The Fredericks work is with

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Jones Beene
The Fredericks work is with photographic emulsion, which is a light-sensitive chemical reaction used in photography. That kind of film is much easier to expose and consequently it has limited usefulness for LENR. Even body heat from the experimenter's handling can produce fogging. X-ray film

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Why does it matter that this was NOT electrolysis? Didn't Arrata load up his cells with pycnodeuterium and no power input? On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Che wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > > IMHO, the person

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Che
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Axil Axil wrote: IMHO, the person who has done the best work is Keith A. Fredericks at > http://restframe.com/ > > > Keith does not know what he is seeing has comes about, but he does > understand how the metalized hydride behaves. > > Keith

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Nigel Dyer
I am not sure why there being no advantage for deuterium means that this was not cold fusion. If there was a fusion process in these situations that started with protons then would this also not be cold fusion? Given that we are in a territory that is far removed from the standard plasma

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Axil Axil
more... In the proton 21 case, no hydrogen is present. So the perplexing thing for me to understand is that both nanowires and metalized hydrogen look and perform identically in these emission studies. In order to preface Keith Fredericks' video, a proviso is offered. In order to get the

Re: [Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-03 Thread Axil Axil
Holmlid has explained that metalized hydrogen is a superatom where the positive charge carriers are located in the center of the crystal and the negative charged carriers are located in a cloud orbiting around the positive center. This metalized structure is an example of HOLE

[Vo]:A forgotten chapter in LENR

2017-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
In the early days of cold fusion (early 1990s) there were dozens of papers on so-called "low energy emissions" which happened merely from loading or exposure of hydrogen to both nickel and palladium - and often with no other input power being used. This was NOT electrolysis. Many of the