Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Some questions for you and other self-appointed experts here: This remark seems to have some emotional content. Darn right it does. I am annoyed. DO you know of any requirement for anyone here on vortex-l to be

Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi Jed, On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: However, experts skilled in the art have said that Galantini's methods are correct. Did Galantini know whats inside the tower? Did these experts know whats inside? Did the experts get true and complete detail informations? Did they

Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: However, experts skilled in the art have said that Galantini's methods are correct. Did Galantini know whats inside the tower? Did these experts know whats inside? They say they looked inside it. They saw nothing unexpected or unusual.

Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: People who tell it like it is look sophomoric, in my opinion. People who are dismissive run the risk of being themselves dismissed. It is better to leave some room to retreat in case it turns out you are wrong. What is so bad about being wrong.

Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 23.09.2011 23:29, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: However, experts skilled in the art have said that Galantini's methods are correct. Did Galantini know whats inside the tower? Did these

Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: Here is an interesting treatise on being wrong: http://www.amazon.com/Being-Wrong-Adventures-Margin-Error/dp/0061176044 It seems to be human nature to want to be right about what it is that we chose to pontificate on. Unfortunately, arriving at certain opinions seems to be one of

[Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Jed Rothwell wrote: » In the first test, Galantini used a Delta Ohm monitor to measure the relative humidity of the steam. This is a model HD37AB1347 IAQ with a high temperature HP474AC SICRAM sensor. See: http://www.deltaohm.com/ver2010/uk/st_airQ.php?str=HD37AB1347 The brochure and the

Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 22.09.2011 14:32 Betreff: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe Jed Rothwell wrote: » In the first test, Galantini used a Delta Ohm monitor to measure the relative

Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Now what happens, when an inventor without deep knowledge and experience constructs a steam device, makes it unaccessible and then lets unexperienced scientist measure the steam? Most scientists expect that devices that they use are properly constructed and work

Aw: Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 22.09.2011 15:53 Betreff: Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Now what happens, when an inventor without deep knowledge

Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Jouni Valkonen
...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 22.09.2011 15:53 Betreff: Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Now what happens, when an inventor without deep knowledge

Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Now what happens, when an inventor without deep knowledge and experience constructs a steam device, makes it unaccessible and then lets unexperienced scientist measure the steam? Most scientists expect that

Re: Aw: Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:24 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 22.09.2011 15:53 Betreff: Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote

Re: [Vo]: About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Jouni Valkonen
quality/ecc from a RH reading. I challenge you. Nobody do it. ISO standard is to condensate the steam. From: Jouni Valkonen Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:45 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe Peter, in order to measure

Re: [Vo]: About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Mattia Rizzi
, September 22, 2011 4:45 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe Peter, in order to measure the enthalpy you need to know the mass flow of steam. This is not known therefore humidity sensor gives only the amount of liquid water in suspension

Re: [Vo]: About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Joe Catania
Who knows enough about sound velocity in various quality steam? - Original Message - From: Jouni Valkonen To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: About measurement of steam with Galantini probe Mattia, you can also measure

Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Some questions for you and other self-appointed experts here: This remark seems to have some emotional content. Darn right it does. I am annoyed. DO you know of any requirement for anyone here on vortex-l to be an expert to comment? Not to comment. I have no