Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-27 Thread Robert Lynn
That was my initial reaction too. But recuperated transcritical CO2 Brayton can hit up to about 70-75% of Carnot efficiency (higher at higher temperatures due to basically fixed temperature difference in recuperation), and is actually more efficient than a practical Stirling can manage (Stirling

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-27 Thread Corey Hahn
Robert said: All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power plant machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper and can withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam. Do you have any evidence of this? I have been looking for

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-27 Thread fznidarsic
-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 8:33 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more Robert said: All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power plant machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper and can

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-27 Thread James Bowery
My response was to Fletcher's suggestion. Note, I didn't say Can't be. in response to _your_ post. ;) I agree. CO2 is most likely. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: That was my initial reaction too. But recuperated transcritical CO2 Brayton

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-27 Thread Corey Hahn
Robert, Did you have any info on GE/Siemens working on S-CO2? I am very interested. Corey On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: That was my initial reaction too. But recuperated transcritical CO2 Brayton can hit up to about 70-75% of Carnot

[Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/02/rossi-siemens-ag-helping-with-leonardo-corp-with-efficient-electricity-generation/ *Electrical Production* Rossi reported on what he considered a significant breakthrough in the area of electrical production. He said that just a few days ago Siemens

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-26 Thread Wolf Fischer
As long as there is not at least a press release from Siemens about this, i wouldn't consider this being more than some very early discussions about a potential future working relation. Wolf

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-26 Thread Robert Lynn
This might be possible with supercritical CO2, though not in sizes less than about 100kW. Most definitely not steam On 26 February 2012 21:43, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote: As long as there is not at least a press release from Siemens about this, i wouldn't consider this being more

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-26 Thread Alan Fletcher
SST-040 looks a good candidate : 300kW from 1MW http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/steam-turbines/sst-040.htm The newly developed predesigned steam turbine SST-040 is a generator drive specially designed for the 75-300 kW power range. This favorably priced turbine features a

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

2012-02-26 Thread James Bowery
Can't be. Rossi's inlet temperature is 524K. With an outlet temperature at 373K (100C) the maximum Carnot efficiency is only 29%. On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: SST-040 looks a good candidate : 300kW from 1MW