On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
They weighed it before the warm-up period.
But heating a brick eCat into 100°C takes about 20 MJ energy. And as there
was additional heat loss due to poor insulation
Hear, hear!
Jed: I have had it with Mary Yugo.
I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list.
Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd
behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius.
We hear, hear what we want to believe in.
It would appear that
I am impressed that so many Vorts support Mary Yugo's participation...
that's proof of balanced, fairly civil discussion... diarrhea or
constipation of thought, that is the question... ?
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:56 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Hear,
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/10/nasa-engineer-explains-why-rossi-demos-failed/
...Brian Ahern, a researcher with expertise in LENR, wrote to *New Energy
Times* with a concise summary of the recent Oct. 28 Rossi demo:
“Rossi has been clever enough to change the trick on each successive
This thread is full of strawman arguments. No one is defending Rossi's
behavior, least of all me. We are saying:
His claims can be evaluated independently of his behavior, based strictly
on the laws of physics. This is true even though his experimental
techniques are sloppy.
His business
Granted that Rossi is producing anomalous heat, nevertheless absolutely
everything else about this story stinks to high heaven. The conundrum which
nobody can decipher is why someone with a real effect, or a scammer, would
operate in such a bizarre manner. The only conclusion left is that the
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
Granted that Rossi is producing anomalous heat, nevertheless absolutely
everything else about this story stinks to high heaven.
Except the fundamental physics, and the fact that a 30 L poorly insulated
vessel of water cannot stay at boiling
On Nov 14, 2011, at 20:12, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi can be devious, but I have not seen any evidence that he lies about
engineering data.
Except that you wrote
Mind you, the list of his statements we compiled
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Except the fundamental physics, and the fact that a 30 L poorly insulated
vessel of water cannot stay at boiling temperature for 4 hours.
It most certainly can, if it weighs 100 kg, and consists in part of fire
brick,
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi can be devious, but I have not seen *any* evidence that he lies about
engineering data.
Except that you wrote
Mind you, the list of his statements we compiled includes some
diametrically opposite assertions:
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Except the fundamental physics, and the fact that a 30 L poorly insulated
vessel of water cannot stay at boiling temperature for 4 hours.
It most certainly can, if it weighs 100 kg, and consists in part of fire
brick, or something similar, and
This may be a double posting . . .
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Except the fundamental physics, and the fact that a 30 L poorly insulated
vessel of water cannot stay at boiling temperature for 4 hours.
It most certainly can, if it weighs 100 kg, and consists in part of fire
Granted that Rossi is producing anomalous heat, nevertheless absolutely
everything else about this story stinks to high heaven. The conundrum which
nobody can decipher is why someone with a real effect, or a scammer, would
operate in such a bizarre manner. The only conclusion left is that the
Except the fundamental physics, and the fact that a 30 L poorly insulated
vessel of water cannot stay at boiling temperature for 4 hours.
I disagree that the large E-cat module was ever properly inspected. For
sure, nobody saw what was inside the finned rectangular portion in the
interior.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Except the fundamental physics, and the fact that a 30 L poorly insulated
vessel of water cannot stay at boiling temperature for 4 hours.
It most certainly can, if it weighs
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
They weighed it before the warm-up period.
But heating a brick eCat into 100°C takes about 20 MJ energy. And as there
was additional heat loss due to poor insulation some 300-700 watts and also
substantial water leak. These basic heat losses that never
I believe that the water leaks were at the top seal, and would only have come
into play when the E-Cat was effectively overflowing. They would not contribute
to net energy loss during the proposed heat storage
Also, the only measured primary flow before the rate was increased (for
quenching)
I have had it with Mary Yugo.
I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list.
Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd
behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius.
Rossi seems like a scammer to me. Of course, I hope he really has
come up with a
I perfectly agree with you and consider that what Mary Yugo says is a
necessary and useful part of the broad spectrum of opinions re Rossi.
Being a convinced feminist, I think ladies can be rational and very
smart and good scientists technologists so I will abstain from asking her
unpolitely if
Am 13.11.2011 19:15, schrieb Vorl Bek:
I have had it with Mary Yugo.
I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list.
Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd
behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius.
Rossi seems like a scammer to me. Of course, I hope
In reply to Peter Heckert's message of Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:51:08 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
Andrea Rossi
*
November 13th, 2011 at 9:34 AM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=32#comment-117942
Dear Bernie Koppenhofer:
Yes, we are working on this issue with
On 11/13/2011 1:15 PM, Vorl Bek wrote:
I have had it with Mary Yugo.
I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list.
Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd
behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius.
I have no idea if Rossi is a scammer or if he
Hear, hear!
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Kyle Mcallister
kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.comwrote:
On 11/13/2011 1:15 PM, Vorl Bek wrote:
Jed: I have had it with Mary Yugo.
I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list.
Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd
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