Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

There is another possibility: Photogeneration of mesons from nuclei, I have a suspicion this might be what Holmlid believes is occurring I the UDD. Interestingly this effect is caused by exciting a nucleon resonance for example the Delta resonance which effectively "opens the door" for meson

RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

=15=0=slides=8903 (interesting Neutrino interactions) From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:21:52 +0100 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com There is another possibility: Photogeneration of mesons from nuclei, I have a suspicion

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

e > directly as a result of it? I suppose we will have to wait for new high tech > equipment to see that. > > But maybe there is another mechanism too. (Hopefully not involving any > Gorillas ;) ) > > It is interesting that this test it may give us a window on CP violation

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Stephen Cooke wrote: If Kaons are produced in these devices it's astonishing to imagine a local > low energy source generating the same conditions to spawn Phi Mesons from > nucleons, as the high energy cyclotrons used by DAPhiNE and

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Good point. That's very true too. Those people at the frontier of experimentation like Holmlid and putting together new knowledge in new and novel ways like yourself Axil are rare individual and way ahead of most of us. I agree we should not hold them back with the burden of external

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ion is sufficient to stimulate further K0 production in other Ni62 or Fe58 Nuclei. From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:56:52 +0100 Yup I agree with you Axil although I am no expert on these matter

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Ni62 or Fe58 Nuclei. From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:56:52 +0100 Yup I agree with you Axil although I am no expert on these matters I also don't know of anyway they could be generated

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t; some Kaons still be generated and tunnel in these nuclei? Or could they be > generated but interact with the nucleons within their parent nuclei, and > cause nucleon disintegration and generate +/- K and locally. > > Just some thoughts probably there are still holes in the idea. > >

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isk of Gamma from its decay, Sulphur poisoning +/- Pion production? I appreciate he was probably indicating oxides were creating better NAE for fusion rather than considering pion production. From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT D

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tion? I > appreciate he was probably indicating oxides were creating better NAE for > fusion rather than considering pion production. > > > > -- > From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mes

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Stephen Cooke wrote: "*** If I understand correctly there are no sufficiently heavy elements > available in Holmlids experiment for Kaons to form this way? …" > > This is not strictly correct. [ ... snip ... ] > Ni 62 and Fe 58 would

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

Not really, I'm more thinking about initially generating individual neutral mesons or +/- pairs from decay of highly excited nuclei, with no actual nucleon disintegration before some other kind of decay can occur, which might be almost as weird. What you are describing is a direct nucleon

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Stephen Cooke wrote: The alternatives are also hard to explain, however: > There is another alternative you didn't mention -- Holmlid has a fertile imagination and is confused and needs to pull in someone who knows how to measure

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LENR is topological in nature. Shapes are important rather than material. Mills lists most of the periodic table as having catalytic activity. Piantelli says the same thing about substrates. LENR converts light into dipole motion. The catalysts produce nanoparticles dynamically. The gas must be a

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I don't think that there are experts in particles created in condensed matter physics. Holmlid is the first. We can't wait for experts to develop out of the vacuum. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Stephen Cooke wrote: > Yup with due respect to Holmlid who obviously

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

Yup with due respect to Holmlid who obviously has good well developed expertise in the field and years of experience and analysis behind him, we nevertheless cannot know for sure until other experts are brought in to witness and process the raw data and ideally the test is repeated

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Well if Kaons are present on the up side we always thought something strange was going on in this process. Although energetically there is enough rest mass in Deuterium to produce a Kaon through some kind of low energy or collective trigger for the nucleons to trigger can it account for the

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Yup I was also wondering about the different quarks in the Kaons. Was the signature in their data clear? Or was there some other reason they inferred Kaons as well as Pions? Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Oct 2015, at 08:03, Axil Axil wrote: > > K−, negatively charged

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K−, negatively charged (containing a strange quark and an up antiquark) has mass 493.667±0.013 MeV and mean lifetime (1.2384±0.0024)×10−8 s. K+ (antiparticle of above) positively charged (containing an up quark and a strange antiquark) must (by CPT invariance) have mass and lifetime equal to that

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When 10 billion kaons are produced simultaneously and instantly after photons from a laser arrives, how does the kaon formation process know to break up the arriving energy into kaon sized chunks. It seems that this creation process is the inverse of the gamma absorption process. On Mon, Oct 26,

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Axil Axil wrote: I think that it is but is is being sent backward in time. > Positrons? Sounds dangerous. Eric

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Holmlid says that the the reaction is delayed by 26ns for deuterium and 52 ns for protium. This means that the reaction is produced by a decay product of the K mesons. The 10 billion kaons are produced simultaneously. Positrons are seen but no gamma. This is important. This means that the

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

The LENR reaction effect are long range with the detector being 3 meters for the source of the reaction. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > The reaction changes based on the color of the filter that is used on the > laser. The time to change the filter is

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

Good point about the delays, is there a good explanation for the different delays for the two sources 52ns for protium and 26 ns deuterium? Interesting that protium takes exactly twice as long and is half the mass. I appreciate the +/- kaon half life is about 12ns. > On 26 Oct 2015, at

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Wait a minute – the end result of muon decay is an electron (or positron in the case of the antimuon). This is technically not “beta decay” at least not as taught by pedantics. Beta decay is defined as a type of radioactive decay in which a proton is transformed into a neutron, or vice versa,

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The delay or 12, 26, and 52 ns means that the kaons appear before any other particles are produced. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Wait a minute – the end result of muon decay is an electron (or positron > in the case of the antimuon). This is

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The reaction changes based on the color of the filter that is used on the laser. The time to change the filter is 60 seconds. This means that the Hydrogen rydberg matter is long gone on the second and third laser shot. When Cs137 is used as a probe. the reaction produces a spike in the beta decay

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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Axil Axil wrote: In point of fact, Holmlid is producing electrons from nothing in his > experiment. Don't get excited, we are just talking here. > If one applies straightforward logic, there are only three possibilities: - Baryogenesis

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I don't understand how strange and antistrange quarks can come from protons. There would need to be a quark reformatting process involved that can turn matter into different matter and antimatter types instantly. It is easier to accept that light energy from the laser is turned into matter and

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It's psychological. Rydberg matter is Holmlid's baby. He wants his baby to succeed. Like almost all LENR experiments, Holmlid assumes that the means of the reaction is the cause of the LENR reaction. But the cause of the reaction is not Hydrogen Rydberg matter. This stuff only produces the cause.

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Is there proof that an equal amount of positive charge is not being produced at the same time? Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 10:05 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons

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Could generation of +/- s quark pairs be the trigger for nucleon disintegration. Could each pair with an up quark to form kaons and force the disintegration of the nucleons from which the up quark comes? Each s quark has a rest mass of 100MeV. I'm not sure if there is a meson containing an s

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Because all the 10 billion kaons are produced instantaneously, the stuff that produces them must be entangles. Holmlid cryptically says that "entanglement is needed" On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Stephen Cooke wrote: > Good point about the delays, is there a good

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> On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:33, "Jones Beene" wrote: > > Wait a minute – the end result of muon decay is an electron (or positron in > the case of the antimuon). This is technically not “beta decay” at least not > as taught by pedantics. > I'm not sold on the whole meson ->

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inal Message- > From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 10:05 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > &

RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

that this test it may give us a window on CP violation too Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:42:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com I don't understand how strange and antistrange quarks can come from protons. There would need

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e effect is real. Do you have total > confidence in what Holmlid is reporting? I remain skeptical. > > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 11:03 am > Subj

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Message- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT Holmlid is heaven compared to getting info from Rossi. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:52 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...

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com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 11:03 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT The LENR reaction effect are long range with the detector being 3 meters for the source of the reaction. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@g

[Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

CPT THEOREM C(harge) -P(arity=reflection) -T(ime reversal) INVARIANCE is a property of any quantum field theory in Flat space times which respects: (i) Locality, (ii) Unitarity and (iii) Lorentz Symmetry. Holmlid is producing neutral K mesons. This particle demonstrates CP violation, The

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in physical cosmology , *baryogenesis* is the generic term for the hypothetical physical processes that produced an asymmetry (imbalance) between baryons and antibaryons