Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-12-02 Thread Vibrator !
> His failures are waaay past 'E' in the alphabet. ..well as someone up to hexadecimal figures i maybe have a low bar; whatevs, SOMETHING's going down next Thursday so don't forget to cast a weary eye that way even if you're not stocking up on popcorn (me neither, honestly). One or two

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 9:21 AM Vibrator ! wrote: > Rossi's 'E' day's coming up fast - under a fortnight now. > His failures are waaay past 'E' in the alphabet.

RE: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-28 Thread Vibrator !
Hi Bob, cheers for the thoughts but it obvs wasn't really a serious exercise - the bosonic nature of the D2 molecule and nucleus, along with the high magnetic moment of Ni as a potential short-range polarising factor just seemed to offer up a possibly-fertile axis of coherence; scaling up might

RE: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-27 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Monday, November 22, 2021 7:13 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-L@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ? In light of Rossi's apparent lead i'd be looking at the possibility of spontaneous formation of novel condensates. The D2 diatomic molecule being a bos

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-24 Thread Jones Beene
MSF wrote: Jones, is there a link where we could access your monel metal experiments? Years ago, I did a lot of CF experiments using cupronickel in an unusual form. These were successful, but the results were inconsistent for reasons that are obvious when you know my procedure.  I am not a

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread MSF
Jones, is there a link where we could access your monel metal experiments? Years ago, I did a lot of CF experiments using cupronickel in an unusual form. These were successful, but the results were inconsistent for reasons that are obvious when you know my procedure. I am not a scientist, so I

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread Bill Antoni
On 2021-11-23 17:44, Jones Beene wrote: Thanks for remembering this experiment from Simon Brink ! The effect is surprisingly large and my bet is that it only works well with 316 grade SS. If so - that would be good evidence for Mills' theory and the importance of the lowest energy catalyst.

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread Jones Beene
Thanks for remembering this experiment from Simon Brink ! The effect is surprisingly large and my bet is that it only works well with 316 grade SS. If so - that would be good evidence for Mills' theory and the importance of the lowest energy catalyst. Nickel alone should not work as well. As

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread Bill Antoni
On 2021-11-23 15:39, Jones Beene wrote: It is hard to separate Mills' theory from Holmlid's work. They are likely to be complementary with both offering important details. One early experiment for a "critical volume" validation could involve the catalytic propensity of reactor itself. IOW - a

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread Jones Beene
It is hard to separate Mills' theory from Holmlid's work. They are likely to be complementary with both offering important details. One early experiment for a "critical volume" validation could involve the catalytic propensity of reactor itself. IOW - a large volume with NO added catalyst

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread Bill Antoni
i...@gmail.com> *Sent: *Monday, November 22, 2021 1:18 PM *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ? If hydrogen adsorbed on suitable catalysts can be made to desorb for example with UV light, and if then a transition of the H atoms to a compressed sta

RE: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-22 Thread Vibrator !
In light of Rossi's apparent lead i'd be looking at the possibility of spontaneous formation of novel condensates. The D2 diatomic molecule being a boson presents an obvious soft target for aligning spins to cohere into shared lower-energy quantum states, the different magnetic moments of the

RE: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-22 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
b Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Bill Antoni<mailto:bantoni...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 1:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-22 Thread Bill Antoni
If hydrogen adsorbed on suitable catalysts can be made to desorb for example with UV light, and if then a transition of the H atoms to a compressed state in desorption also in turn causes the emission of UV light (without focus on any theory in particular, although R. Mills has studied such

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-22 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Bill, Your thought about "critical volume" is intriguing and brings up the possibility of efficient self-lasing due to adsorption/desorption and catalysis. Of interest would be the violet H line at 410 nm for which there is already a secret US Navy weapon in this category. Coincidence?

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-22 Thread Bill Antoni
Jones Beene wrote: One further thought about the Thermacore runaway - is there a potential lesson there, for experiment design ? There could be one lesson which can be called - GO BIG... but also BEWARE if you go big. Perhaps there is something akin to critical mass, which is important for

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-21 Thread Robin
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sun, 21 Nov 2021 19:23:59 -0700: Hi, What picture? >Hi Bob, > >I found a report about Thermacore's measurements that included this picture >of their test vessel: > >On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 4:52 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com < >bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-21 Thread Bob Higgins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows > > > > *From: *Jones Beene > *Sent: *Friday, November 19, 2021 1:17 PM > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-21 Thread Jones Beene
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 1:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?   Hi Bob,   Yes, there are way too many loose ends in this story - not the least of which is: where is that damaged reactor now? It is almost unconscionable to have ign

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-21 Thread Jones Beene
x-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?   Hi Bob,   Yes, there are way too many loose ends in this story - not the least of which is: where is that damaged reactor now? It is almost unconscionable to have ignored it all these years.   If a nuclear reaction

RE: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-21 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
rom Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 1:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ? Hi Bob, Yes, th

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-19 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Bob, Yes, there are way too many loose ends in this story - not the least of which is: where is that damaged reactor now? It is almost unconscionable to have ignored it all these years. If a nuclear reaction had happened, there should be residual radiation. Not to mention - most top

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-19 Thread Bob Higgins
Thank you, Jones, for that historical highlight of the Thermacore experiment. 2.5 pounds of the Ni would have only amounted to 12% volumetric fill of the 3L container volume. When you say the stainless steel pressure vessel had a "hemispherical volume", what do you mean? Do you mean the

[Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-17 Thread Jones Beene
After all of these decades, the perception of LENR in the general physics community is still rather 'unflattering,' shall we say. It is not even clear what the most convincing experiment (aka - the hero effort) is/was in the field - since none has yet led to a commercial product. Many new