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about experts, I've exchanged and seen exchange an dposition by many experts on facts around climate story. for example for paludisme, experts say climate is not the main driver, but not too lood, and they say climate change is real . numerical experts say modeling of climate cannot be correct

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If the fanatics were to get the reins and turn the "Global Warming" theory into an emergency, it would cause a shift of lower middle class individuals into poverty to pay for the emergency efforts. Many would die from not being able to heat their house, buy food, or go to work. Exactly so.

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Jed, if all three gave you the same useless recommendation and you disagreed and did something else that worked. I would say you had a better understanding than the experts. I am not very good at medicine. However, I often knows better about my body than the doctor. Sometimes they are just plain

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, 2015 7:10 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:N. Y. Times article comment Jed, I think a problem in this dialog is that you are not an expert even in a related field. I happen to be an expert in a related field. I spent my career in computer modeling of linear and nonlinear systems

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Well Jed, you have seen the last half dozen posts that show just how rotten climate science has become. You might conclude that climate science is not a "hard" science like physics but more like psychology where theory changes like fashions over time because hard facts are missing. It wasn't

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Jeb, You wrote: "You should at least acknowledge that I am defending the opinions of experts. Educated people may disagree with experts but it goes to far to say this is "indefensible." You, for some reason, imagine you know better than these experts. Given the complexity of modern society and

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Jed, I think a problem in this dialog is that you are not an expert even in a related field. I happen to be an expert in a related field. I spent my career in computer modeling of linear and nonlinear systems. The climate modeling problem suffers in many ways from the same problem as LENR.

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Lennart Thornros wrote: > You go to three experts and the one who gives the correct answer is the > REAL expert. That is the problem in a nutshell - experts are often wrong > even if they say they are experts and it is hard to see which one is THE > expert. I assume you

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Gee, how timely is this… “Dr. Judith Curry is Professor and former Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. She delivered her verbal statement to last week's US Senate Commerce Committee Hearing on "Data or Dogma? Promoting Open Inquiry

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MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Gee, how timely is this… > > > > “Dr. Judith Curry is Professor and former Chair of the School of Earth > and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. She > delivered her verbal statement to last week's US Senate Commerce

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Lennart Thornros wrote: > If scientists had THE answer than the rest of us would be obsolete. > That depends on THE question. If the question is highly complex and and it takes years of effort to understand then yes, scientists have the answer (if anyone does) and the

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Bob Higgins wrote: > Yes, CO2 is a greenhouse gas and is likely increasing the global > temperature - probably at a miniscule rate compared to the rate of warming > due to natural cosmological and geothermal causes. > Yeah? How many papers on this subject have you

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Jed, I voted for you. This is what I wrote my local paper. I didn't mention LENR because they have published a number of my pieces on the subject already. Adrian To the Times. The Paris climate accord means little beyond others saying they agreed with President Obama's opinion. The

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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:N. Y. Times article comment MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: Gee, how timely is this… “Dr. Judith Curry is Professor and former Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. She del

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MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Here’s the real issue Jed… > > > > Didn’t you once argue vociferously, that science is NOT done by > consensus??? > As Damon Runyon said, "The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet." What I am

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For fear of being branded a card carrying republican, I hate to comment on such topics. I believe the "global warming movement" is a false flag - just another lie being broadcast as propaganda to achieve some government's pet objective. It is not that I don't believe the earth is warming - I do.

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Bob Higgins wrote: For fear of being branded a card carrying republican, I hate to comment on > such topics. I believe the "global warming movement" is a false flag - > just another lie being broadcast as propaganda to achieve some government's > pet objective. >

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Alain Sepeda wrote: there are case where communities of scientist were locked in groupthink, > often locally because until recently science was not globally judged. > > N-Ray was very popular in french science. > Wegener was very Impopular > LENR is unpopular > Those

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Jed, you certainly have a right to your opinion and to express it. In the case of LENR, there are well respected scientists in positions of power in the US government that claim LENR doesn't exist - "it is bad science". They say this either from being right (I don't think so personally), from

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there are case where communities of scientist were locked in groupthink, often locally because until recently science was not globally judged. N-Ray was very popular in french science. Wegener was very Impopular LENR is unpopular What can lock people who seems honest is "Groupthink".

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Bob, you seem to agree there is warming... That CO2 is increasing, by humans... I presume you agree that increased CO2 heats things up with the greenhouse effect. I presume you understand that oil pays a lot of people a lot of money to make global warming look like some kind of conspiracy... I

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Bob Higgins wrote: Jed, you certainly have a right to your opinion and to express it. In the > case of LENR, there are well respected scientists in positions of power in > the US government that claim LENR doesn't exist - "it is bad science". > Yes. I know those

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Bob Higgins, I think Jed is attempting to defend the indefensible. But you stated the Chinese pollution problem is due to CO2. It isn't. If it were just CO2 there would be no smog. CO2 levels would have to get a lot higher than that for people to even notice it.

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Correction "I presume you understand that oil companies pay a lot of people a lot of money to make global warming look like some kind of conspiracy". I think there is room for the experts to be mistaken But when you look at who believes in human caused global warming, the Oil companies internally

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On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is not to suggest that all experts are always right, but non-experts > are never right, and they cannot be right, even in principle. If they > happen to be right, it is a lucky guess. > This is complete nonsense.

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Jed, I frequently say that I am not a qualified science person, particularly in regards to nuclear science, which I have very little background in. However, and to your disappointment:) , I will voice my opinion as I see fit. If scientists had THE answer than the rest of us would be obsolete. I

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a.ashfield wrote: > > I think Jed is attempting to defend the indefensible. You should at least acknowledge that I am defending the opinions of experts. Educated people may disagree with experts but it goes to far to say this is "indefensible." You, for some reason,

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Eric Walker wrote: > > This is not to suggest that all experts are always right, but non-experts >> are never right, and they cannot be right, even in principle. If they >> happen to be right, it is a lucky guess. >> > > This is complete nonsense. > Obviously I mean with

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Yes, CO2 is increasing by humans. In many ways fossil fuels keep us alive and fed. It runs the furnace for my house to keep me from freeaing (20F outside), it runs the tractors that farm the fields, the trucks and trains that deliver the food, and most people in the US require driving a car to

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Yes, Jed you are right. You go to three experts and the one who gives the correct answer is the REAL expert. That is the problem in a nutshell - experts are often wrong even if they say they are experts and it is hard to see which one is THE expert. I assume you did not go to the two first