Craig Brown wrote:
First of all, I would be ecstatic if Rossi's eCat was proven, but the
constant regurgitative reportage of Rossi Says this, Rossi says that
being pumped out by certain reporters has me reaching for the vomit
bag on an almost daily basis.
Yup, it is silly. But why get upset
from Jed:
...
The difference between Celani's 21 W and Rossi's 16 kW is unimportant, in my
opinion. They are equally close to commercialization. The 16 kW looks more
impressive to people who do not understand the technical issues. The
megawatt reactor looks impressive to such people as well.
The difference between Celani's 21 W and Rossi's 16 kW is unimportant,
in my opinion. They are equally close to commercialization. The 16 kW
looks more impressive to people who do not understand the technical
issues. The megawatt reactor looks impressive to such people as well.
To me, it
From: Jed Rothwell
* The megawatt reactor looks impressive to such people as well. To me, it
looks like a gigantic white elephant. It is a distraction, and an absurd waste
of time and effort… but I would no more crank up the whole thing than I would
try to fly the Caproni Ca-60 Transaereo
While the Capronismo is humorous (did they envision ground effect?) the
comparison really isn't fair. Rossi's 1MW heat plant is low complexity and
makes a lot of sense from the standpoint of industrial learning curve:
Base it on a standard unit of replication with a minimal connecting
At 09:08 AM 8/23/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig Brown wrote:
First of all, I would be ecstatic if Rossi's eCat was proven, but
the constant regurgitative reportage of Rossi Says this, Rossi
says that being pumped out by certain reporters has me reaching
for the vomit bag on an almost daily
After a very thorough analysis of the status of CF reporting was
summed up by Abd, he concludes with:
And we need reporters who will look more carefully. Any volunteers?
I volunteer you.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ha! … LOL we have talked about this marvel before – and as being the perfect
“Rossi metaphor”.
Looks reliable to me:
3 engines, 9 wings, 27 windows, seating 81,
someone had a trinity fetish
T
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks reliable to me:
3 engines, 9 wings, 27 windows, seating 81,
someone had a trinity fetish
I missed that! That's hysterical.
- Jed
At 01:30 PM 8/23/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
After a very thorough analysis of the status of CF reporting was
summed up by Abd, he concludes with:
And we need reporters who will look more carefully. Any volunteers?
I volunteer you.
Great. Thanks. I accept, any idea about
At 01:48 PM 8/23/2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ha!
LOL we have talked about this marvel
before and as being the perfect
Rossi metaphor.
Looks reliable to me:
3 engines, 9 wings, 27 windows, seating 81,
someone
At 09:39 AM 8/23/2012, Andre Blum wrote:
Rossi's attempt to scale up did not fail, too.
We don't know that. Generally, in his post, Mr. Blum made a number of
statements, as if they were fact, that are not from independent
sources. Like the claim that the 1 MW E-cat is industrially
At 09:52 AM 8/23/2012, James Bowery wrote:
While the Capronismo is humorous (did they envision ground effect?)
the comparison really isn't fair. Rossi's 1MW heat plant is low
complexity and makes a lot of sense from the standpoint of
industrial learning curve:
Base it on a standard unit of
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
Actually, I don't think it's useful to ridicule Rossi, but pointing out
how his business strategy, if he actually has functioning E-Cats in the 10
KW range or so, is preposterous, isn't ridiculing him. It's
On 08/23/2012 07:05 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 09:39 AM 8/23/2012, Andre Blum wrote:
Rossi's attempt to scale up did not fail, too.
We don't know that. Generally, in his post, Mr. Blum made a number of
statements, as if they were fact, that are not from independent
sources. [etc,
From Abd,
And we need reporters who will look more carefully. Any volunteers?
I volunteer you.
Great. Thanks. I accept, any idea about funding?
I would suggest you contact Mr. Krivit and ask him how he funds his NET
reporting. Unfortunately, I don't think Mr. Krivit likes you.
Regards,
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
It would be like buying a thousand expensive integrated circuits without
having independent evaluation of them, and without working with a
development kit with one of them.
No its not. Its like doing a systems
I don't know, but there was a Fredrick's of Hollywood ad on the page.
Coincidence? I think not. ;-)
Jeff
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
from Jed:
...
...
...
why
the media in this case seems so inept.
Ransom
- Original Message -
From: Mark Gibbs
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com ; E-Cat newsletter ; Sterling Allan ; Hank Mills
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed
Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com ; E-Cat newsletter e-...@yahoogroups.com ;
Sterling
Allan sterlin...@pureenergysystems.com ; Hank Mills hankmi...@pesn.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:23 PM
*Subject:* [Vo]:Re: Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed
- Original Message -
From: Mark Gibbs
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com ; E-Cat newsletter ; Sterling Allan ; Hank Mills
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed
In the piece by Hank Mills it claims
You should not be surprised that the public expects a very high level of
journalistic insight and fairness from the most prestigious magazines. It's
your job.
One of the more respectable claimants in the field, generally ignored, is
only a couple of hours drive from NYC.
@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed
it makes me wonder why the media in this case seems so inept. ... you
wonder because you have no idea what you're talking about. In this case, PESN
and Hank Mills are tossing
as having not an ounce of
orginality.
Zedshort
- Original Message -
From: Mark Gibbs
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed
it makes me wonder why the media...
in
spreading false hopes and I believe that you understand that.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed
Mark, Thanks for the story
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Also, your expectation that the media should have either, confirmed a
fraud OR confirmed something newsworthy is equally nonsensical.
I would say you should only investigate something if you agree it is
newsworthy and you intend to publish something about
One of the most convincing things lately is Mike McKubre's
presentation in 8 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtweR_qGHEc
It's the old Pd/D experiments; but, it is compelling.
T
When the cold fusion research community finally comes up with devices
meeting your criteria, the world will be grateful to you Mr. Gibbs.
Because of your strong stand for serious scientific proof, in the end,
science will win because of your steadfastness.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Mark
Actually, ultimately science is a very small part of this story if LENR
verifies.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
When the cold fusion research community finally comes up with devices meeting
your criteria, the world will be grateful
WHOOSH
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com wrote:
Actually, ultimately science is a very small part of this story if LENR
verifies.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
When the cold fusion research
Instead of just passing on PESN Stories, try to draw some journalism
lessens from its blogger. Go to where the first hand information is
percolating and can be had by just asking the right question.
In September, Rossi will hold a E-Cat user conference; go there; find out
who is buying his
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
When the cold fusion research community finally comes up with devices
meeting your criteria, the world will be grateful to you Mr. Gibbs.
Because of your strong stand for serious scientific proof, in the end,
science will win because of your
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Meet Rossi; look him in the eye; gage the man, is he a man we can trust?
NO!!! No he is not. If he said it was raining I would go outside to see for
myself. I compiled a whole list of contradictory claims that made, that are
logically or physically mutually
The spirit of my post was to emphasize the importance of “old school
journalism” as an ideal of what journalism should be.
Unlike many journalists practicing today who believes in a desk job or
research on a computer screen, an old school journalist wants to have
first hand impressions, gathered
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Unlike many journalists practicing today who believes in a desk job or
research on a computer screen, an old school journalist wants to have
first hand impressions, gathered from talking with real people and from
going on location.
That is true.
Although
Jed sed:
Regarding the enigma known as Rossi.
...I learned a long time ago not to ignore intuition, but not to fully
trust it either.
...and the wisdom to know the difference.
Good komment, Jed.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Axil,Be nice to Jed. He is a talking head, not a reporter. He also is an amateur librarian. This may help educate the Vortex crew a little: We must not have a slop of divergent definitions, right?Definition: A reporter is someone who is employed to investigate and report news stories, either for a
nt there's a lovely second hand bridge in New York that I am willing to sell for a good price.
Original Message
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed
From: "Puppy Dog" d...@inbox.lv
Date: Thu, August 23, 2012 12:11 pm
To: "vort
Again, I say, WHOOSH
OK, so maybe I placed the fulcrum a bit to far and the arm broke.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
When the cold fusion research community finally comes up with devices
meeting your
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