Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-11 Thread Teslaalset
In the early days Rossi mentioned that heat is largely produced by particles absorbed by the lead shielding, mentioning gamma radiation that he had in mind. How much is known about shielding requirements of muons (or related sub particles)? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Daniel Rocha

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-11 Thread Axil Axil
The shield of 1/2 mile depth of earth is a sufficient. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote: In the early days Rossi mentioned that heat is largely produced by particles absorbed by the lead shielding, mentioning gamma radiation that he had in mind.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-11 Thread Axil Axil
The muons are coming out of a sample cold rust doped with potassium that is kept in the dark. Where does the fusion fit in there? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: I think those gamma detected are not really an issue. They are probably generated when 8

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
Some part of the reaction yields thermal energy (low xrays, which are absorbed in any material within nanometers). Some jump straight to muon formation.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
I think those gamma detected are not really an issue. They are probably generated when 8 deuterium gather to form O16, according to Akito Model. It may that, instead of emitting many shorth xrays rays due a highly anisotropic perturbation of 8 deuterium fusing simmultenously, what happens is the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
Isn't he talking about ultra dense deuterium? That's the basis of his work.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
I made some calculations. I guess it fits his results: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+++8*+mass+of+Deuterium+-+mass+of+O16+-+mass+of+muon The end result is a muon with a kinetic energy of 4 MeV.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread David Roberson
A little premature don't you think? If this kind of radiation is produced in abundance then the industry is dead for most applications. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 1:03 am Subject:

RE: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Axil: ... Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new... but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container. I wouldn't be surprised that Rossi doesn't have a firm

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
How much is too much? There is a wise truism: Moderation in all things. How many muons is too many? Does a LENR test reactor produce too many subatomic particles, how about a 1 megawatt plant, how adout a 10 or 100 megawatt plant? What is the limit for safe exposure to muons? Is it wise to sit in

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
LENR thermalizes gamma rays into heat, but how far does the safety zone of LENR thermalization occur? If Rossi sits outside that zone of LENR protection, does his body feel gamma radiation from muon decay? What is the cross section for that gamma decay inside Rossi? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:09

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
Are mesons safe? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:29 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: This country is transmitting multi terrawatts of electrons into the atmosphere 24/7, what's a few muons... On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: How much is too much?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
This country is transmitting multi terrawatts of electrons into the atmosphere 24/7, what's a few muons... On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: How much is too much? There is a wise truism: Moderation in all things. How many muons is too many? Does a LENR test

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
Ultraviolet light is not dangerous is small amounts, it even makes vitamin D. But a large dose of UV over a long time causes skin cancer. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: There isn't anything particularly dangerous with any particle. What matters is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Daniel Rocha
1 mol of muons measaure 0.1g. 10^26 gives around 15g of muons. Their decay in mass gives pretty much only gamma rays in terms of energy. That gives around 300ktons in TNT. Which is about 15 times Hiroshima's nuke.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Daniel Rocha
There isn't anything particularly dangerous with any particle. What matters is how much they ionize your body and disrupt you dna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_contamination

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
Electrons do not catalyze fusion, but muons do. If muons enter the body and catalyze some fusion, is that a good thing for one;s health? You tell me, I don't know. The answer might have something to do with the probability cross section of the reaction. If 10^^26 muons are penetrating the body,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-10 Thread Daniel Rocha
I don't know about the cross section of muons. But, given the enormous energy, if those are discharged within some millenniums, it won't be a problem 2015-08-10 15:16 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: LENR thermalizes gamma rays into heat, but how far does the safety zone of LENR