Re: [Vo]:Gain from wires and magnets?

2016-07-17 Thread John Berry
Floyd Sweets device worked, but it is aetheric as well as electromagnetic. It has accounts of antigravity, freezing wires, and once when overloaded it made a vortex sound... Many of the more credible coils and magnets free energy devices have other anomalous effects besides mere overunity. And

RE: [Vo]:Gain from wires and magnets?

2016-07-17 Thread Jones Beene
Bob Higgins wrote: In such cases, it is really useful to simulate the system with a model that is entirely without unknown physics and see how the model compares with observation. If it predicts the same phenomena, you can be pretty sure that the outcome was simply outside your expectation.

Re: [Vo]:Gain from wires and magnets?

2016-07-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 07/17/2016 12:00 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: In such cases, it is really useful to simulate the system with a model that is entirely without unknown physics and see how the model compares with observation. If it predicts the same phenomena, you can be pretty sure that the outcome was simply

Re: [Vo]:Gain from wires and magnets?

2016-07-17 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote: No one has ever explained the apparent gain seen in the circuits of the > late Arthur Manelas ... I think you're referring to the device of Manelas's that ended up in Brian Ahern's hands. Ahern's description sounds to me

Re: [Vo]:Gain from wires and magnets?

2016-07-17 Thread Bob Higgins
I was once working with a technician who had hooked up an L-C circuit (without a transformer) and saw AC voltage gain. He was convinced that he had an overunity invention. The voltage gain was outside of his expectation. However, it was pointed out by someone with more experience that the