In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Actually the old argument is correct, in concept, but wrong in magnitude.
In order to come down in exactly the same spot (assuming a perfectly vertical
jump), one would have to maintain the same angular
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In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:22:34 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
This reminds me of a pre 17th century argument that the Earth cannot be
turning.
As everyone knows if the Earth was turning then the ground would move away
from you whenever you jumped in the air. However
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Back around 2008 I gather someone who went by the name of Alsetalokin
(that's Nicola Tesla spelled backwards) brought an unusual magnetic motor
configuration to the public domain's attention.
On 11-07-31 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
Upon closer inspection, this counter-intuitive configuration is
actually less bizarre to comprehend to those (such as me) who have
studied magnetic characteristics, and who have performed countless
Finite Element Method
From Stephen,
Please note that physics simulation packages are going to be based on
physical law, as currently understood, and the conventional EM model of
magnetism is conservative. As a result, the assumption of conservative
behavior is built into the modeling package.
Consequently, it
Terry,
Some follow-up comments.
The present belief is that the whipmag was a hoax which got
way out of hand when the vid went viral. Al removed the vid
but it got copied by others. OC has since passed away and
Al seems to regret the whole incident from what little he
will say.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding the animated graphic purporting to represent the whipMag
configuration in action, as shown out at:
http://www.overunity.org.uk/cmps_index.php?pageid=whipmag1
this animation appears (to
From Terry:
Actually, the animation is per OC's idea which came to him in a dream.
The whipmag was a variation on the dream.
That may be so, but OC's dream variation is, IMO, categorically
different than what Alsetalokin's original configuration appears to
show. IMHO, OC dream, specifically
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:35 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
That may be so, but OC's dream variation is, IMO, categorically
different than what Alsetalokin's original configuration appears to
show. IMHO, OC dream, specifically the dynamic animation displayed
From Terrry:
The consensus at the time was it was driven with a
compressed air nozzle.
A reasonably educated guess.
Nevertheless, I'm not yet ready to throw in the towel. (Or perhaps I'm
not finished obsessing over... I mean amusing myself over the
Alsetalokin matter.) ;-)
The original
From Terrry:
The consensus at the time was it was driven with a
compressed air nozzle.
Al spun the small gear several times before he was able to get the
device to start. Could the 'failed' attempts have been a cover for
winding a spring?
The thing that bugged me about the whipmag saga
The thing that bugged me about the whipmag saga was that Al did
say, quietly, offhandedly, that no laws of physics were being
broken, but made the demo look as convincing as he could.
Yes. Sounds like you were there for the whole stinking show. I have
followed his posts on the Steorn forum
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
As for me, I'm tapped out cash wise. ... the garage is a mess, too.
Well, Clanzer, and others, built exact replicas to no avail. I would
not advise you to follow suit.
T
From Terry:
Well, Clanzer, and others, built exact replicas to no avail.
I would not advise you to follow suit.
I wasn't planning on it.
My initial interest was strongly biased towards speculating on whether
an asymmetry might begin to manifest in Alsetalokin's ROTOR/STATOR
configuration if
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
My initial interest was strongly biased towards speculating on whether
an asymmetry might begin to manifest in Alsetalokin's ROTOR/STATOR
configuration if everything could be carefully choreographed
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The Whipmag All-Magnet Motor, saga
However, despite my lack of funding no shop issues, what makes
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