Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 6 May 2011 07:53:43 -0400: Hi, [snip] On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Electron annihilation doesn't produce a 1.22 MeV photon. It produces two 511 keV photons (180 deg. apart). I knew that. What I should have said was

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 6 May 2011 06:47:51 -0700: Hi, [snip] -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Ed Storms suggests: H-e-H -- D The problem with this one is that the energy is all taken by the neutrino

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 06 May 2011 12:56:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] Deuterium is cheap, but helium-3 is potentially worth a fortune. If they can tune cells to crank that out, that might be fantastic! I do not think we would need He3 reactors for ordinary applications if we have

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Electron annihilation doesn't produce a 1.22 MeV photon. It produces two 511 keV photons (180 deg. apart). I knew that. What I should have said was 1.22 MeV of energy. Which would also be wrong since the spin energy has to go

RE: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-06 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Ed Storms suggests: H-e-H -- D The problem with this one is that the energy is all taken by the neutrino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction#The_pep_re action Robin, Yes. As far back as 1996 Mitchell Swartz

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jones: ... ... hey ... come to think of it ... you don't think that the deuterium tank seen at one time in Rossi's setup was indicating that he could be harvesting the ash g ? nah... The excuse given at the time was to quench the reaction, but think about it, do you quench fire with

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: If the energy seen by Rossi were due to P-e-P, he could make a lot more money selling the deuterium than providing heat ;) ... hey ... come to think of it ... you don't think that the deuterium tank seen at one time in Rossi's setup was indicating that he could be harvesting

RE: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-06 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell Actually, seriously, deuterium is pretty cheap ... Really? what does it cost in Atlanta ? ...or is 'pretty cheap' more a reflection of your excellent financial health g? Neither heavy water nor D2 could be called a bargain out here. Online, D2O

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Really? what does it cost in Atlanta ? When you are drinking single malt scotch, you should always use heavy water ice cubes. T

RE: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Jones Beene
A few additions and improvements. The Modus Operandi List Anyone approaching Ni-H from a theoretical perspective may benefit from a list of possible gainful routes which are either non-nuclear, new-nuclear, supra-chemical, or a hybrid. Many of these processes can overlap or can be applied

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Good work-in-progress compilation Jones. Thanks for volunteering. It's astonishing to me to see the number of different theories being explored. Some obviously have at present garnered more respect than others. But who really knows at present what combination of the above (or perhaps none at all)

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Terry Blanton
17) IFM

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ed Storms suggests: H-e-H -- D - Jed

RE: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, but I wonder if Ed knows of a version that does not release a positron? Positron annihilation would have been seen by VB, and one of their meters was designed for that. On the #2 spot on the list, this reaction is listed without the electron mentioned, but with the preface saying that any

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Jones Beene
I got an update from Ed on this reaction, and I will work it into the list on the next update. Yes, but I wonder if Ed knows of a version that does not release a positron? Positron annihilation would have been seen by VB, and one of their meters was designed for that. On the #2 spot

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Positron annihilation would have been seen by VB, and one of their meters was designed for that. Ah, but was it averaging or reading in real time? Remember The Event in the January test? The anecdotal 1.22 MeV photon may

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Terry Blanton
I had a dream the other night about quantum weapons. These would be weapons which utilize the observer to collapse wave equations at will. Now, use your imagination on this one. Ever see Wizards? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076929/ It had a remarkable ending when the good wizard, brother to

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 5 May 2011 08:44:02 -0700: Hi, [snip] 13) This floor is always missing ..or just the exit as the elevator goes past? ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 5 May 2011 09:55:57 -0700: Hi, [snip] 15) The Brightsen model of antimatter clusters within the H nucleus. I have never given this much credence, because anti-matter has positive mass, so his nuclei would weigh too much. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 05 May 2011 14:51:34 -0400: Hi, [snip] Ed Storms suggests: H-e-H -- D - Jed The problem with this one is that the energy is all taken by the neutrino (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction#The_pep_reaction). Regards,

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 5 May 2011 18:28:59 -0400: Hi, [snip] On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Positron annihilation would have been seen by VB, and one of their meters was designed for that. Ah, but was it averaging or reading in real

Re: [Vo]:The Modus Operandi List for Radiation Free Energy Gain

2011-05-05 Thread Ron Wormus
Robin, I agree that if anti-matter has positive mass there can't be any in an H nucleus. But I'm not sure anti-matters mass is proven to be positive experimentally. If Mill's 5th force experiment is correct then gravitational mass doesn't equal inertial mass and all bets are off. If you search