fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
I miss Jed. I hope he comes back.
You know, when things didn't go his way at Infinite Energy, he never
came back.
And it may come to pass that Grok's purpose will be fulfilled: He will
have succeeded in totally disrupting the forum.
For, remember, Jed's banning,
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:04:59 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
While the organisms may live in sea water, sea water is rich with nutrients
which will have to be supplied, and such is part of whole which needs
consideration.
[snip]
The trick is to nourish them with real sea
On Jun 14, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
I miss Jed. I hope he comes back.
You know, when things didn't go his way at Infinite Energy, he never
came back.
And it may come to pass that Grok's purpose will be fulfilled: He
will
have succeeded in
Erm, I think by that definition of insanity the world would have more insane
than sane.
At least reason/evidence *seems* to dictate how a minority view reality.
Of course there are differing levels I suppose, grok was outside of normal
not in his logic but in his hostility.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009
You are right, John, and I severely simplified the definition to save
time for me and the readers who might not be interested. Insanity
takes many forms just as physical dysfunction takes many forms, some
of which are not harmful and can be interesting under certain
conditions. The
Very true.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
You are right, John, and I severely simplified the definition to save time
for me and the readers who might not be interested. Insanity takes many
forms just as physical dysfunction takes many forms, some
The Department of Energy committed yesterday to spend $1 billion in
economic stimulus funds to restart plans for a controversial coal-
fired power plant that promises to capture 60 percent of its carbon
dioxide emissions and trap them underground.
I'm well aware of blacklight power and I unreservedly salute Mills and others
for their brave fight against prejudiced academic opponents. It's the sort of
technology that could save our civilization and change political dynamics for
the better.
That said, there are still hurdles. Can a
Unfortunately, here is were politics get into the act and this is why
politics need to be discussed if any sense is to be made of the energy
problem. The US will not and cannot give up the use of coal. Too many
jobs are at risk and the material supplies too much energy that cannot
be
--- On Sat, 6/13/09, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Really? That's your impression of Jed?
Yes.
I would suggest you might want to consider looking in the
mirror when
you say that.
I wish for people to be free to choose their own paths. Read what he has
written, and I have
Hi Kyle,
Regarding my previous response:
Kyle sez:
From: Mark Iverson
Hey Jed, time to go take a vacation
and get some RR... Go climb a mountain with your
kids. By the time you get back, Bill will have
ended the ban...you won't even know it was in effect!
Better yet, he can
Well stated Steven! Jed makes people think by making informed
arguments, some of which I also do not share. Apparently his style is
painful to some people, I'm sorry to discover.
Ed
On Jun 14, 2009, at 11:40 AM, OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Kyle,
Regarding my previous response:
Kyle sez:
At this point, why isn't Jed back?
I wasn't gone this long...
Anyone contacted him, told him the level of support/commiserations and
ensured he isn't taking it all personally?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
Well stated Steven! Jed makes people think
Hi, Robin,
Agreed that carbons can be used to make carbon compounds. But, as you point
out, there is non-trivial the matter of energy consumed in the process and,
I would add, the non-trivial matter of economics.
There is a reason we aren't making carbon-based materials out of CO2. And
this same
--- On Sun, 6/14/09, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish to express a public apology to Kyle MCallister. My
previous
comment was impulsive, and it shows so. Let me rephrase my
prior
thoughts into something less impulsive, and hopefully more
thoughtful.
I appreciate it.
On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
Hi, Robin,
Agreed that carbons can be used to make carbon compounds. But, as
you point
out, there is non-trivial the matter of energy consumed in the
process and,
I would add, the non-trivial matter of economics.
There is a reason
From: Lawrence de Bivort
Hi, Robin,
Agreed that carbons can be used to make carbon compounds. But, as
you point out, there is non-trivial the matter of energy consumed
in the process and, I would add, the non-trivial matter of
economics.
There is a reason we aren't making carbon-based
I wrote: It is notable that we *can* make feed stocks from CO2 using
algae and sunlight:
http://www.oilgae.com/
Unfortunately, most of the CO2 producing plants are in the north.
One solution might be to pipeline CO2 south. Probably more sensible
to build new hybrid plants in the south
Kyle,
Thanks for taking the time to explain your situation more clearly. It
helps me understand where you are coming from.
It is not my place to explain Jed's actions. That's Jed's
responsibility, should he feel compelled to do so – perhaps when his
sentence is up.
I'll simply say that I think
--- On Sun, 6/14/09, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Public apology to Kyle Mcallister, and a rephrasing of my
original comment
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 6:15 PM
Kyle,
Thanks for taking
?Jed, we want you to come back.? I enjoy your posts.? I saw somthing you would
like when I visited the Oak Ridge science mueseum.? I positive exhibit on cold
fusion.?I will post the text once I such a picture.? ?I took of it into my
computer.? ?I asked the exhibition manager about it.? He said
From Kyle:
I was particularly struck by one of your comments:
[those who have sufficient income to afford
ECO-friendly cars, BMWs, Porches and other imported
overpriced garbage] have disdain for people who perform labor,
actual work. They think we [meaning you] aren't doing enough.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article6493481.ece
Oceans charge up new theory of magnetism
Earth's magnetic field, long thought to be generated by molten metals
swirling around its core, may instead be produced by ocean currents,
according to controversial new research
This thread should be fascinating to a student of sociology, political
science, and/or psychology. Already there are 'pro' and 'anti' Jed posts by
those who dot not really know him. The two present who know him, face to
face and for many years are Ed Storms and myself. Steve has a reasoned
Chris wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Chris Zell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Two Wrongs, continued
I'm well aware of blacklight power and I unreservedly salute Mills and
others for their brave fight against prejudiced academic
If its actual politics that has to do with the technology and
development of the science, thats one thing.
The moment it extrapolates to world politics, ect, thats taking it a bit far.
And Jed's response is pretty much, well, I'm taking my ball and going home.
Sorry if i have no respect for
Has no one learned? This entire conversation should be in B.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:40 AM, OrionWorkssvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kyle,
Regarding my previous response:
Kyle sez:
From: Mark Iverson
Hey Jed, time to go take a vacation
and get some RR... Go climb a mountain
To quote physicist and Gangsta rapper MC Hawkings,
What we need more of is SCIENCE. The vortex list was joined by myself
and many for SCIENCE into alt energy research. Not JUST cold fusion,
not to be advocates of or afainst this piece or that piece, not to
discuss politics., and most certainly
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Steven Krivit wrote:
It's time for a temporary ban on all off-topic discussions, most
specifically a ban on anything involving politics or religion. Those
who wish to discuss such things can do so: just use vortexB-L instead.
I've susbscribed the vortex community to
LOL. Thanks, Horace. I was trying to figure it out.
I like the idea: treat CO2 as an asset from which to produce a useful
material, rather than as a pollutant to be released into the environment.
That would present a double advantage. I'll go check the website. I hope it
has some preliminary
Mike Carrell wrote:
How have you advanced the cause of CF?
Ban
Harry (with tongue in cheek to make a point)
31 matches
Mail list logo
