RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Jones Beene
Lou,

This kind of photon stimulation was of great interest a few years ago and is
known as the Letts/Cravens effect. They had a tortuous path to get it to a
useful level when at EarthTech. Many null results in the process. Are we
there yet? 

At one time they also were saying that a magnetic field adds to the effect.
That is of keen interest as well, if this effect relates to quantum
entanglement, in any way.

Two additional points of interest that jump out to the Ni-H crowd:

1)  This gain from optical stimulation applies to Pd-D. Does it apply
equally to Ni-H?
2)  The highest gain is at ~15 THZ which is a IR emission (near IR)
better known from its wavelength about 1.5 microns. This corresponds to a
blackbody temperature, so the laser only adds coherency.

Actually the third point for interest for Ni-H watchers is derivative. 

If the answer to 1) is yes, then should not the active powder be in the size
range of 2)?



Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com 

Along those lines, you might want to read - PROGRESS ON DUAL LASER
EXPERIMENTS
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinprogresson.pdf


EXCERPT:
We have continued our experiments using duel laser stimulation of
electrochemically loaded PdD. In earlier work, we used two properly
oriented and polarized tunable diode lasers which provided stimulation at
optical frequencies; interestingly, we found that the excess heat
is sensitive to the beat difference frequency. Low-level thermal signals
are observed to be triggered at apparent resonances when the difference
frequency is 8.3,
15.3 and 20.4 THz

Perhaps, also related is the ultrasonic Superwave LENR stimulation used
by Energetics Technologies -
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DardikIultrasonic.pdf
My impression is that their source has a wideband discrete spectrum of
phase-locked frequencies - so that the same stimulus signal is repeatedly
swept.

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[Vo]:Rossi's developmental difficulties

2012-01-26 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Greetings,

In light of the discussion of Rossi's difficulties, the following from today's 
NYT is interesting. Joichi Ito, now head of MIT's Media Lab:

“Ideas are cheap, but it is about whether you can find an entrepreneur who is 
passionate about the idea,” Mr. Ito said. “You need passion, some experience 
and good investors, but also you need the ability to have structure. Corporate 
structure is tricky and bankruptcy structure is tricky. Those tend to inhibit 
entrepreneurs that might otherwise be taking the risk.”

Cheers,
Lawry

Re: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell

pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:


Along those lines, you might want to read -
PROGRESS ON DUAL LASER EXPERIMENTS
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinprogresson.pdf

EXCERPT:
We have continued our experiments using duel laser stimulation of


Yikes. Peter spelled dual wrong?!

- Jef



RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Jones Beene
But 'duel' is strangely appropriate in the context of a beat (or
complementary) wave

... as in dueling banjos

BTW - didn't you spell 'Jed' wrong? 

(wouldn't have noticed it, by my spell checker did)


-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell 

http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinprogresson.pdf


 EXCERPT:
 We have continued our experiments using duel laser stimulation of

Yikes. Peter spelled dual wrong?!

- Jef





[Vo]:The color of vortex?

2012-01-26 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzkvoTsixYfeature=related

why is this light emission blue? The implications of a tungsten filament
emitting at a higher frequency than expected is intriguing ...


attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread pagnucco
Jones,

My reply was originally to Mark Iverson's thread - I don't know why it
started a new one.  Mark is citing some experiments showing that
photosynthesis is more efficient when driven by selected multiple fixed
frequencies, and wonders whether there is a connection with CF/LENR
effects.

Good question on Ni-H.  Rossi apparently uses an RF-generator.  I have to
check on others, like Miley and Defkalion.  Energetics uses ultrasound -
their signal is imprecisely defined in their patent application,  but it's
clearly broadband, and appears to have a discrete picket-fench spectrum.

Based on the papers I've perused, I'd guess that optimal em/sonic
stimulation depends sensitively on particle size, temperature, morphology,
density, colloidal formations, crystallization patterns, proximity to
surfaces, ...

If Rossi's claims are accurate, I'd bet that National Instruments is
trying to (somehow) close the loop in this huge state-space to stay in the
tiny and elusive stable optimal operating spaces.

Thanks,
Lou Pagnucco


 Lou,

 This kind of photon stimulation was of great interest a few years ago and
 is
 known as the Letts/Cravens effect. They had a tortuous path to get it to
 a
 useful level when at EarthTech. Many null results in the process. Are we
 there yet?

 At one time they also were saying that a magnetic field adds to the
 effect.
 That is of keen interest as well, if this effect relates to quantum
 entanglement, in any way.

 Two additional points of interest that jump out to the Ni-H crowd:

 1)This gain from optical stimulation applies to Pd-D. Does it apply
 equally to Ni-H?
 2)The highest gain is at ~15 THZ which is a IR emission (near IR)
 better known from its wavelength about 1.5 microns. This corresponds to a
 blackbody temperature, so the laser only adds coherency.

 Actually the third point for interest for Ni-H watchers is derivative.

 If the answer to 1) is yes, then should not the active powder be in the
 size
 range of 2)?



 Original Message-
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com

 Along those lines, you might want to read - PROGRESS ON DUAL LASER
 EXPERIMENTS
 http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinprogresson.pdf


 EXCERPT:
 We have continued our experiments using duel laser stimulation of
 electrochemically loaded PdD. In earlier work, we used two properly
 oriented and polarized tunable diode lasers which provided stimulation at
 optical frequencies; interestingly, we found that the excess heat
 is sensitive to the beat difference frequency. Low-level thermal signals
 are observed to be triggered at apparent resonances when the difference
 frequency is 8.3,
 15.3 and 20.4 THz

 Perhaps, also related is the ultrasonic Superwave LENR stimulation used
 by Energetics Technologies -
 http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DardikIultrasonic.pdf
 My impression is that their source has a wideband discrete spectrum of
 phase-locked frequencies - so that the same stimulus signal is repeatedly
 swept.






RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Morning guys!

Yes, the state-space involves numerous variables, and their interactions
(e.g., CONstructive vs DEstructive interference)... trying to model it,
understand it, and then control it will likely be a monumental task.  The
complexity of the problem, and it's sensitivity to precise frequencies
(because we're dealing with resonances), also makes this a VERY difficult
thing to reproduce.
-mark

-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and
vibrational modes (phonons)...

Jones,

My reply was originally to Mark Iverson's thread - I don't know why it
started a new one.  Mark is citing some experiments showing that
photosynthesis is more efficient when driven by selected multiple fixed
frequencies, and wonders whether there is a connection with CF/LENR effects.

Good question on Ni-H.  Rossi apparently uses an RF-generator.  I have to
check on others, like Miley and Defkalion.  Energetics uses ultrasound -
their signal is imprecisely defined in their patent application,  but it's
clearly broadband, and appears to have a discrete picket-fench spectrum.

Based on the papers I've perused, I'd guess that optimal em/sonic
stimulation depends sensitively on particle size, temperature, morphology,
density, colloidal formations, crystallization patterns, proximity to
surfaces, ...

If Rossi's claims are accurate, I'd bet that National Instruments is trying
to (somehow) close the loop in this huge state-space to stay in the tiny and
elusive stable optimal operating spaces.

Thanks,
Lou Pagnucco


 Lou,

 This kind of photon stimulation was of great interest a few years ago 
 and is known as the Letts/Cravens effect. They had a tortuous path 
 to get it to a useful level when at EarthTech. Many null results in 
 the process. Are we there yet?

 At one time they also were saying that a magnetic field adds to the 
 effect.
 That is of keen interest as well, if this effect relates to quantum 
 entanglement, in any way.

 Two additional points of interest that jump out to the Ni-H crowd:

 1)This gain from optical stimulation applies to Pd-D. Does it apply
 equally to Ni-H?
 2)The highest gain is at ~15 THZ which is a IR emission (near IR)
 better known from its wavelength about 1.5 microns. This corresponds 
 to a blackbody temperature, so the laser only adds coherency.

 Actually the third point for interest for Ni-H watchers is derivative.

 If the answer to 1) is yes, then should not the active powder be in 
 the size range of 2)?



 Original Message-
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com

 Along those lines, you might want to read - PROGRESS ON DUAL LASER 
 EXPERIMENTS
 http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinprogresson.pdf


 EXCERPT:
 We have continued our experiments using duel laser stimulation of 
 electrochemically loaded PdD. In earlier work, we used two properly 
 oriented and polarized tunable diode lasers which provided stimulation 
 at optical frequencies; interestingly, we found that the excess heat 
 is sensitive to the beat difference frequency. Low-level thermal 
 signals are observed to be triggered at apparent resonances when the 
 difference frequency is 8.3,
 15.3 and 20.4 THz

 Perhaps, also related is the ultrasonic Superwave LENR stimulation 
 used by Energetics Technologies - 
 http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DardikIultrasonic.pdf
 My impression is that their source has a wideband discrete spectrum of 
 phase-locked frequencies - so that the same stimulus signal is 
 repeatedly swept.






RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
RE: Jones 'the color of vortex'
The video dude says:
I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves
with multiple harmonics

So, he is modulating the coil with audio-frequencies (20Hz to 20Khz???), and
the bulb is somewhere in the circuit containing the K-coil(s)??? Have I got
that right?

-mark

_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:31 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:The color of vortex?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzkvoTsixYfeature=related

why is this light emission blue? The implications of a tungsten filament
emitting at a higher frequency than expected is intriguing ...


attachment: winmail.dat

[Vo]:StarTrek Replicator?

2012-01-26 Thread Zell, Chris
see:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/01/24/161240/pirate-bay-to-offer-physical-item-downloads

Pirate Bay is offering downloadable files to create objects via newly available 
3-D printers.  Almost like transmitting a physical object over IP.

Remember this it might be a moment in history when the world began to 
change radically.


RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

2012-01-26 Thread Jones Beene
Did you see a scope shot? I would expect it to be typical of DPSR spiking -
but how that translates into the skewed light is not clear. If it is audible
frequencies, there should be more noise. Maybe he means high audible (above
10 kHz). 

There is an interesting cross-connection with the Letts/Cravens effect, and
that is why I posted it.

As best I can tell, the coil secondary is apparently is wound and then
counterwound, and the then the primary is counterwound on top of them, with
a gap. Looks to be air core. 

This probably results in a combination of DPSR interference peaks
(Dicke-Preparata Superradiance) but the subradiance is somehow suppressed. 

Interesting that the tungsten emission spectrum is so heavily skewed. It
would not surprise me that that there is a strong UV component now, which
was absent before.

_
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint 

RE: Jones 'the color of vortex'
The video dude says:
I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves
with multiple harmonics

So, he is modulating the coil with audio-frequencies (20Hz to 20Khz???), and
the bulb is somewhere in the circuit containing the K-coil(s)??? Have I got
that right?

-mark


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzkvoTsixYfeature=related

why is this light emission blue? The implications of a tungsten filament
emitting at a higher frequency than expected is intriguing ...


attachment: winmail.dat

[Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

2012-01-26 Thread jean guy moreau


Hi,
First English is not my native language so please forgive the way my phrases 
are structured.
 
From reading those fascinating messages on this list, i cannot help but notice 
that the basics of the magic reaction 
we are all wondering about is really simple after all. 
The right materials in the right geometry, plus a little helping energy and 
voila, bright future ahead.
 
If it is so simple, then nature must have found a way to utilize this source of 
energy, so maybe we should look again
at the energy balance of some living creatures, hummingbirds comes to mind, 
just dipping their tounge into a little nectar
and up they go flying hundred of Km.
 
Hummingbirds do something else that you can hear if you are close enough, they 
sing a strange chirping sound,
as do insect, in fact most animals produce some kind of sound, frequencies 
should we say ?
And of coures we have music all the time, in our ears and in our minds, don't 
we ?
 
So maybe Rossi is using a chirping RF generator to get his reactor going... 
 
Jean Guy Moreau
Quebec, Canada
  

Re: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell

Jones Beene wrote:


... as in dueling banjos

BTW - didn't you spell 'Jed' wrong?


Good grief!

Maybe I correct Peter's paper.

- Jed  J-E-D (which a certain unnamed person says is for 
Japanese-English Dictionary)




RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

2012-01-26 Thread Jones Beene
From: jean guy moreau 

 

So maybe Rossi is using a chirping RF generator to get his reactor going... 
 

Yes, this is the way the E-Cat sounds on Ham radio :-)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjsmzHbiZ3c

 



RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
No, didn't even see a scope!

There must be multiple reflections making it look like there is some really
unusual/complex filament structure inside the bulb...

Did you watch his (user: magnetvortex) other vids?

The one with the magnets in front of CRT (first color, then BW) is very
interesting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Zyk9jswO0

The BW test certainly appears to indicate a vortexial circulation causing
CRT's electrons to twist first clockwise then CCW depending on which
mag-pole is next to the CRT.

-Mark

_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:02 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?


Did you see a scope shot? I would expect it to be typical of DPSR spiking -
but how that translates into the skewed light is not clear. If it is audible
frequencies, there should be more noise. Maybe he means high audible (above
10 kHz). 

There is an interesting cross-connection with the Letts/Cravens effect, and
that is why I posted it.

As best I can tell, the coil secondary is apparently wound and then
counterwound, and then the primary is counterwound on top of them, with a
gap. Looks to be air core. 

This probably results in a combination of DPSR interference peaks
(Dicke-Preparata Superradiance) but the subradiance is somehow suppressed. 

Interesting that the tungsten emission spectrum is so heavily skewed. It
would not surprise me that there is a strong UV component now, which was
absent before.

_
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint 

RE: Jones 'the color of vortex'
The video dude says:
I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves
with multiple harmonics

So, he is modulating the coil with audio-frequencies (20Hz to 20Khz???), and
the bulb is somewhere in the circuit containing the K-coil(s)??? Have I got
that right?

-mark


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzkvoTsixYfeature=related

why is this light emission blue? The implications of a tungsten filament
emitting at a higher frequency than expected is intriguing ...


attachment: winmail.dat

Re: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 But 'duel' is strangely appropriate in the context of a beat (or
 complementary) wave

 ... as in dueling banjos

 BTW - didn't you spell 'Jed' wrong?

I thought both of them did it on purpose.

T



RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Check out his youtube channel, 
http://www.youtube.com/user/magnetvortex

and some of the comments on the lower-RH side, including link to this pdf.
http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf

-mark

_
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:50 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?


No, didn't even see a scope!

There must be multiple reflections making it look like there is some really
unusual/complex filament structure inside the bulb...

Did you watch his (user: magnetvortex) other vids?

The one with the magnets in front of CRT (first color, then BW) is very
interesting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Zyk9jswO0

The BW test certainly appears to indicate a vortexial circulation causing
CRT's electrons to twist first clockwise then CCW depending on which
mag-pole is next to the CRT.

-Mark

_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:02 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?


Did you see a scope shot? I would expect it to be typical of DPSR spiking -
but how that translates into the skewed light is not clear. If it is audible
frequencies, there should be more noise. Maybe he means high audible (above
10 kHz). 

There is an interesting cross-connection with the Letts/Cravens effect, and
that is why I posted it.

As best I can tell, the coil secondary is apparently wound and then
counterwound, and then the primary is counterwound on top of them, with a
gap. Looks to be air core. 

This probably results in a combination of DPSR interference peaks
(Dicke-Preparata Superradiance) but the subradiance is somehow suppressed. 

Interesting that the tungsten emission spectrum is so heavily skewed. It
would not surprise me that there is a strong UV component now, which was
absent before.

_
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint 

RE: Jones 'the color of vortex'
The video dude says:
I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves
with multiple harmonics

So, he is modulating the coil with audio-frequencies (20Hz to 20Khz???), and
the bulb is somewhere in the circuit containing the K-coil(s)??? Have I got
that right?

-mark


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzkvoTsixYfeature=related

why is this light emission blue? The implications of a tungsten filament
emitting at a higher frequency than expected is intriguing ...


attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Sounds like a horny cricket likes the warmth of his ham-shack!

J

My dad was a ham. W6PXZ.  

Good memories.

 

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:37 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

 

From: jean guy moreau 

 

So maybe Rossi is using a chirping RF generator to get his reactor going... 
 

Yes, this is the way the E-Cat sounds on Ham radio J

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjsmzHbiZ3c

 



RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Jean:

Do a web-search for Myron Evans.

 

He was a very prolific scientist/mathematician, and published quite a number
(over 100) of papers.

One topic he did considerable work on was RF-induced fermion resonances
using *circularly-polarized* RF, and I think there were also papers on
pulsed RF.

 

After he began interacting with Tom Bearden, his reputation suffered, and
many of the academics helping out with his foundation jumped ship. got that
directly from one of them!

 

-Mark

 

From: jean guy moreau [mailto:jgmorea...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:24 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

 

Hi,
First English is not my native language so please forgive the way my phrases
are structured.
 
From reading those fascinating messages on this list, i cannot help but
notice that the basics of the magic reaction 
we are all wondering about is really simple after all. 
The right materials in the right geometry, plus a little helping energy and
voila, bright future ahead.
 
If it is so simple, then nature must have found a way to utilize this source
of energy, so maybe we should look again
at the energy balance of some living creatures, hummingbirds comes to mind,
just dipping their tounge into a little nectar
and up they go flying hundred of Km.
 
Hummingbirds do something else that you can hear if you are close enough,
they sing a strange chirping sound,
as do insect, in fact most animals produce some kind of sound, frequencies
should we say ?
And of coures we have music all the time, in our ears and in our minds,
don't we ?
 
So maybe Rossi is using a chirping RF generator to get his reactor going... 
 
Jean Guy Moreau
Quebec, Canada



[Vo]:Fate of the quark model...

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I was reading the abstract for 

Anomalous mass of the neutron, 11/21/2011

on Rossi's JONP site, and there was this phase,

The quark model (d,u,d).

 

Is this perhaps descriptive of the quark model's ultimate fate?

J

-Mark

 



RE: [Vo]:Problem with flow calorimetry in Defkalion system

2012-01-26 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 05:24 PM 1/25/2012, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:

I was under the impression that the physical shape of Rossi's core was
similar to what was used in DGT's Hyperion?  More of a low-height,
rectangular shape...



I was going partly by :

From: Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com

Convection and radiation will tend to equalise temperature inside the 
reactor cavity pretty quickly regardless of where the heat source is 
within the cavity.  Page 4,5 of Dekaflion's Hyperion product details 
pdf from november shows a cross-section with a horizontal cylindrical 
geometry and lists 40mm diameter by 100mm long.


and by my memory of the C prototype in the Defkalion spec :

http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/120126_dgt_hyperion_001A.jpg

The central section is a cylinder, but the ends are pretty square. 
That would be a bit harder to wrap in my concentric cylinders. 



[Vo]:10 to 15 MW wind turbines under development

2012-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
See:

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/01/making-way-for-a-bigger-turbine

It is amazing how big these things are getting. Quote from article:


“The landscape is littered with people who predicted turbines couldn’t get
any bigger,” said Felker. “They said that at 50 kW. They said that at 100
kW. They said that at half a MW and they said that at 1 MW. It’s just silly
to predict a limitation because again and again, the industry has found
ways to innovate to get past technology barriers that are perceived at any
given size.”


Increased turbine size means the projections of total wind resources must
increase. The projections are based on the size of turbines available at
the time the projections are made. The larger turbines reach higher and
sweep a larger cross-section of the sky, so they produce more energy per
square kilometer of land.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

2012-01-26 Thread Ron Wormus

Jones
It looks like he ionized the Argon gas in the bulb. Is he using RF modulated with audio frequency 
sq waves? Still it should get hot.

Ron
--On Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:30 AM -0800 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net 
wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzkvoTsixYfeature=related

why is this light emission blue? The implications of a tungsten filament
emitting at a higher frequency than expected is intriguing ...









Re: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

2012-01-26 Thread Patrick Ellul
there's no Sylvester without Tweety. there's no e-cat without a humming
bird.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint 
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:

 Jean:

 Do a web-search for Myron Evans…

 ** **

 He was a very prolific scientist/mathematician, and published quite a
 number (over 100) of papers…

 One topic he did considerable work on was RF-induced fermion resonances
 using **circularly-polarized** RF, and I think there were also papers on
 pulsed RF.

 ** **

 After he began interacting with Tom Bearden, his reputation suffered, and
 many of the academics helping out with his foundation jumped ship… got that
 directly from one of them!

 ** **

 -Mark

 ** **

 *From:* jean guy moreau [mailto:jgmorea...@hotmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:24 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

 ** **

 Hi,
 First English is not my native language so please forgive the way my
 phrases are structured.

 From reading those fascinating messages on this list, i cannot help but
 notice that the basics of the magic reaction
 we are all wondering about is really simple after all.
 The right materials in the right geometry, plus a little helping energy
 and voila, bright future ahead.

 If it is so simple, then nature must have found a way to utilize this
 source of energy, so maybe we should look again
 at the energy balance of some living creatures, hummingbirds comes to
 mind, just dipping their tounge into a little nectar
 and up they go flying hundred of Km.

 Hummingbirds do something else that you can hear if you are close enough,
 they sing a strange chirping sound,
 as do insect, in fact most animals produce some kind of sound, frequencies
 should we say ?
 And of coures we have music all the time, in our ears and in our minds,
 don't we ?

 So maybe Rossi is using a chirping RF generator to get his reactor
 going...

 Jean Guy Moreau
 Quebec, Canada




-- 
Patrick

www.tRacePerfect.com
The daily puzzle everyone can finish but not everyone can perfect!
The quickest puzzle ever!


Re: [Vo]:Opponents should please go away and form your own group

2012-01-26 Thread Guenter Wildgruber





 John, this also goes the other way round,
although I welcome the purging of the group by the likes of MY, I also notice 
that it gets quite sterile, in the form of an ingroup discussion of nuclear 
chemists.
This is over my head, I must confess.
Being a -hopefully- level-headed engineer myself, -but not in the core 
profession of say: nuclear chemistry - I find this peripherally interesting, 
but not essential.

The list quickly devolved into an ingroup discussion of this or that detail in 
the 233 theories of what maybe the case.
If nobody does any real work on the topic, but only scholastizises on this or 
that, I do not see the point, to resolve anything.

Both are wrong. Lost balance.
This is a complicated issue on multiple dimensions.
Getting rid of pathological skeptics is one thing, focussing on a narrow 
technical issue, another.

I can leave the group by a non-click, so what is the point anyhow?
Well.
Say something relevant for the general public.
OR:
Be nuclear chemists doing some REAL work, i.e. devise setups, deliver results, 
and do not pretend being Einstein. 
-
Von: John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 21:56 Sonntag, 22.Januar 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Opponents should please go away and form your own group
 

You mean the Steorn that hand-picked a jury of scientists to test their 
technology, which then unanimously determined that Steorn failed to show any 
signs of excess energy?

RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

2012-01-26 Thread Jones Beene
Ron,

Yes - Maybe the color is due to argon plasma - which is blue color - but
still, it should not be stringy. The glow pattern seems to be coming from
only the filament, and too linear to be normal plasma, no? And it is a very
long filament. In another video he uses that same bulb, and the yellowish
light is seen which is more typical. Presumably they are both filled with
the same gas.

If the color were indicative of the blackbody radiation of tungsten, the
shift from yellow to blue represents about a 5000 degrees increase in
temperature, nearly double. Here is a chart that displays the applicable
temp - color variation in a dramatic way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PlanckianLocus.png

Since the intensity of light is less than expected with grid AC going
through the bulb, but the spectrum is shifted to blue, it seems like it must
be some kind of surface near field effect where the argon plasma stays very
near the metal as if captured.

OK. Eureka! just had a flash of insight. Here is a close-up of a typical
tungsten filament, showing the very tight secondary helix that is hard to
see without magnification.

http://twinkle_toes_engineering.home.comcast.net/~twinkle_toes_engineering/t
ungsten_filament.jpg
Perhaps argon plasma stays within this helix and gets heated by induction
and captured in a linear string? This is kinda like the 'stellarator' of
project Sherwood, but that is giving away my age.


-Original Message-
From: Ron Wormus 

Jones
It looks like he ionized the Argon gas in the bulb. Is he using RF modulated
with audio frequency sq waves? Still it should get hot.
Ron


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzkvoTsixYfeature=related

 why is this light emission blue? The implications of a tungsten filament
 emitting at a higher frequency than expected is intriguing ...




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[Vo]:FYI: National Intruments (NI) LENR group disapear

2012-01-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
note that
https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/lenr
the LENR community at NI seems having disapeared...
hidden or suppressed?


Re: [Vo]:FYI: National Intruments (NI) LENR group disapear

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Acland
It did get a lot of attention, and probably many people asked to join. I
see NI uses Jive software, and it's easy to make a group secret. It may
still be there, but cannot be found.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:

 note that
 https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/lenr
 the LENR community at NI seems having disapeared...
 hidden or suppressed?





-- 
Frank Acland
Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/


RE: [Vo]:Problem with flow calorimetry in Defkalion system

2012-01-26 Thread Alan J Fletcher


At 11:58 AM 1/26/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I HATE it when I search for something in google and all I get are my own
posts!
(At least I'm consistent in my terminology!)
But I came across an amusing 1890 calorimetric test: 
Tests on the efficiency of Westinghouse Converters

http://books.google.com/books?id=yp8vYAAJpg=PA85dq=%22tests+on+the+efficiency+of+westinghouse+converters%22hl=ensa=Xei=X9UhT6vUAsmtiQLjt4TyBwved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepageq=%22tests%20on%20the%20efficiency%20of%20westinghouse%20converters%22f=false
 





RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread francis
This article http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120120183038.htm
may have some bearing on your discussion.

 

[snip] Current T-ray imaging devices are very expensive and operate at only
a low output power, since creating the waves consumes large amounts of
energy and needs to take place at very low temperatures.

In the new technique, the researchers demonstrated that it is possible to
produce a strong beam of T-rays by shining light of differing wavelengths on
a pair of electrodes -- two pointed strips of metal separated by a 100
nanometre gap on top of a semiconductor wafer. The structure of the
tip-to-tip nano-sized gap electrode greatly enhances the THz field and acts
like a nano-antenna to amplify the wave generated. In this method, THz waves
are produced by an interaction between the electromagnetic waves of the
light pulses and a powerful current passing between the semiconductor
electrodes.

[/snip]



Re: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Guenter Wildgruber


Von:pagnu...@htdconnect.com pagnu...@htdconnect.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 18:25 Donnerstag, 26.Januar 2012
Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and
vibrational modes (phonons)...
...Rossi apparently uses an RF-generator.  

No. He does not.
If you carefully look at the videos of nyteknik, You can see that there is no
entry for an RF-gen into the system.
A RF-gen is a sophisticated device, I can tell You, and definitely cannot be
inside an enclosure which varies in the hundreds of degrees Celsius.
If the video of nyteknik is showing the 'real' thing, there is no RF-gen in the
system!

Anyone supposing that there is one, did not pay attention!
Plus: Anyone assuming that controlling an RF-gen of significant power (Watts)
in an an environment, where temperatures vary in the hundreds of degrees, is
either a fool or a physicist.


RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

2012-01-26 Thread Jones Beene
From: Guenter Wildgruber 

 A RF-gen is a sophisticated device, I can tell You, and definitely cannot
be inside an enclosure which varies in the hundreds of degrees Celsius.

Is this some kind of joke? 

Your background must be in communications or entertainment. How can anyone
define RF as sophisticated for use in energy devices? ROTFL. That borders
on absurdity. We are not talking about a need for precision waves for the
audiophile, nor information transfer for computers, nor anything other than
what would otherwise be called spiky (superradiant) noise.

A single diode, properly placed, can convert DC to what is arguably RF -
if one is so tolerant as to admit that a certain high level of noise is not
a problem and can be an advantage.

Jones


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Re: [Vo]:StarTrek Replicator?

2012-01-26 Thread Drowning Trout
This coupled coupled with nano-manufacturing! Imagine being able to browse
a database of objects/designs to assemble atom by atom!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spr5PWiuRaY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycEK2IZ0wYw

But indeed 3-D printers, one step closer!

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:

 **
 see:

 http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/01/24/161240/pirate-bay-to-offer-physical-item-downloads

 Pirate Bay is offering downloadable files to create objects via newly
 available 3-D printers.  Almost like transmitting a physical object over IP.

 Remember this it might be a moment in history when the world began to
 change radically.