Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LL -- Larsen Webradio Interview with Sandy Andrew, July 11 2012 by Lewis Larsen [ interview April 17, 2010 ]: Rich Murray 2012.07.11

2012-07-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
This is more a language problem that a technical one. Initial hypothesis on LENR were mostly trying to know how to overcome coulomb barrier, to allow the nuclear fusion. WL, Fisher, Kozima hypothesis assume playing with neutrons... let's say that you plan to invade a castle and make the canon

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Hydrinos

2012-07-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, I agree with your statement [snip] These hydrinos only form when electrons are entangled in special materials and hydrinos are not ubiquitous throughout nature as Mills claims. [/snip] but would add geometry to you description : These hydrinos only form when electrons are

[Vo]:It's chemical, not nuclear... at least when its Alumina.

2012-07-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
FYI: Jed, you might want to add this to your library… http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040603112002742 Don’t know what this proves as far as Ni/H or Pd/D systems are concerned… there are significant differences: - they used alumina powder (Al2O3), and Al is

Re: [Vo]: European commission recommends funding for LENR research

2012-07-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
The article is by Vittorio Violante. It starts on p. 23. Pretty good. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:27 PM 7/11/2012, David Roberson wrote: Abd, do you have information concerning the relative magnitude of the power input drop relative to the nominal value in its absence? Are we speaking of a large percentage change? The change is significant. I saw this in certain data, and

[Vo]:DARPA Nanotech Project - $34 million investigating cold fusion and excess heat was found

2012-07-12 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is via nextbigfuture.com, thread subject included. It appears that DARPA is spending $34 million to research LENR (among other things) in a project on nanoscale materials, although they don't directly state so. They managed to generate excess heat for 2.5 days. Follow this

Re: [Vo]: European commission recommends funding for LENR research

2012-07-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The article is by Vittorio Violante. It starts on p. 23. Pretty good Yes. I very much enjoyed: The target was achieved and the existence of the effect is no longer in doubt. Can Fleischmann have his Nobel now, before

RE: [Vo]:DARPA Nanotech Project - $34 million investigating cold fusion and excess heat was found

2012-07-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Excellent find Akira!! Very interesting how they completely avoided the usual terms, CF or LENR, in describing it... probably to avoid the exact thing that happened to Hagelstein. Anyone who dismisses the overwhelming evidence now is either ignorant, or pathologically skeptical, or part of the

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:00 PM 7/11/2012, Rich Murray wrote: maybe, the cathode becomes coated with many micro and nano bubbles, raising its surface electrical resistance -- then micro and nano explosions on the surface, which quickly becomes much more rugged with tractal geometry, expose the metal directly to the

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:44 PM 7/11/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Could this be an indication of the onset of ballistic conduction in some micro-/nano-channels? I first want to know what this is before going much into possible explanations! The proposed explanation here seems overly complex to me,

[Vo]:Rossi conspiracy-- Three parts

2012-07-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Part ONE The S Korea ICCF17-symposium approaching, plus some soon to be revealed 'breakthroughs'  by Rossi/DGT, we should consider other optional realities, as improbable as they may be. Probability being in the eye of the beholder. Now to repeat: I think LENR is real, but have some doubts

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:07 PM 7/11/2012, Axil Axil wrote: Could this be an indication of the establishment of entangled electron states resulting in mass increase related to heavy electrons? Recently, heavy electrons have been shown to be an indicator of an onset of superconductive conditions. Axil Gee,

[Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two

2012-07-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Rossi conspiracy, part TWO. Here I concentrate on Rossi/DGT, which somehow seem to be joined at the hip. The genealogy seems to be clear: Piantelli/Focardi - Rossi - DGT Rossi improved on P/F, then DGT stole something and improved, then Rossi improved. Here we are: the 600degC solid-state

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:19 PM 7/11/2012, Nigel Dyer wrote: I would agree that looking at the physical state of the water/bubbles at the surface of the electrode is a good idea. There was some work done many years ago on the sound of various chemical reactions. The sound of jelly setting was particularly odd

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:29 PM 7/11/2012, David Roberson wrote: A thought occurred to me concerning the drop in equivalent resistance that this thread covers. It would be quite important if the drop were due to a reverse voltage generated by the LENR mechanism that could be improved in such a manner as to act

RE: [Vo]:DARPA Nanotech Project - $34 million investigating cold fusion and excess heat was found

2012-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Hmm ... $35M is a trickle from Darpa ... but how many billion butterfly's tears does that represent?

RE: [Vo]:DARPA Nanotech Project - $34 million investigating cold fusion and excess heat was found

2012-07-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Not only that, but it's been going down each year... 2011 2012 2013 16.74511.6505.500 (in millions of $) But, they may have more efforts buried under different program headings...this budget is 336 pages. -mark -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher

[Vo]:rossi-Conspiracy-- Part III

2012-07-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Part III and end: now the conspiracy: Rossi is actually an agent, to ultimately prove the ridiculousness of LENR. Hint: Rossi does not ask for money from unsuspecting customers. He does not need that! He is financed by some obscure sources, which I can only speculate about who they are. His

Re: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two

2012-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:23 PM 7/12/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote: Mats Lewan from Nyteknik had to resign because of what? Sloppy bullshitting. Since the elimination of M.L. from Nyteknik staff, all LENR reporting stopped. Why? Ask yourself. As far as I can see, Mats is still with NyTeknik -- eg

Re: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two

2012-07-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote: Mats Lewan from Nyteknik had to resign because of what? Sloppy bullshitting. Lewan is still there as far as I know. He would have told me otherwise. There is nothing sloppy about his reports. Given the difficulty of dealing with Rossi they are

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Axil Axil
Here is a way to test my guess. One indicator that the alpha particles come from fusion is a lack of light nuclear transmutation products; products with an atomic number less than the cathode material. From the begining, the assumption has always been that helium is a product of deuterium

RE: [Vo]:DARPA projects...

2012-07-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
There is enough Holy-sh*t Batman stuff in this budget report/request to make the most extreme nerd crème-his-jeans for months! Here are just a few: Coherent Collective Dynamics (Topological Insulators): - Developed physics of topological insulators guiding the production of interconnects to

[Vo]:Also from the DARPA doc... Can you say, 'Person of Interest'?

2012-07-12 Thread Mark Iverson
Life imitating Art, or vice-a-versa? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Person_of_Interest_episodes http://www.cbs.com/shows/person_of_interest/episodes/ Title: Anomaly Detection at Multiple Scales (ADAMS) Description: The Anomaly Detection at Multiple Scales (ADAMS) program will

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LL -- Larsen Webradio Interview with Sandy Andrew, July 11 2012 by Lewis Larsen [ interview April 17, 2010 ]: Rich Murray 2012.07.11

2012-07-12 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:04:47 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] Am I mistaken in my understanding that the strong force is associated with binding energy within the nucleus? No. I would consider their process a use of the weak force to generate neutrons followed

Re: [Vo]: European commission recommends funding for LENR research

2012-07-12 Thread Axil Axil
Satyendra Nath Bose died in 1974. It is against the rules of the Noble award to issue this prize to a dead man, but such an award has been done under unusual circumstances. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:08

Re: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two

2012-07-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Nyteknik/Mats Lewan  stopped reporting about LENR as of Feb 28, 2012. Yes. He seems to be reporting about drones as late as late as June 12, 2012 at Nyteknik, but nothing wrt LENR. Google 'LENR Nyteknik' and you see that it stops at Feb 28, with a hefty 460 comments in swedish. Maybe Mats

Re: [Vo]: European commission recommends funding for LENR research

2012-07-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Satyendra Nath Bose died in 1974. It is against the rules of the Noble award to issue this prize to a dead man, but such an award has been done under unusual circumstances. Only by accident. They did not realize the poor fellow had died. That happened last

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread David Roberson
An alternative to fusion is the lowering of the coulomb barrier which increases the probability of alpha particle emissions from the heavy element nucleus. I must not understand your point here. If the barrier is lowered then it would seem that an alpha particle would exhibit less of a

RE: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two

2012-07-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I agree with Jed here. Guenter wrote: --- Mats Lewan from Nyteknik had to resign because of what? Sloppy bullshitting. Since the elimination of M.L. from Nyteknik staff, all LENR reporting stopped. Why? - Guenter wrote these not as questions, but explicit

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:59:54 -0700: Hi, [snip] Ed Storms has estimated that to generate 1 watt of power, a typical output, by way of helium production, you would need on the order of 10^12 reactions per second. (I think this is probably for a 1 cm^3 volume, but

[Vo]:Of Tunneling and Tribulations...

2012-07-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Vorts, et.al., Been doin' some searching/reading on tunneling, and want to pass on this info. .. A theoretician (Boris Ivlev) has been developing a hypothesis. preprints and a few published in peer-reviewed journals, 23 papers since 2000. search results are at end of this msg. Also

Re: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy, part Two

2012-07-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
I just found that: Lewan set up his own blog at http://matslew.wordpress.com/ There we have an interesting gap from feb28 to apr28, where he mentions the fabulous 'job' listings of of DGT: 21 jobs. This quite probably is just vaporware, as far as my humble experience goes. If companies just

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Axil Axil
The coulomb barrier is symmetric. It is just as hard to get a proton out of the nucleus as it is to get a proton into a it. In 1928, George Gamow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gamow had solved the theory of the alpha decay via tunneling. The alpha particle is trapped in a potential well

Re: [Vo]:DARPA Nanotech Project - $34 million investigating cold fusion and excess heat was found

2012-07-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Hmm ... $35M is a trickle from Darpa ... but how many billion butterfly's tears does that represent? We should speak very quietly. DARPA are our folks. Somehow, doing whatever they do, however they do it, they brought us

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:49 PM 7/12/2012, Axil Axil wrote: Here is a way to test my guess. One indicator that the alpha particles come from fusion is a lack of light nuclear transmutation products; products with an atomic number less than the cathode material. The indicator that helium is coming from fusion

Re: [Vo]:Cell resistance drop at initiation of XP burst in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect

2012-07-12 Thread Axil Axil
*The indicator that helium is coming from fusion is that it is correlated to anomalous heat, in the FPHE, at approximately the deuterium fusion ratio. * This assumption must be tested. If the precise composition of the reaction ash from the reaction is studied in detail, assumptions about the