From the half-baked (but edible) department
Hybrids are everywhere these days. Technology is merging, and borrowing, and
looking for synergy. Solar energy too, is beginning to move in a surprising
way due to information technology hybridization.
Fiber optic cable is not yet involved in
http://phys.org/news/2012-12-tiny-low-cost-terahertz-imager-chip.html
this has game changer written all over it from LENR to opening up huge
spectrums of communication bandwidth.
Novel concept side steps cutoff frequency using groups of transistors to open
and other groups to then close an
At 12:50 AM 12/12/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
I think it is Bob Rohner's company that has the
kits, and he appears to be making them
available, contrary to John Rohner's wishes,Â
if I remember correctly. Â It also looks like
Bob Rohner's kit is the one that Russ Gries is
testing out in the
http://pesn.com/2012/12/10/9602241_Inteligentry_Egg-on-Face_PowerGen/
PowerGen opened and no running demonstration engine.
Now, what I notice on the PESN page is a comment
from a licensee, Ben Gresham, representing GG
Products Family of Companies, LLC.
They have two non-running engines they
This is a popular song published by Metro Trains of Melbourne, Australia:
http://dumbwaystodie.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/nov/28/dumb-ways-to-die-video
There have been some notably dangerous cold fusion experiments. Abd's
whacking at beryllium comes to mind. Stan Gleeson
Want the public to heed global warming threats? Cap carbon emissions,
pay dividends to everyone
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/12/11/opinion/want-the-public-to-heed-global-warming-threats-cap-carbon-emissions-pay-dividends-to-everyone/
This approach to reducing carbon emissions defines
Robin,
I agree most of LENR is mediated by the same force responsible for
hydrinos but I would disagree that hydrinos are the mediating force,
In Jan Naudt's relativistic interpretation of Mill's hydrino only the hydrogen
being ejected from the corona has a near enough velocity to C to
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:34:37 +:
Hi Fran,
I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree. ;)
Robin,
I agree most of LENR is mediated by the same force responsible for
hydrinos but I would disagree that hydrinos are the mediating
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Mon, 10 Dec 2012
07:47:21 -0600:
Hi,
The point I have been trying to make, is that no telepathy is required for this,
just sharp eyes and a sense of self preservation.
From Robin:
... In either case, it's obvious that each bird
Good idea!
- Jed
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/176-eu-cell-2-active-wire-run
Promising results are shown from EU cell of MFMP !
Arnaud
In reply to James Bowery's message of Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:00:29 -0600:
Hi,
This appears to be the corollary of my definition of a dictatorship. A country
is a dictatorship when it takes measures to prevent it's citizens from leaving.
[snip]
A Republican form of government has the primary duty,
The reason why Russ is using so much spark power (500 joules ) is because
he is following the system that Bob Rohner built which does NOT use
pre-ionization. The new control circuit that Russ has invented will
pre-ionize the spark channel with a low amperage high voltage spark of
about 90, 000
On 2012-12-12 22:08, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/176-eu-cell-2-active-wire-run
Promising results are shown from EU cell of MFMP !
It seems that even taking into account the most conservative baseline to
determine output power by curve fitting (to the
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:21:55 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The reason why Russ is using so much spark power (500 joules ) is because
he is following the system that Bob Rohner built which does NOT use
pre-ionization. The new control circuit that Russ has invented will
You can follow this latest replication live here:
http://data.hugnetlab.com/
Click on 'View' for Celani Cell #2 and you can follow the live graph.
If you have Google+, you can join a live hangout with them and talk to
them in real time. The hangout is 'MFMP'.
Craig
The have 48 watts of input power now and are getting out 52 - 54 watts
on their conservative estimate. Their optimistic estimate shows them at
around 67 - 70 watts out.
Craig
On 12/12/2012 04:45 PM, Craig wrote:
You can follow this latest replication live here:
http://data.hugnetlab.com/
In past experiments, Russ has shown that a 40,000 high voltage discharge
does not produce piston movement. This is one reason that I distrust the
workability of the J. Rohner system. Russ’s current design is the exactly
thr B Rohner design. IMHO, the parameter that is causative is
On 2012-12-12 22:47, Craig wrote:
The have 48 watts of input power now and are getting out 52 - 54 watts
on their conservative estimate. Their optimistic estimate shows them at
around 67 - 70 watts out.
The conservative estimate is *really* conservative. Basically, it's the
calibration with
Akira said :
I think it's safe to say that the MFMP finally successfully replicated
Celani's anomalous thermal effect from his treated Constantan wires. The
next step is now to determine whether that is a real effect or it's all
due to a really unexpected artifact lurking somewhere.
I would
On 2012-12-12 22:57, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
I would be a little more conservative. The excess power must be kept for
more than an hour or two, to at least remove any chemical reaction that may
occur.
As shown now, the excess power has decreased just above 4W. That excess heat
might not stay long.
A self sustained system will insure that the excess heat effect is real.
That means put 12m of Celani's wire inside the cell (4W *12 = 48 equal to
input power). But the system will become very unstable. The 4W is an average
calculated so far from results today. As Rossi claims to do, a buffer of
On 2012-12-12 22:57, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
As shown now, the excess power has decreased just above 4W. That excess heat
might not stay long. Cross finger that it will happen.
It looks like it increased again. Now it's at almost 8W. No apparent
change in input power or external conditions.
At 03:13 PM 12/12/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This is a popular song published by Metro Trains of Melbourne, Australia:
http://dumbwaystodie.com/http://dumbwaystodie.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/nov/28/dumb-ways-to-die-video
There have been some notably dangerous cold fusion
I suspect a correlation with ambient temperature with a delay of around 6~8
min. The ambient temperature went down at 23:20 and the calculated excess
power decreased a few minutes later, now at 6W
On 2012-12-12 22:57, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
As shown now, the excess power has decreased just
I am confused about the location(s). Where exactly is/are the Celani
replications occuring?
Harry
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2012-12-12 22:47, Craig wrote:
The have 48 watts of input power now and are getting out 52 - 54 watts
on
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Good idea!
- Jed
another good idea which will be ignored. ;-)
Harry
Minnesota for US
South of France for EU
I am confused about the location(s). Where exactly is/are the Celani
replications occuring?
Harry
On 2012-12-12 23:39, Harry Veeder wrote:
I am confused about the location(s). Where exactly is/are the Celani
replications occuring?
In Europe (France) and in the US (Minnesota).
The replication apparently showing excess heat as of now is the European
one, which is very close to the original
At 04:01 PM 12/12/2012, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Mon, 10 Dec 2012
07:47:21 -0600:
Hi,
The point I have been trying to make, is that no telepathy is
required for this,
just sharp eyes and a sense of self preservation.
Just
Pretty low bar.
ken deboer
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to James Bowery's message of Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:00:29 -0600:
Hi,
This appears to be the corollary of my definition of a dictatorship. A
country
is a dictatorship when it takes measures to
ok, thanks
harry
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote:
Minnesota for US
South of France for EU
I am confused about the location(s). Where exactly is/are the Celani
replications occuring?
Harry
Thanks. I hope they do the calorimetry soon.
That should reveal or eliminate any possible heating artifact once and for all.
harry
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2012-12-12 23:39, Harry Veeder wrote:
I am confused about the location(s).
Robin, plasma physics has some interesting behavior regarding the kink
instability that you should consider here. Specifically, consider a
current traveling through a plasma in a straight line -- no kink. Now
consider a helical path for that same current so that it forms what might
be thought of
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
The point I have been trying to make, is that no telepathy is required for this,
just sharp eyes and a sense of self preservation.
Probably. But you never know with birds. They can sense magnetism, for
example, which they use to migrate. Who knows what else they can
Forwarding to the list...
- Forwarded Message -
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: Adrian Sampaleanu asam...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Those EMP weapons (and your cellphone) could actually be
doing more personal harm than previously
At 04:21 PM 12/12/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
The reason why Russ is using so much spark power (500 joules ) is
because he is following the system that Bob Rohner built which
does NOT use pre-ionization.
Axil, I'm not particularly interested in why an experimenter did
something, but in what
OK, so it looks like personal imaging scanners will be coming to a cell phone
near you. If I hadn't just watched the Resonance documentary I'd be happy to
see this.
-- Adrian
From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
At 04:47 PM 12/12/2012, Craig wrote:
The have 48 watts of input power now and are getting out 52 - 54
watts on their conservative estimate. Their optimistic estimate
shows them at around 67 - 70 watts out.
This may be unfair, because it's a reaction to Craig's comment and
not the MFM
Today 12/12/12 was an appropriate day for the announcement of a Celani
replication, no?
After all … the number twelve is special – it’s central to several of the
world’s great religions and to the Western calendar– 12 months and so on.
And this is the last day that we will have the month, day
I belive it would be better to do a comparison between cells. The idea is
to build four cells: 2 exactly as Celani's; and 2 again exactly as
Celani's, but without active wires. With proper mounting, the four cells
can have wires almost identical (size and initial resistance). Therefore,
they could
The results from the latest test run of the MFMP Celani replication are
definitely interesting, but there appear to be some strange things happening.
I assume that the power being inputted to the device has an equal effect upon
the outer glass temperature regardless of the drive wire. I am
As it should be. It is a lousy idea. If costs to do business increases,
don't you think companies won't simply pass it on to their consumers. That
means us. In today's donkeykong economy, we don't need another tax to fix a
non-existent problem.
But more importantly, can we moderate this
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
At 04:47 PM 12/12/2012, Craig wrote:
The have 48 watts of input power now and are getting out 52 - 54 watts on
their conservative estimate. Their optimistic estimate shows them at around
67 - 70 watts out.
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Today 12/12/12 was an appropriate day for the announcement of a Celani
replication, no?
I love the timing! I think the experiment kicked off at 12:12:12 in the
afternoon.
I hope we don't find it only works at specific dates and times
mystically
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:47 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Why do we see a breathing type of effect?
This is exactly the term used by McKubre. It occurs in DPd reactions
as the metal is loaded to 90+% then allowed to unload. The gas moves
into the crystal structure and out
Twice the beast: 666
Something I haven't seen any discussion about is the amount of energy
required to load materials with hydrogen to be used in these various
LENR/CF devices. If that energy is taken into account, are the claims of
excess energy from the operation of the devices still valid?
[mg]
Yes, McKubre takes the endothermic loading and exothermic off loading
into his calculations in his work at SRI.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Something I haven't seen any discussion about is the amount of energy
required to load materials with hydrogen to
I believe the initial endothermic event is the collapse of matter within
the void creating a ball of entropy, which then in turn begins to trigger
beta decay in its surroundings releasing some heat, this will be a
continual cycle as long as you can keep triggering the collapse.
Stewart
On Wed,
This is so strange. I set the data in View Test Celani Cell #2, found here:
http://data.hugnetlab.com/
to view back 4 hours. Then I selected only P_Xs Low. Notice that the
excess power is oscillating between 4 watts and 8 watts, in a very
precise rhythm, with each wave appearing to have the same
With NiH loading is not an issue. It seems we have two totally
different LENR reactions occuring. Are they based on the same
physics? Maybe yes, maybe no.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, McKubre takes the endothermic loading and exothermic off
I should say percentage of loading does not appear to be an issue.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
With NiH loading is not an issue. It seems we have two totally
different LENR reactions occuring. Are they based on the same
physics? Maybe yes, maybe
And what about in the MFM Project?
[m]
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, McKubre takes the endothermic loading and exothermic off loading
into his calculations in his work at SRI.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Why is it not an issue?
[m]
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
With NiH loading is not an issue. It seems we have two totally
different LENR reactions occuring. Are they based on the same
physics? Maybe yes, maybe no.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:26
It's the cracks per Storms. The reactions appear to occur at the
surfaces only. In solid Pd, you have to saturate the crystalline
structure. With high surface areas in Ni powder or Celani's treated
(cracked) wire, there is much more surface area so loading of the
total crystal is much less in
Defkalion actually alters the crystalline structure. Cracks do not
appear to be the issue in their reaction. They have found a secret in
altering the crystal structure to increase the reaction. I'll bet
that the reactions occur at the surface still.
Note that Defkalion uses nickel foam, not
Jed sed:
Today 12/12/12 was an appropriate day for the announcement
of a Celani replication, no?
I love the timing! I think the experiment kicked off at 12:12:12
in the afternoon.
I hope we don't find it only works at specific dates and times
mystically correlated with the
You have to expose electrons in the Ni by altering the structure of
the crystal or creating cracks so that they can influence the excited
electrons in the nascent hydrogen and, using exclusion, the Ni
electrons influence the positions of the H electorns making the H
atoms momentarily appear to be
On 2012-12-13 03:29, Craig wrote:
This is so strange. I set the data in View Test Celani Cell #2, found here:
http://data.hugnetlab.com/
to view back 4 hours. Then I selected only P_Xs Low. Notice that the
excess power is oscillating between 4 watts and 8 watts, in a very
precise rhythm, with
I wonder if Rossi has observed a similar breathing effect. Recalling
the graph from his sept (?) 2011 demo reminds me of the first
oscillation of the graph below.
Rossi may have choosen to limit the length of his public
demonstrations to conceal the oscillations and perhaps his diffiiculty
in
Why not?
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I should say percentage of loading does not appear to be an issue.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
With NiH loading is not an issue. It seems we have two totally
The breathing correlates with T_Mica very well. Isn't this the
temperature of the wire? If so, then it's actually power that is
oscillating. I was thinking it might be something in the room environment.
Craig
On 12/12/2012 09:49 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2012-12-13 03:29, Craig wrote:
This
OK here is some mysticism for 12/12/12.
Verlinde in 2011 published a ground breaking analysis that showed that
gravity could be explained by the entropic force projected as a holograph
on the surface of a black hole. I showed recently that the magnetic field
and auroras from the Earth match
I once did some calculation with the volume of the wire, it seems that at
14Watts of output, you have an output equivalent of the same volume in
gasoline burned every 2 minutes. It's an amazing quantity of energy for
such small volume. And gasoline surely holds much more energy/volume than a
What about an interview with Witch Doctor again? Next time, you can select
some questions from vortex and ask him.
2012/12/13 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
Jed sed:
** **
Today 12/12/12 was an appropriate day for the announcement
of a Celani
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:50:54 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Great minds think alike, could be the saying, but, of course, this is
just the ordinary human mind! We can think alike, in unexpected
ways. My own theory is that the intense visual concentration that
With Regards to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax comment on pre-ionization…
The Papp reaction is hard to get a handle on because Papp produced two
patents with multiple “Preferred Embodiments.”
Having stated this declaimer up front, as far as I can tell at this
juncture, Papp used alpha particle emitting
This one gives an argument of a brief overunity period in the cycle;
Primary field collapse/ secondary remains at 150 volts
http://www.flickr.com/photos/harvich/8268880630/
All three of the three phase cycles have induced voltages superimposed upon
them from the center element in each mutual
At 09:17 PM 12/12/2012, Mark Gibbs wrote:
Something I haven't seen any discussion about is the amount of
energy required to load materials with hydrogen to be used in these
various LENR/CF devices. If that energy is taken into account, are
the claims of excess energy from the operation of the
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
to view back 4 hours. Then I selected only P_Xs Low. Notice that the
excess power is oscillating between 4 watts and 8 watts, in a very precise
rhythm, with each wave appearing to have the same shape, and with each wave
I wrote:
Re almost hourly fluctuations in T_Ambient -- the HVAC system kicking in
periodically, maybe?
Also, do any of the electronics folks here know what the effect might be on
the instrumentation providing us with a measure for P_in if the external
power supply were erratic?
Eric
Wow! Hahn Certainly has major sores on his face and head. I don't see how he
would get those from a few smoke detectors, Unless he extracted the americium
and was really messing with it. Skin lesions can be a symptom of acute
berylliosis. Maybe he was trying to make neutrons in a big way and
I looked at the voltage, current, and R/R0 values over various periods and
they all look completely flat to me. I don't see any evidence of erratic
power supply behavior. I'm not so sure about the correlation with T_ambient
either. If you zoom to the 14:00 - 14:50 period the ambient temp drops
Got from another LENR researcher:
There are several reported values for the enthalpy of formation of nickel
hydride with -8.8 kJ/mol being the lowest and -16.3 kJ/mol being the
highest at standard temperature and pressure.
He went on to show that given a wire containing 0.3g of Ni, enthalpy
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