On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 08:39:31PM -0400, Axil Axil wrote:
Why does this post disturb you?
Because scammers don't need free press.
I'd rather read about details of reproducible
anomalous heat experiments.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Of course it is erratic. The only question is: Is it erratic because of
random error or because the required conditions are not created every time.
We now know that certain critical conditions are required, which are
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote:
If this is such indisputable proof, why is it that intelligent people
don't buy it? Do they hate the thought of clean and abundant energy? We
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote:
You need positive credible evidence to convince people that cold fusion
is real. And there isn't any.
It's a little painful to watch this
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
any real-life scientist claiming that you can work on cold fusion without
ruining your career is...
LYING.
That's a reflection of what mainstream science thinks of cold fusion. It
doesn't answer the question of
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Plate tectonics were accepted when the evidence became overwhelming,
particularly the fossil and seismologic evidence. Yes, it took a a long
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
plate tectonics evidence where overwhelming much before they were accepted.
there was explanation for the moving mechanisme decades before.
Maybe much before they were universally accepted. Support grew with the
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
In Storms' book I think there are 180 positive excess heat studies.
Each one typically reflects several excess heat events. A few were based
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Going by peer-reviewed literature, it's almost stopped now.
***I see you're changing your stance. Earlier you said it had stopped.
Always be careful of context, semantics, and qualifiers.
In the context of giving
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm glad to hear that NI donated a PCMCIA card. Did they go out on a limb
and say (as with Cold Fusion) There is an unknown physical event?
Nope.
It's self evident that there are images of an unknown physical entity.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote:
You're right. Polywater is different from cold fusion in that it was
debunked to everyone's satisfaction.
That may or may not happen in cold
Amazin' stuff, water:
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/strange.html
The first chapters of the Franks book describe some of the mysteries of
water, and things like water structure. There is no doubt that liquid water
molecules have structure.
Franks says: Physicists claim a much better understanding of esoteric
substances like liquid helium or liquid nitrogen than
2013/5/9 Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
don't cite semiconductors.
or please re-read the history of the conductance anomalies or Germanium.
One of the many reason that make me accept the LENr papers is Germanium
histpry (and please, read the real history, not the wiki-revisionist
history)
please read.
what have stagnated is your knowledge.
illiteracy is a serious disease.
ok i'm joking, you are clearly literate, just delusioned and selectively
blind like what roland benabou describe
http://www.princeton.edu/~rbenabou/papers/Groupthink%20IOM%207p%20paper.pdf
you are not alone, it
It is well-known that people engaged in wishful thinking often see patterns
where there are none. This is why a gambler believes in a lucky talisman.
It is less often noted that people in extreme denial sometimes look at a
clear pattern and fail to see it. Any reasonable person looking at McKubre
polywater artifact were proven...
LENr is proven, tritium, he4, many factor are studied.
don' use manipulation techniques, it is shameful of someone working in
scientific domain.
I work in corp and I know the techniques.
LENr in hydrides is LENR in hydrides. it is proven, yen not understood.
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
Polywater may come back to embarrass the so called 'competent' scientific
community...
Enter capitalism, where embarrassment means laughing all the way to the
bank:
http://www.polywater.com/
OK- one can argue that the successful products of this company are
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
It is experuimental anomalies, proven far below 50sigma, with many kind of
anomalies proven, correlation with real-world factors and not with possible
artifact source...
The role of correlation and real-world control factors is often overlooked,
On May 9, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
It is well-known that people engaged in wishful thinking often see
patterns where there are none. This is why a gambler believes in a
lucky talisman. It is less often noted that people in extreme denial
sometimes look at a clear pattern and
On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
It is experuimental anomalies, proven far below 50sigma, with many
kind of anomalies proven, correlation with real-world factors and
not with possible artifact source...
The role of correlation
Greetings Vortex-L
One of the best articles on bizarre water properties was publish by the
New Scientist.
Sadit is now for pay but:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15420874.600-wacky-water.html
Respectfuly,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
From: Joshua Cude
Kevin, You just drove a stake through the heart of one of
the silliest arguments on record.
Cude: Tritium is detected at levels below what is necessary
to explain excess heat
Who cares? TRITIUM IS DETECTED ! Get
It acts like a solid when punched...
Cornstarch Water - Explained by Physicists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfynrsdaV0
and will fracture and shatter when it is hit with enough force.
SHOOTING Non-Newtonian Fluid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THJpMeAaKzE
What does this have to do with
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
It acts like a solid when punched...
Cornstarch Water - Explained by Physicists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfynrsdaV0
and will fracture and shatter when it is hit with enough force.
SHOOTING Non-Newtonian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3yGjve4mlUsns=em
Sent from my iPad
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/260185.php
I wonder who funded this test.
If no testing was done with real wifi signals, it only proves that the
associated symptoms can have psychological triggers.
Harry
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/260185.php
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
since instead of a water with a few
percent silicates picked up from glass tubing to form a polymer, this
commercial product is using a mix a few percent water-soluble polymers
dissolved in mostly water. Did you catch the slight distinction there?
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
* Heat appears with D but not H.
This is not true. Heat has been measured when H is used.
Only a few people have detected heat with Pd-H. Fleischmann found marginal
heat, and you reported some. Let me put this way: heat comes a lot more
readily
On May 9, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
* Heat appears with D but not H.
This is not true. Heat has been measured when H is used.
Only a few people have detected heat with Pd-H. Fleischmann found
marginal heat, and you reported some.
Cude said
“The evidence for cold fusion is a dog's breakfast of inconsistent claims
of excess heat and various products of nuclear reaction. After 24 years,
there is still not an experiment that anyone skilled in the art can do, and
get quantitatively predictable positive results, whether it's
Cude wrote:
After 24 years, there is still not an experiment that anyone skilled in
the art can do, and get quantitatively predictable positive results,
whether it's excess heat, tritium, or helium (or an unequivocally positive
result).”
Yes, there is. It was published in 1996. See:
Generally the density of liquid water tends to increase with decreasing
temperature.
However water density is a maximum at a temperature of +4 degree C
and a pressure of 1 Bar so that the density decreases slightly as the
temperature approaches O degree C. At higher pressures the maximum density
not new
same result for GMM wave.
maye it have been teste for voodoo fear, and other black sorcery...
people are condemned in court in africa for such induced disease.
soon in EU.
2013/5/9 Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/260185.php
The recent amendments of Rossi's patent claims and his comment during the
recent interview broadcasted this week where Rossi stated that enrichment
of Nickel to Ni-62 and Ni-64 is an important part of his techology and that
enriched Nickel works much better makes me wonder.
Current quotes that I
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2013/03/details-emerge-on-boeing-787.html
*Details emerge on Boeing 787 lithium-ion battery fix; FAA testing half over
*
Could LENR be proved by the meltdown of the Lithium batteries through the
structure of the Dreamliner.
The cause of the
Your assumptions are not correct.
Rossi needs only a few nano-grams of nickel Ni62 and Ni64 to cover the 3
grams of micro-powder base substrate with enriched nickel nanowire.
The nanowire formation process can include the isotopic mass separation
enrichment process at little additional cost.
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While United Airlines and LOT Polish Airlines are planning their upcoming
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Axil,
You should have read the Vortex posting I may recently, repeated below
(the data on arcing is especially informative) -
Lattice Energy LLC- Technical Discussion-NTSB Logan Dreamliner Runaway
Data Suggest High Local Temps-May 7 2013
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:
plate tectonics evidence where overwhelming much before they were
accepted.
there was explanation for the moving mechanisme decades before.
Sputtering in vaccum chamber?
Op donderdag 9 mei 2013 schreef Axil Axil (janap...@gmail.com) het volgende:
Your assumptions are not correct.
Rossi needs only a few nano-grams of nickel Ni62 and Ni64 to cover the 3
grams of micro-powder base substrate with enriched nickel nanowire.
The
*You should have read the Vortex posting I may recently, repeated below
(the data on arcing is especially informative) -*
I have read it. WL seem to be fascinated and awed by the power of charge
concentration.
The quotes in your reference refer to concentrations that are stellar in
power, the
Yes. some sort of metal coating method.
Piantelli also does this sort of coating process to prepare the surface of
his bars.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:
Sputtering in vaccum chamber?
Op donderdag 9 mei 2013 schreef Axil Axil
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Doesn't answer the question.
***Of course it does.
It just establishes the failure of the evidence.
***No, it establishes the real reason why intelligent people don't get
involved in Cold Fusion.
The reason for the
Some quotes from the reference as follows:
The numbers can be obtained from the values we measured for field emitted
currents, electric field, the emitter dimensions and volume for
transferring electromagnetic field energy into electron kinetic energy.
Combining these gives, (10 GV/m)(10-7 m)(1
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
interlab reproducibility is still a bitch.
***True enough, but that doesn't make it a pathological science. It makes
it a difficult one.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a reflection of what mainstream science thinks of cold fusion. It
doesn't answer the question of why, if the proof is so obvious,
***Interesting little conditional you've inserted here. The proof is not
obvious
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Mainstream does not believe the evidence for cold fusion. Therefore, it is
not credible.
***What a ridiculous line of reasoning. The evidence is credible, just
like the evidence for plate tectonics was credible. Just
So, Pons Fleischmann were careless researchers, eh? Then how is it that
their findings have been replicated 14,700 times? How did they become 2 of
the most preeminent electrochemists of their day before they took on this
anomaly?How careless do you have to be to read a thermometer
At least I know how to spell his name.
***Gee, that's about as semantically irrelevant as an argument can get.
He has considerable stature, yes. I don't know how much of that is
justified, but it is certainly not due to his work in cold fusion.
***It was due to his work in Nuclear Physics.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote:
It's self evident that there are images of an unknown physical entity.
***Wow, you put more credence into bigfoot than cold fusion. Amazing. Just
amazing. Note that National Instruments DID NOT go out on a limb to say
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Again with the semantics. I don't really care what word you use. To me,
both polywater and cold fusion are almost certainly bogus phenomena, ...
In my vocabulary ...
***Now that your position has been obliterated,
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 6 May 2013 18:21:16 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
If that fails, because, for example, Robin shows
overwhelming evidence that the experimenter would be harmed by secondary
EMF if there were watts of 4He's being generated (setting neutrons aside),
I will feel
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Once again you're trying to conflate tritium with heat. Forget 1989, take a
deep breath and focus only on the tritium findings at Los Alamos.
And a lot of other places too! TAMU and the National Cold Fusion Institute
(NCFI) are good examples, and don't
On Thu, 9 May 2013 14:20:42 -0700
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Again with the semantics. I don't really care what word you
use. To me, both polywater and cold fusion are almost
certainly bogus
You mean you can't use that word? I did a search found it 128 times on
Vortex-L. Does that mean that all 128 times, those people were given a
timeout? I don't see evidence of it.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2013 14:20:42 -0700
Kevin
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
Admin: any chance you can ban this fellow for a while? In several
of his recent posts, he has descended far below the bar for
decency you set up for this list.
Oh come now! Cude isn't that bad.
- Jed
‘Pathological Science’ is not Scientific Misconduct
(nor is it pathological)
Henry H. Bauer*
Abstract: ‘Pathological’ science implies scientific misconduct: it should
not happen and the scientists concerned ought to know better. However,
there are no clear and generally agreed definitions of
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 3 May 2013 07:46:14 -0600:
Hi Ed,
[snip]
Transmutation occurs but not at the a rate required to make detectable
energy.
Both you and Horace have said this. Can you suggest one or two experimental
papers where this is shown?
Regards,
Robin van
Frank,
A little more information please.. the citation is for reaction
rate over a thermal range and for different pressure values. Are you doing an
exact replication of same experiment or did you current thru your filament?
Tungsten can be melted if you created a Langmuir
Robin, here are some review papers that cite many examples. I also
treat the subject in my book, where I give many cations.
Transmutation is an exothermic reaction that makes heat when it
occurs. The amount of heat is related to the rate. The measured rates
are all too small to make
I was applying RF energy 60 to 500 mega hertz to a thin tungsten wire in
ammonia at one atmosphere.
The ammonia container was very small plastic container to limit any explosion
hazard.
It was a plastic candy tube from Starbucks.
I have done this with many wires, palladium, nickel, copper,
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Conflate is the key word here. This is important! It is a mistake people
on both sides make.
Yes, definitely -- conflation is a critical mistake, but it is most likely
to occur when it is convenient for one's position.
Do you see a charge in conductivity in the wire just before it overheats?
Increase conductivity could also cause your tank circuit to increase in
frequency.
Can you measure for this?
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
I was applying RF energy 60 to 500 mega
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:47 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 6 May 2013 18:21:16 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
If that fails, because, for example, Robin shows
overwhelming evidence that the experimenter would be harmed by secondary
EMF if there were watts of
Ancient Astronaut Found On Spanish Cathedral?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4N8URW0eZA
text below youtube video:
*Published on Mar 6, 2013 *
Very impressive carving that seems to depict an Astronaut holding a tether
of some kind. The carving is part of a decorative mosaic of motifs, that
I had not seen this good defense before. I will ask the author if I can
post up the chunk on cf.
On 5/9/13 3:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
‘Pathological Science’ is not Scientific Misconduct
(nor is it pathological)
Henry H. Bauer*
Abstract: ‘Pathological’ science implies scientific
Atomic Nucleus with Halo: For the First Time, Scientists Measure the Size
of a One-Neutron Halo with Lasers
Atomic nucleus of beryllium is three times as large as normal due to halo /
Publication in Physical Review Letters
http://www.uni-mainz.de/eng/13031.php
16.02.2009
Atomic nuclei are
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