Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Unfortunately for me, the 1 Dimensional Luttinger Bose-Einstein Condensate seems to have already been proposed, but as far as I can tell, not as an explanation of cold fusion: ***Also perhaps here. New Journal of Physics http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/ Volume 10

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Also perhaps here, this smart guy: *A. Bhattacherjee* , Pradeep Jha, Tarun Kumar and ManMohan, Luttinger liquid in superlattice structures: atomic gas, quantum dot and classical Ising chain, *Physica Scripta*, *83*, 015016 (2011). *Aranya B Bhattacherjee*, Tarun Kumar and ManMohan, Luttinger

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I think this paper might address the coupling term in the Hamiltonian you're asking about. http://amsdottorato.unibo.it/3777/1/dalmonte_marcello_tesi.pdf 1.1.1 Mermin-Wagner-Hohenberg theorem One of the main general results in 1D physics is related to the so called spontaneous symmetry breaking

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
http://news.yahoo.com/paradox-solved-information-escape-black-hole-104543630.html The BOSENOVA seen in the DGT might be a nanoscopic version of the information restoration process proposed for the end of life process of black holes. Rovelli agrees: Information is never too concentrated, and it

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
And also perhaps here: Note that they used lasers to REMOVE energy from the system (to COOL it). That's what KP Sinha did, and also, what Ed Storms was unaware of here on Vortex-L until I pointed it out. https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg77012.html

RE: [Vo]:[OT]More Alive than Dead?

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Over 107 billion. Makes me wonder how many times I've been recycled. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/

RE: [Vo]:[OT]More Alive than Dead?

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Terry, et all. Last night I discovered I can no longer post messages Vortex if I start a new thread. Apparently, I can only respond to a post like yours. What's weird is that if I change the subject thread and then attempt to mail it the post immediately comes back as undeliverable. If I try

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
Kevin, If experiments in any field can demonstrate a high temperature version of a Luttinger Condensate, then your insight is valid and can push forward LENR technology. That is the main issue with anything Bosonic - can it be applied at high temperature. All of the advances in LENR have

[Vo]:Test - Pinging Vortex

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Pinging vortex. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/

RE: [Vo]:Test - Pinging Vortex

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Vortex let this go through. But then it clamped down again. I still can't post a new subject thread. This is weird. Steve From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Test -

[Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread a.ashfield
Solar Hydrogen Trends claim: Input 500 watts produces 2,797 cu.ft. H2 per hour, equivalent to 221.5 KWhr at a cost of $1.80 http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, these theoretical speculations have not been applied to cold fusion simply because they have no relationship to showing how to make the effect work on demand or to showing how the chemical environment plays a role. These are examples of mental games physics encourages that may or may not

[Vo]:Does Vortex actively check for bad websites that might contain malware?

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I'm wondering. I repeatedly tried to posting something on Vortex last night and this morning. They have all been immediately returned as Undeliverable. The post contained a You Tube link. It also contained two additional web sites pertaining to what was in the You Tube video. I didn't think there

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
From: Kevin O'Malley And also perhaps here: Note that they used lasers to REMOVE energy from the system (to COOL it). That's what KP Sinha did, and also, what Ed Storms was unaware of here on Vortex-L until I pointed it out. The interesting thing about laser cooling is that the

[Vo]:Off Topic - You Tube Video - We are from the future

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
May you enjoy the following momentary distraction... I was recently queued in to the following You Tube video. Maybe you'll experience a few moments of enjoyment as I did innocently watching it. It's called We are from the Future. Lots of pretty special effects. Granted, it gets a little

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic - You Tube Video - We are from the future

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
FYI, This was the post I was trying to get out since last night. As best as I can tell I think Vortex may have not liked the original You Tube URL. I never really noticed this before but apparent YT links are secured (https). When I converted the original link over at tinyurl Vortex stopped

Re: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread Bob Higgins
If true, that is one heck of a claim - they would be claiming an over-unity COP of 443 (44300%). I checked the math. 2797 SCF of H2 - IS - equivalent to 221.5 kWH. What I think is probably wrong is the 500W input - it must be a typo. They must mean 500kW input. This would put their COP to be

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread James Bowery
The critical path seems to me to be: 1) Economically elicit statistically significant results. 2) Formalize that economical method in an experimental protocol. 3) Identify which theories make predictions about modifications to the experimental protocol (establish a range of hypotheses). 4) Based

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
A good path James, but with a few potholes. On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, James Bowery wrote: The critical path seems to me to be: 1) Economically elicit statistically significant results. Rossi has done this but he has not reveal how. 2) Formalize that economical method in an

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic - You Tube Video - We are from the future

2014-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:00 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: May you enjoy the following momentary distraction... I'm happy you found your problem. You may ignore my private email. Eskimo.com has all new hardware and some new software and you likely

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Jones Beene wrote: From: Kevin O'Malley And also perhaps here: Note that they used lasers to REMOVE energy from the system (to COOL it). That's what KP Sinha did, and also, what Ed Storms was unaware of here on Vortex-L until I pointed it out. Jones,

Re: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread a.ashfield
Bob, No typo. Apparently the figures have been replicated by an independent company See http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf Adrian Ashfield

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
From: Edmund Storms Jones, these theoretical speculations have not been applied to cold fusion simply because they have no relationship to showing how to make the effect work on demand or to showing how the chemical environment plays a role. Ed, that is simply

Re: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread Nigel Dyer
There is a performance report: http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf I would suggest that the current figure is likely to be right, in that 100kA at 4V would require some interesting electrical enigineering, so was the voltage actually nearer 5kV rather than 5V.

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, I know that you believe Pd-D and Ni-H involve two entirely different and unrelated phenomenon. Consequently, a discussion is impossible because we are discussing two entirely different concepts. You are so sure your concept is correct, you feel free to be arrogant about your belief.

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Bob Cook
Ed and Jones-- I'm glad I believe in the old adage No Friction No Motion and that it applies to debate of LENR. Carry On. Bob - Original Message - From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Saturday, March 15,

RE: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
Guys, Impressive, but suspicious.. Given the name of the company - could it be 500 watts electric and 100,000 watts of solar ? Or is this some type of LENR ? From: Nigel Dyer There is a performance report: http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf I

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic - You Tube Video - We are from the future

2014-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Hi Terry, my old friend. Yes, I did follow through to both web sites, the current one and the other still under construction. It might be interesting to see what they eventually post at the new cite. I assume they will post lots of far-off stuff, some of it controversial. Maybe

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic - You Tube Video - We are from the future

2014-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Whoa! I never considered the merge. But, my decision actually causing the split is a bit anthropocentric and does not comply with string theory. Yes, I did consider that in the haze of the cactus button; but, I found a conflict with predestination. But, merge? Thanks!

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread James Bowery
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, James Bowery wrote: 3) Identify which theories make predictions about modifications to the experimental protocol (establish a range of hypotheses). I find that all the present accepted

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:37 PM, James Bowery wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, James Bowery wrote: 3) Identify which theories make predictions about modifications to the experimental protocol (establish a range of

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
The Rossi reactor is currently configured into two functional parts, the mouse whose function it is to produce nanoparticles, and the Cat whose function it is to catalyze these nanoparticles in a LENR reaction. We can duplicate these functions by providing a nanoparticle source (mouse) and a

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6OZykbnLQw This demo shows how nanoparticles of water clusters can be reacted into heat in an auto catalectic converter. The HHO is the source of the nanoparticles mouse On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Rossi reactor is

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGWrJ9J5ffM This video shows HHO interaction with and without nanoparticle contact with the catalytic convertor substrate. When the water crystals are allied to the catalytic substrate, full heat capacity is produced. When the water crystals are filtered out of

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jczBXmr7yo This continuous video shows startup of a HHO Hot Cat from room temperature to 831F I wonder what electrode that the water clusters of come off of, the hydrogen electrode, the oxygen electrode or both. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic - You Tube Video - We are from the future

2014-03-15 Thread Rob Dingemans
Dear Steven, Thanks for sharing this video, I enjoyed it. Kind regards, Rob