Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Dave wrote: "Why question the steam temperature and pressure readings if they were performed with calibrated meters? Is this merely an attempt to explain away the possible excess heat? There remains a valid concern about where all of the 1 MW of heat is vented. That at the moment, seems to be

RE: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

In all of this demented nattering over Rossi and IH no one seems to have suggested the obvious, that being that the two parties are in cahoots on all this. Using the old but perfect advice, 'follow the money', since IH has happily used Rossi to take in scores of millions from investors it

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

a.ashfield wrote: Murray an "expert"? He wasn't even an engineer, he was an IT guy with > connections to DOD. > And yet he discovered a long list of reasons why the test was invalid. So did I, for that matter, and I am no engineer. > "According to the data you have

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Jed, AA At this point I don't have a lot of sympathy for IH. They have had a year with access to the plant to figure this out and yet they wait until the test is over and Rossi takes them to court to start complaining? Jed They were complaining long before that, as you saw in their Answer and

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

a.ashfield wrote: > If they knew something was wrong, why didn't they DO something about it? > They tried to do something, as you see in the Answer and in Exhibit 5. Rossi refused to let their expert in the door! See Exhibit 19. > Exhibit 5 shows the ERV's analysis

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Russ George wrote: In all of this demented nattering over Rossi and IH no one seems to have > suggested the obvious, that being that the two parties are in cahoots on > all this. This lawsuit is costing I.H. a great deal of money and trouble, so I do not think they are

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

I think Rossi is a friend of someone at IH for over 20 years. More like 30 years. 2016-08-20 13:05 GMT-03:00 Russ George : > that being that the two parties are in cahoots on all this >

[Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

Today I made an interesting calculation that some may find relevant to the ongoing discussions. According to steam tables, the following could be possible, assuming that I did not make a mistake in my calculations. Assume you have 1kg of water inside a solid container at 130 C and 39.2 psi

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

That's not a bad idea. I thought about this, but nagging IH fans is more entertaining and buys some time for people working with NiH not to be roasted. 2016-08-20 13:05 GMT-03:00 Russ George : > In all of this demented nattering over Rossi and IH no one seems to have >

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Murray an "expert"? He wasn't even an engineer, he was an IT guy with connections to DOD. As for the rest of your comment, I have answered it all before. Exhibit 5 says: "According to the data you have reported (averaged data for 10 months or for 3 ERV reports), 1) the conserved mass flow

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

That's quite a revelation. And what would they gain complaining to you? I hardly doubt they would get more expertise given their extreme incompetence, as you imply. I think they made you a noisy broken record to distract the people who takes LENR seriously from looking at the case objectively

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Making nano and microparticles using aluminum as a substrate requires huge amounts of energy to heat water to near boiling, The leaching process uses 25% and up sodium hydroxide to remove the aluminum to leave the particle nanocavity surface preparation exposed. Particles need to be leached

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Do you have short term memory problems? I pointed out the meters were all under 24 hr surveillance. Read what the manufacturer actually says, not what Jed writes. It is good for the actual flow rate. On 8/19/2016 1:22 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: How a single photograph taken at a

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

That would mean the Tiger E-Cats would have to be completely flooded. But the level gauges don't show that. Why not suggest pixie dust? On 8/20/2016 1:51 PM, David Roberson wrote: Today I made an interesting calculation that some may find relevant to the ongoing discussions. According to

[Vo]:why is so few love and so much hatred in LENR?

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/08/aug-20-2016-spirit-of-love-and-that-of.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

a.ashfield wrote: I take the manufacturer's and ERV's word for the flow over Murray's. > The manufacturer's face plate says this flow meter's minimum flow is higher than what Rossi recorded! The manufacturer's manual says you should not run this in a half-full pipe,

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

IH is not funding any CF research. 2016-08-20 15:53 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > > You are saying that we should take $100 million away from cold fusion > research funding, >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: As usual. I hope though they are not duped by IH. > Since they actually have been given money, they were not duped. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

They can do a shoddy work on purpose, like they did with Rossi, claim they saw nothing and get the technology. Which would prompt these guys to sue them. But since they are small, they are pretty much screwed. 2016-08-20 19:18 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > > Since they

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

As far as I can tell, all the reasons Murray came up with have been shot down. You previously stated Exhibit 5 proved your point. I showed that it confirmed mine. On 8/20/2016 2:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield > wrote:

Re: [Vo]:say NO to the LENR dystopias

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/08/aug-19-2016-saying- > no-to-lenr-dystopia.html > > please do not despair! > Relax. Support ONLY 'Free and Open Source' (FOSS/FOSH) research.

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

a.ashfield wrote: Do you have short term memory problems? I pointed out the meters were all > under 24 hr surveillance. > Says who? I doubt it. In any case, the flow meter was wrong. Whether it was under surveillance or not, it was wrong. I doubt the pressure gauges

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: IH is not funding any CF research. > It is funding CF research. I know some of the researchers and projects it is funding. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: What are those? > > 2016-08-20 17:48 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > >> It is funding CF research. I know some of the researchers and projects it >> is funding. >> > That is not for me to say. If I.H. and the researchers wish to go

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: So, I Rossi deserves the money since they did not even care to bother with > the tests. They got to the point of misreading the type of flowmeter used. > They lack responsibility. They should indeed punished with 100 million, > even so because we have

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

I take the manufacturer's and ERV's word for the flow over Murray's. On 8/20/2016 2:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield > wrote: Do you have short term memory problems? I pointed out the meters were all under 24 hr

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

Could you show me a reference to level gauges in each of the devices? I do not recall seeing one so far. Dave -Original Message- From: a.ashfield To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Aug 20, 2016 3:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

What are those? 2016-08-20 17:48 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > It is funding CF research. I know some of the researchers and projects it > is funding. > >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

As usual. I hope though they are not duped by IH. 2016-08-20 18:33 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > That is not for me to say. >

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Jed, As you should know by now, as it has been repeated several times, the detailed manufacturer's literature shows that the flow meter works well at the actual flow rate. Presumably the faceplate shows the boundaries for which the normal accuracy warranty applies. As the flowmeter was

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

If you look at the my original reference showing a link to photos of Engineer48 on Ecatworld, it shows the many precision pumps for each Tiger that maintain the correct water level in the reactors. AA On 8/20/2016 3:40 PM, David Roberson wrote: Could youshow me a reference to level gauges in

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Could well be but I think Rossi originally stumbled on something by himself - that caused him too seek out Focardi. AA On 8/20/2016 8:39 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 7:22 PM, a.ashfield > wrote: Did it strike you

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

As we repeated many times it is never one thing with Rossi: 1) flowmeter working range is at higher rates that what claimed was observed by ERV 2) there is evidence pipe was half full 3) heat produced would have caused problems if dumped in small warehouse no matter what you did with it 4) JM

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: As we repeated many times it is never one thing with Rossi: > > 1) flowmeter working range is at higher rates that what claimed was > observed by ERV > 2) there is evidence pipe was half full . . . > > Any of these problems would be pretty

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: What are those? > Peter Hagelstein, Dennis Letts, Brillouin, perhaps others [1]. Eric http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/DardenInterview.pdf

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Did it strike you as strange that Brillouin came up with a design very like Rossi's after meeting with IH? AA On 8/20/2016 7:55 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Daniel Rocha > wrote: What are those? Peter

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

a.ashfield wrote: > As you should know by now, as it has been repeated several times, the > detailed manufacturer's literature shows that the flow meter works well at > the actual flow rate. > No, it does not. Furthermore, the manufacturer says you should not use it in

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

The manufacturer shows the performance down to low flows. The largest error is 3% Agreed that the the flowmeter should not be run half full but there is no evidence it was. Show the piping diagram or quit going on about it. AA On 8/20/2016 9:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 7:40 PM, a.ashfield wrote: > Firstly, there is no point in speculating until there is sufficient > evidence. What I object to on this blog is the tendency for doubters to > use vitriolic ad hominems. > This whole Rossi saga has hijacked most-all

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 7:22 PM, a.ashfield wrote: Did it strike you as strange that Brillouin came up with a design very like > Rossi's after meeting with IH? > Not too strange! (1) People have been "replicating" Rossi for several years now. (2) Rossi learned from

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

I really thought of those. But I don't think they are in he correct path (Rossi is not in the right path at all too), which contains in the theory cracks. Akito's material does have cracks, at least he tries to make them when preparing the material, which he calls fractal structure. 2016-08-20

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

Thanks for the information. But AA, a pump by itself does not regulate the level of the water. There must be some form of active level feedback applied in order for this to occur. If no level sensing and feedback is used then either the water totally fills up the device or it gets boiled off