Re: Watch Me Try to Get Home (Train Hell's a comin' to Paradise)
Well, they're our peanuts - but no, I hadn't realized we were so outclassed. Texas was where they were going to build that Superconducting Supercollider too. I should have guessed. - R. RICK, Thats peanuts, Houston spent a Bil on a 9 mile toy train. BushTexas and BushFlorida have it going. Texas has a 180 Bil tollway starting .. see www.corridorwatch.org to learn how the smart money does it. Cintra of Spain won the bid to construct the first section. Gov. Perry signed the contract but cant reveal the terms saying it is confidential. The deal was put together back when Bush was the GUV. Bro Bush in Florida playing copycat. Richard
Re: Re: Watch Me Try to Get Home (Train Hell's a comin' to Paradise)
From: Rick Monteverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, they're our peanuts - but no, I hadn't realized we were so outclassed. Texas was where they were going to build that Superconducting Supercollider too. I should have guessed. LOL! The SSC engineering firm also included our parent company. We're also involved in the Big Dig. Haven't had much good press lately. :-) http://www.pbworld.com
Re: 1997-2005 the missing SMOT years
Grimer wrote Now the implication of the magnetic lines of force not being orthogonal to the current carrying wire is that they form a tightly wind spiral which starts and finished at a charged particle. In short the charge particle is acting as a turbine taking in Chi-aether [chi being the Greek equivalent of X, the unknown ;-) ]at its south magnetic pole, say, and pumping it out at its north magnetic pole.Because of the obvious reciprocal relationship between E and M as manifest by the function of inductors and capacitors in electrical circuits for example, I have never been able to understand why if a spiral electric flux in a coil produces a linear magnetic flux along the axis of that coil, a magnetic flux in a high permeability magnetic coil doesn't produce a electric flux along the axis of that magnetic coil.I have no idea how easy it is to produce a magnetic coil - or indeed if it is practical at all - but its such an obvious thing to do that I imagine people must have done it and found nothing interesting.I now realise that I am possible looking at things the wrong way. The electric helical flux produces an effect one hierarchy down, i.e. at the magnetic flux level. Therefore one might expect a magnetic flux to also produce an effect one stage down.But what is one stage down? Perhaps it is gravity. So although SMOT is experimentally as vacuous as a man trying to fly by flapping his arms, the intuition underlying it is perfectly reasonable. Frank, the spiral ring helixobserved in a water vortex is, as Schauberger stated, a " reverse flow". Centrifugal and centripetal forces within the confines of the parabolic cone of the liquid spiral scream to us that the inner face " must" be smooth. It is NOT,it isringed with spirals. Magnetic lines of force acting on metals shavings may not show the opposing force like a water vortex simply because theyARE one stage down, Smot may have given us a glimpse. Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif
Another search engine
This has a good index of papers at LENR-CANR.org: http://www.scirus.com/srsapp/ - Jed
Re: 1997-2005 the missing SMOT years
At 07:51 am 11-05-05 -0500, Richard wrote: Grimer wrote Now the implication of the magnetic lines of force not being orthogonal to the current carrying wire is that they form a tightly wind spiral which starts and finished at a charged particle. In short the charge particle is acting as a turbine taking in Chi-aether [chi being the Greek equivalent of X, the unknown ;-) ]at its south magnetic pole, say, and pumping it out at its north magnetic pole. Because of the obvious reciprocal relationship between E and M as manifest by the function of inductors and capacitors in electrical circuits for example, I have never been able to understand why if a spiral electric flux in a coil produces a linear magnetic flux along the axis of that coil, a magnetic flux in a high permeability magnetic coil doesn't produce a electric flux along the axis of that magnetic coil. I have no idea how easy it is to produce a magnetic coil - or indeed if it is practical at all - but its such an obvious thing to do that I imagine people must have done it and found nothing interesting. I now realise that I am possible looking at things the wrong way. The electric helical flux produces an effect one hierarchy down, i.e. at the magnetic flux level. Therefore one might expect a magnetic flux to also produce an effect one stage down. But what is one stage down? Perhaps it is gravity. So although SMOT is experimentally as vacuous as a man trying to fly by flapping his arms, the intuition underlying it is perfectly reasonable. Frank The spiral ring helix observed in a water vortex is, as Schauberger stated, a reverse flow. Centrifugal and centripetal forces within the confines of the parabolic cone of the liquid spiral scream to us that the inner face must be smooth. It is NOT, it is ringed with spirals. Magnetic lines of force acting on metals shavings may not show the opposing force like a water vortex simply because they ARE one stage down, Smot may have given us a glimpse. Richard If nothing else SMOT has made us think about the possibilities. As the myth of Icarus shows, man has dreamt of flying like the birds from ancient times but it was only a century ago that man achieved his dream. Fifty years later he had jumped over the moon. I feel sure that it will not take 50 more years for him to puzzle out the interaction between magnetism and gravity. And since you obviously have hands on experience of hydrodynamics in general and vortices in particular you are probably the Vortexian in the prime position to recognise the true nature of the magnetic field. Frank
Re: OT: Stock market churning
From: RC Macaulay Is it my imagination or is there a churning going on with Wall Street. The seesaw is too balanced as if a giant computer program has control of the game. It fluctuates at near 150 back and forth weekly. Some opinions have it that IF the Dow drops below 10K there is NO bottom. Some opinions have it the Dow will creep up to just below 11K before the summer doldrums bring it back to near 10K. Some opinions have it there is a horrible correction looming after the 2nd quarter's reports are in. In Texas, near retirement age people are selling their California homes for 2 plus mil, moving to Texas near Kerrville into a bigger brand new home for 250K and banking the difference as retirement . A mil and 3/4 will give you a fairly good retirement posture. While I watch the discussions on outsourcing the reality is the nation simply cannot afford a drop in the Dow and expect to sell the Social Security reform package that permits investments in the equities market. Harvard has money in the stock market could we afford to lose Harvard and Yale? Between these two , they supply the Government with the brainpower and the Presidents of our nation. eeerrr, well by way of Texas. Richard It's been my experience that no matter how much technical or classical analysis one puts into predicting market trends that one hopes to take advantage of the lady will damn well do what she pleases and in her own time. Welcome to chaos theory! It's best just to buy her roses and an occasional outing to a nice restaurant. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com Is it my imagination or is there a churning going on with Wall Street. The seesaw is too balanced as if a giant computer program has control of the game. It fluctuates at near 150 back and forth weekly. Some opinions have it that IF the Dow drops below 10K there is NO bottom. Some opinions have it the Dow will creep up to just below 11K before the summer doldrums bring it back to near 10K. Some opinions have it there is a horrible correction looming after the 2nd quarter's reports are in. In Texas, near retirement age peopleare selling their California homes for 2 plus mil, moving to Texas near Kerrville into a biggerbrand newhome for 250K and banking the difference as retirement . A mil and 3/4 will give you a fairly good retirement posture. While I watch the discussions on " outsourcing" the reality is the nation simply cannot afford a drop in the Dow and expect to sell the Social Security reform package that permits investments in the equities market. Harvard has money in the stock market could we afford to lose Harvard and Yale? Between these two , they supply the Government with the brainpower and the Presidents of our nation. eeerrr, well by way of Texas. Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif
Magnetic Monopole Patent
Found on another list, patent #5,929,732 Apparatus and method for amplifying a magnetic beam . . . This beam is a magnetic monopole which emits pulses, levitates, degausses, stops electronics and separates materials. Looks childishly simple to assemble.
Re: Magnetic Monopole Patent
Hi Terry, I guess you found that in the Scam_or_no_scam group. I do have a word version of that patent if anyone would like to download from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Scam_or_No_Scam/files/US929732patent.doc I was going to give it a shot, but never got around to building one. Joe --- Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found on another list, patent #5,929,732 Apparatus and method for amplifying a magnetic beam . . . This beam is a magnetic monopole which emits pulses, levitates, degausses, stops electronics and separates materials. Looks childishly simple to assemble. Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html
RE: Magnetic Monopole Patent
Hi Terry, Yes, this patent US5929732 has been around the block a few times. I even think the inventor is someone who can be found on the internet, on some of the more colorful lists ( like this one *grin* ). If I'm not mistaken, this is him. [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you say, it's easy enough to build. Calling the field a monopole field is not entirely true but for engineering purposes it could have some uses. Why don't you drop him a line and ask after it? I'll bet you'll get a good story at the least. K. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Magnetic Monopole Patent From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a resend. Looks like the eskimo server is sitting on email again. I apologize if you get it twice; but, it's quite interesting and on topic Bloody hell, after waiting almost 3 hours for the original email to post, as soon as I resent it, the bloody server delivered both. Methinks it just does this to piss us off.
Re: OT: Stock market churning
From: RC Macaulay Is it my imagination or is there a churning going on with Wall Street. The seesaw is too balanced as if a giant computer program has control of the game. It fluctuates at near 150 back and forth weekly. Some opinions have it that IF the Dow drops below 10K there is NO bottom. Some opinions have it the Dow will creep up to just below 11K before the summer doldrums bring it back to near 10K. Some opinions have it there is a horrible correction looming after the 2nd quarter's reports are in. In Texas, near retirement age people are selling their California homes for 2 plus mil, moving to Texas near Kerrville into a bigger brand new home for 250K and banking the difference as retirement . A mil and 3/4 will give you a fairly good retirement posture. While I watch the discussions on outsourcing the reality is the nation simply cannot afford a drop in the Dow and expect to sell the Social Security reform package that permits investments in the equities market. Harvard has money in the stock market could we afford to lose Harvard and Yale? Between these two, they supply the Government with the brainpower and the Presidents of our nation. eeerrr, well by way of Texas. Richard It's been my experience that no matter how much technical or classical analysis one puts into predicting market trends that one hopes to take advantage of this lady will damn well do what she pleases and in her own time. Welcome to chaos theory! It's best just to buy her roses regularly, and an occasional outing to a nice restaurant doesn't hurt either. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
Re: Magnetic Monopole Patent
From: not used account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Terry, I guess you found that in the Scam_or_no_scam group. Zackly. I was viewing your SMOT vids. Hunker mags you got there!
RE: Magnetic Monopole Patent
From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Terry, Yes, this patent US5929732 has been around the block a few times. I even think the inventor is someone who can be found on the internet, on some of the more colorful lists ( like this one *grin* ). If I'm not mistaken, this is him. [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you say, it's easy enough to build. Calling the field a monopole field is not entirely true but for engineering purposes it could have some uses. Why don't you drop him a line and ask after it? I'll bet you'll get a good story at the least. Why do I get the feeling that I'm being set up here? :-) What struck me was the line in the abstract about stopping electronics. Along time ago, in a galaxy far, far away we were discussing what it is in a flying saucer propulsion system which makes vehicles stall. I'll finish reading the patent first. I question the sanity of anyone who maintains an AOL account (except maybe Dr. Puthoff); although, the latest news is that they plan to start free email service. -Cautious in Atlanta
Re: 1997-2005 the missing SMOT years
Grimer wrote If nothing else SMOT has made us think about the possibilities. I have fellowship with a retired airline pilot that has weather eye. I have mentioned the " strange" vortices shed from the main vortex created in our glass test tanks.( while the main vortex is spinning) , In particular, the horizontal vortexes that form and " coast"across the bottom of the tank. I mentioned that the severe Florida hurricane last decade had some unexplained damage from winds that may be the result of a horizontal rolling wind shear similar to a Jelly roll type cake. My pilot friend said flying 747's for years provided him all the experience he needed in unexplained wind shears including some during a perfectly clear sky. There may be a way to visualize such activity in a magnetic field if it has spiral helix properties. One method may be by the use of a ultrasonic flow meter of all things. Hmmm , thats an interesting thought. We use these type meters in our systems shop. Thinking out a test I will give it a try using a 5 HP TEFC 3 phase electric motor 480 vac under various load conditions. Ifsomething out of the ordinaryshows up, and is reproducible, I will post it. Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif
Hydrogen car
http://durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=eartharticle_path=/earth/earth050505.htm Pity there isn't an easy way to store the hydrogen whilst the car is parked. Frank
Blast from the Past - quotes from Edward Teller
Here are some quotes from a book advocating aboveground nuclear bomb testing. To quote another 1950s idol, What me worry? - Jed E. Teller and A. Latter, Our Nuclear Future. . . Facts Dangers And Opportunities, (Criterion Books, 1958) We have compared radiation from the fallout with radiation from other sources. It is also possible and helpful to compare the fallout danger with different kinds of dangers. For this purpose it is convenient to express all dangers in terms of a reduced life-expectancy. For example, smoking one pack of cigarettes a day seems to cut one's life-expectancy by about 9 years. This is equivalent to 15 minutes per cigarette. That cigarettes are this harmful is, of course, not known with certainty. It is a best guess, due to Dr. Hardin Jones, based on an analysis of statistical data. A number of Dr. Jones' statistical findings are listed in the following table: Reduced Life Expectancy Being 10 per cent overweight: 1.5 years Smoking one pack of cigarettes a day: 9 years Living in the city instead of the country: 5 years Remaining unmarried: 5 years Having a sedentary job instead of one involving exercise: 5 years Being of the male sex: 3 years Automobile accidents: 1 year One roentgen of radiation: 5 to 10 days The world-wide fallout (lifetime dose at present level): 1 to 2 days [Footnote: The last line of the table is based on our own estimates.] The reader will see that the world-wide fallout is as dangerous as being an ounce overweight or smoking one cigarette every two months. The objection may be raised that the fallout, while not yet dangerous, may become so as more nations develop and test atomic weapons. On this point we can only say that the future is not easy to predict. Some factors, however, justify optimism. We are learning how to regulate the fallout by exploding bombs under proper surroundings. Development of clean bombs will greatly reduce the radioactivity produced. Deep underground tests will eliminate fallout altogether. The activity put into the atmosphere in 1954 was considerably greater than the activity released in any other year. It is highly probable that the activity produced by United States tests will continue to decline. Finally, we may remark that radiation is unspecific in its effects. Chemicals are specific. About the effects of a new ingredient in our diet, in our medicine, or in the air we breathe, we know much less than we know about radiation. If we should worry about our ignorance concerning our chemical surroundings as we worry about the possible effects of radiation, we would be condemned to a conservatism that would stop all change and stifle all progress. Such conservatism would be more immobile than the empire of the Pharaohs. It has been claimed that it is wrong to endanger any human life. Is it not more realistic and in fact more in keeping with the ideals of humanitarianism to strive toward a better life for all mankind?
Re: Hydrogen car
http://durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=eartharticle_path=/earth/earth050505.htm I don't think he understands his own invention. Obviously, it's the solar panel that provides the energy. ---On a commercial level, you're actually combusting hydrogen, Hinton said, so a solar panel would not be necessary. ---During the six-week project, Hinton learned basic electrolysis and a little physics. ---It's interesting to me that you can use water as fuel, he said. Craig Haynie (Houston)
Re: The seemingly circuitous behavior of hydrinos
Hi Robin, Thanks for the brief but concise tutorial concerning my questions on the progressive evolution of hydrino states. The graphics at your web site were helpful as well. I gather there has been some speculation that much of the missing mass recently detected in our universe might turn out to be nothing more exotic than hydrinos floating about in the deep recesses of outer space. The implication is that this yet-to-be-detected state of matter does not tend to interact with other hydrinos nor other elements - except in special situations like the BLP catalysts. All this, of course, remains highly debatable for now. I gather that, so far, nobody has figured out a way to directly detect the existence of hydrinos. They are, after all, extremely tiny critters. Setting aside claims of recorded excess heat, the assumption that hydrinos exist appears to be built entirely on unique spectral analysis signatures and special hydride compounds that Mills claims to have manufactured. These hydrides appear to posses unique characteristics that might turn out to have lucrative industrial applications. I understand Mills has been willing to share these specially manufactured compounds with other labs for verification of claims. Too bad there doesn't appear to be an academic interest (perhaps on the graduate level?) in devising experiments that might help prove or disprove in the direct sense the existence of hydrinos. This does bring up many questions pertaining to whether it is possible for hydrinos to combine with other elements and produce unique alloys with unusual characteristics (i.e. the theorized BLP battery). Again, I get the impression that hydrinos don't interact, perhaps because they are situated down in a deep energy well making it difficult to combine covalently or ionicaly with other elements. Obviously, Mill's special hydride compounds are claims to the effect that there may be circumstances where combinations ARE possible. From my perspective there remain many unanswered questions making it difficult to prove that they really exist. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
Strange GUT
This one is somehow intuitively pleasing: http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/pearsontheory/consciousness.htm A SUB-QUANTUM level of reality, to be called the nuether, is described which results from applying the two conservation laws of energy and momentum. A new creation/annihilation mechanism then appears having a self-organising property and leading to a brain-like structure. This could evolve a primary consciousness within the nuether, which could then generate the quantum waves to produce what we call, sub-atomic particles, together with the force of gravity. A solution to the enigma called, wave particle duality has therefore appeared naturally and is entirely free from paradox. In this way the nuether seems able to generate the quantum world: the base on which all matter rests. Physics is also extended to include phenomena, like psychokinesis, presently regarded as paranormal.
