Re: [Vo]:Lithium titanate battery (was Re: Cheap solar a couple years away?)

2007-07-19 Thread thomas malloy
Michel Jullian wrote: More on these miracle batteries: Quote: Power comes from 900 pounds of Altair NanoSafe lithium titanate batteries. Vehicle integration and testing are by Boshart Engineering. I this the same thing as a Li ion battery? --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html -

[Vo]:VORTEX MODERATOR: P. Lowrance use of personal attacks

2007-07-19 Thread William Beaty
Anyone can fall into uncivil behavior during a heated debate. A civilized person catches most of their own misbehavior and apologizes to those they've insulted. But anyone who uses repeated and unapologetic personal attacks is a different problem, and I will remove such people from this forum.

Re: [Vo]:VORTEX MODERATOR: P. Lowrance use of personal attacks

2007-07-19 Thread Nick Palmer
Does this mean he's gone? LOL! (not really, just couldn't resist it...).

[Vo]:Galaxy Zoo

2007-07-19 Thread Horace Heffner
I just had an introduction to Galaxy Zoo, a cooperative effort similar to CETI online. It is fun. http://galaxyzoo.org/ This is a chance to see some anomalies first, and first hand, so to speak. I am amazed at the large number of black satellite tracks that show up in the photos. I would

Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn

2007-07-19 Thread Paul Lowrance
thomas malloy wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: I think you missed my point. If you don't want something public then don't make it so yourself. Actually it appears you did miss something. If you are so concerned

[Vo]:Re: [Vo] Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Jones Beene
Michel Jullian wrote: The differences with traditional Li Ion are outlined here: http://www.altairnano.com/documents/NanoSafeBackgrounder060920.pdf As a side note: The cross connection between Li ion anomalous overheating of batteries, and LENR has been been mentioned here on a number

Re: [Vo]:VORTEX MODERATOR: P. Lowrance use of personal attacks

2007-07-19 Thread Paul Lowrance
I was defending an individual, Dr. Mike. Horace should not publicly post an individuals email address on a list without permission. He should have sent the email address in private to the person requesting the email. Instead, Horace argued and argued about the topic knowing full well he was

Re: [Vo]:Mr. Lowrance's choice of words: You people...

2007-07-19 Thread Paul Lowrance
OrionWorks wrote: [snip] You have called the Vortex participants You people..., that we ...can't get past [our] emotions, that we ...continue to kill each other... Thanks for pointing that out. To be more accurate, this statement can't get past emotions is referring to present tense. Sorry

Re: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetics thought police

2007-07-19 Thread Horace Heffner
Ah, I think I finally understand what you are saying. Google groups runs it's own usenet server(s). The problem is thus indeed *all* with google. Looks like google ran out of disk space for their usenet server. That phone number should come in handy in the future. On Jul 18, 2007, at

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 19, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Michel Jullian wrote: The differences with traditional Li Ion are outlined here: http://www.altairnano.com/documents/NanoSafeBackgrounder060920.pdf As a side note: The cross connection between Li ion anomalous overheating of batteries,

Re: [Vo]:Requesting comments to this comment

2007-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Krivit quoted an anonymous source: The ERAB council proved that cold fusion isn't DD fusion. I should know better than to comment on theory, but as far as I know, cold fusion is DD fusion. It produces helium at the ratio to heat as plasma DD fusion does, so what else could it be? I

[Vo]:Re: Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Jones Beene
Horace, I don't recall the mechanism you have suggested for CF extracting energy from O18 interactions. Good reason for that, as there is nothing firm or even gelled, which has been vetted to any degree. Some thoughts have been tossed out about very slow neutrons coming from the distorted

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The higher mass would make diffusion of the O18 slower than O16, so it would take longer to diffuse to and accumulate near the anode. Whoops, the oxygen doesn't move in such batteries? It's stuck in the polyethylene oxide? Not

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The higher mass would make diffusion of the O18 slower than O16, so it would take longer to diffuse to and accumulate near the anode. Whoops, the oxygen doesn't move in such batteries? It's stuck in the polyethylene oxide? Not

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Horace Heffner
A high electron density can be achieved using either a high voltage or by use of sharp points. Maybe achieving CF is a simple as raising D fugacity to the point of forcing D atoms to the surface of a highly negatively charged needle point. This then opens the possibility of surface or

[Vo]:TEST OF GRAVIMAGNETISM VS GR

2007-07-19 Thread Horace Heffner
The position in my paper is that virtual photons can not carry gravimagnetic charge. Therefore, electric fields, i.e. near field effects, are readily transmitted from a black hole, and readily transmitted two ways across the event horizon. This means that black holes can exhibit charge.

[Vo]:Secret Exchanges - was: Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: You are maybe thinking of the term exchange reaction, e.g.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen-deuterium_exchange Yes, thanks. The H-D is a version of the more general chemical exchange reaction. I am not sure how many elements have isotopes which can be enriched

Re: [Vo]:Secret Exchanges - was: Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Jones Beene
The one missing item from most such tables is this factoid Comparison of an interesting but largely neglected physical property which can be exploited in enriching heavy water: H2OD2O melting point 0 C 3.84 C compare that spread with the most used

[Vo]:Re: Secret Exchanges - was: Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Jones Beene
corrections and addenda: H2OD2O Temp max density (°C) 4.0 11.6 Viscosity (at 20°C ) 1.005 1.25 had them reversed, and: Coors discovered an ice filtration method for beer which provides the other missing ingredient.

Re: [Vo]:centripetal force question

2007-07-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Imagine a ferris wheel (absent the carriages for simplicity) which is initially at rest. As the world turns, the ferris wheel will complete one revolution in a day (assuming no friction) with respect to an observer standing beside it. Yes? No? ...or? Harry On 15/7/2007 5:17 PM, Michel

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Lithium titanate battery

2007-07-19 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:08:37 -0800: Hi, [snip] It's stuck in the polyethylene oxide? Hmmm... I wonder what the anode reaction is then. I'm utterly confused - but it still seems worth posting because O18 might play some role in all this. It will be

Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water

2007-07-19 Thread Zachary Jones
I've wondered this, too. I was illumined to consider a paper on sonomagnetism, a phenomena seen in the boundary layer of the oceanic thermocline. The motion of electrolytic fluid carries and electromotive force that generates photonic emissions (presumably which were being confusing the

Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water

2007-07-19 Thread leaking pen
by definition, wouldnt increasing pressure change where the triple point is? On 7/19/07, Zachary Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've wondered this, too. I was illumined to consider a paper on sonomagnetism, a phenomena seen in the boundary layer of the oceanic thermocline. The motion of

Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water

2007-07-19 Thread leaking pen
the expansion is due to crystal lattice forming, and many compounds exhibit it in different ranges, just not many that are that simple. the energy of compression, to a point, can actually go towards helping teh phase change, as i recall, but during that phase change, temp isnt going to change