Re: [Vo]:New Arata experiment described in the lecture of May 22, 2008
Edmund Storms wrote: Jed, what happens from 0 to 300 min? Large heat burst during the period when the gas stream is turned on. This graph shows data after the gas stream is turned off, as I said in my initial messages. Why is this critical time missing? It is shown in other graphs. Sorry but I cannot upload additional graphs at this time. It took considerable effort to upload this one. I have no reliable internet access, and no other graphs at this time. (Actually, Arata sent them but this computer does not have the software to read them.) On the face of it, this graph proves nothing. It only shows that Pd-Zr-Ni reacts more rapidly with D2 than does ZrO2-Pd. The behavior of H2 is anomalous and makes no sense. It may make more sense after you see more data. It shows a limited amount of excess heat from H2, and much more heat from D2. The burst of heat from both D2 and H2 is in other graphs, as I said. Arata assumes the H2 heat burst is entirely chemical. Please reserve judgment. I regret my inability to communicate. - Jed
[Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
For those interested, it would appear that Blacklight Power has announced another milestone in its never ending quest to legitimize the controversial BLP process. The ever unflappable J. Barchak posted the following at the HSG forum: --- BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) today announced the successful testing of a new energy source. BLP has developed a prototype power system generating on demand 50,000 watts of thermal power using its solid fuel in a batch process and has extensively characterized the hydrino products - Commercializable Power Source from Forming New States of Hydrogen. http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/WFC052708webS.pdf BlackLight Power, Inc. has directly recorded the formation of hydrinos, hydrogen atoms in lower energy states, measured the extraordinarily energetic process, and isolated and characterized molecular hydrinos proving a new field of hydrogen chemistry and a powerful, clean, new energy source - Spectroscopic Observation of Helium-Ion and Hydrogen- Catalyzed Hydrino Transitions. http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/Continuum052708webS.pdf --- Can cheap K-Mart BLP heaters be far behind? As they say, stay tuned. Same bat time, same bat channel. --- Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
Take this with a grain of sodium chloride, as it is merely a first impression (for now), and comes from a Kibitzer who wants to be a Mills-advocate, but keeps bumping into those little obstacles called facts. But it is more than a bit curious - and I hope that this is not sounding too cynical - since this could be a major announcement from BLP, or not ... ... but it is worth mentioning that, among other things, Mills now (but never before) goes to great lengths in the preamble of this rather well-camouflaged expose' to shoehorn the elements chlorine and sodium into the mix as catalysts- all of which is following (just a bit too closely) the Roy Kanzius announcement. It is worth noting that rampant rumors have been circulating for about 5 weeks around two universities which are in proximity to Mills (in PA) of actual OU being found in that salt-water experiment! Plus - where is the reactor in question? Where is the data about its operation? I thought this paper was supposed to be substantive about that, instead of thinly camouflaged back-tracking (to take credit for something outside the previous range of what is a hydrino)? (i.e. the disappointment is found in lack of details but is not obvious, as there is much (too much) superfluous detail in the text, but little data-wise wrt the main supposed-subject: the reactor itself: where's the beef?)... CAVEAT: this Roy-Kanzius thing is now in the hands of major players, with resources and reputations greater than Mills - and was NOT ever announced as over-unity, and will not be, until or unless there is absolute certainty; so it is just high-level rumor thus far. That episode could be unrelated to this new announcement - or not- and is mentioned here with the caveat (and not on the HSG forum) only in the context of the surprise finding by Mills that the very same elements, which are active in Kanzius' work under RF irradiation, are now turning out to be hydrino catalysts. Surprise, surprise. Kinda reminds one of the haste in which PF made their premature announcement in 1989. Excuse me! but is not this the very FIRST TIME in the past two decades of plodding hydrino-tech that sodium and chlorine have been mentioned as catalysts ? They certainly do not fit into the original formula very well - PLUS give me a break - the way the two are shoehorned in - there is little doubt that every element in the periodic table could now be included as catalysts by manipulating the numbers this way. And coming on the heels of the Roy/Kanzium experiment, well- red flags should be going up left and right and not just among Mills' critics... I hope that I am wrong on this, as I do admit that R. Mills is a very accomplished, genius-level inventor; therefore, I will now step=off my soap-box and let one of Mills apologists come along with the obligatory: Mills is the new messiah spiel - and he can do no wrong so obviously his critics have not done their homework LOL - and studied every word of the Book his CQM gospel, every implication of which is true, even if he failed to get it right the first time ... Saltily yours, G Jones --- OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those interested, it would appear that Blacklight Power has announced another milestone in its never ending quest to legitimize the controversial BLP process. The ever unflappable J. Barchak posted the following at the HSG forum: --- BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) today announced the successful testing of a new energy source. BLP has developed a prototype power system generating on demand 50,000 watts of thermal power using its solid fuel in a batch process and has extensively characterized the hydrino products - Commercializable Power Source from Forming New States of Hydrogen. http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/WFC052708webS.pdf BlackLight Power, Inc. has directly recorded the formation of hydrinos, hydrogen atoms in lower energy states, measured the extraordinarily energetic process, and isolated and characterized molecular hydrinos proving a new field of hydrogen chemistry and a powerful, clean, new energy source - Spectroscopic Observation of Helium-Ion and Hydrogen- Catalyzed Hydrino Transitions. http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/Continuum052708webS.pdf --- Can cheap K-Mart BLP heaters be far behind? As they say, stay tuned. Same bat time, same bat channel. --- Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic
--- Ed I think this is only a way to provide chemical heat by converting UH6 to U3O8. I do not see how it could be chemical if the assertion that it will run 24/7 for *5 years* before refueling is true. If the U is natural, that much of it (with water as a moderator) would certainly go critical. Even if the U is depleted, or if there are poisons to keep it subcritical - that much of it in one place, for only chemical conversion - would be unimaginable Jones
Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic
Is the so-called battery reactor chemical or otherwise ? this is an interesting question. If the fuel is depleted Uranium, and there is a lot of that stuff around, then the operation could be related to recycling reactants - using both the heat and gamma flux from radioactive decay to reduce the oxide. However, unlike the RTG type satellite reactors, which use heat from Pu decay and then thermoelectric conversion into electricity - this new slant would be different in two ways. Obviously, it would be nice to know for sure- how it works. Why is it such a secret? Depleted U is actually more radioactive than natural, but far less than Pu (much longer half-life), but with enough of it in place (10 tons ?) - then one might be able to engineer and cycle a portion of it from a low gamma cathode zone where it oxidizes with oxygen, creating even more heat and releasing some hydrogen, and then is replenished and recycled back into an anode zone, where it is reduced back to metal hydride, using both the hydrogen, full gamma, and some parasitic electrical drain. Never seen this mentioned- total speculation but if current is being reused, then LENR could be a contributing factor. IOW this scenario is most unlikely - but everything about the sparce description of this reactor is both unlikely, and suspicious. ... or maybe the BLP announcement today - has tainted everything and made me more suspicious than is reasonable - Ha! shades of the ghost of Art Rosenblum and the infamous Mills interview over a decades ago where Randy sez point-blank: operating hydrino reactor will be available in two years... Art fell for it, as did most everyone else. RIP Art Rosenblum: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/ArtRosenblum.html Jones
Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic
Jones, If this is a nuclear reactor, the radiation would be too dangerous to make this practical. Even if it were buried deep enough to stop the radiation, it could not be safely dug up after 5 years. Besides, no sane person would want a nuclear reactor buried near them. The chemical reaction is very energetic, with enough stored energy in a few tons of material to make this work. However, I personally doubt that this idea will go anywhere because of the various engineering problems. Ed Jones Beene wrote: --- Ed I think this is only a way to provide chemical heat by converting UH6 to U3O8. I do not see how it could be chemical if the assertion that it will run 24/7 for *5 years* before refueling is true. If the U is natural, that much of it (with water as a moderator) would certainly go critical. Even if the U is depleted, or if there are poisons to keep it subcritical - that much of it in one place, for only chemical conversion - would be unimaginable Jones
Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic
On May 28, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Jones Beene wrote: [snip] Depleted U is actually more radioactive than natural, [snip AFAIK depleted uranium typically means the stuff left over after U235 separation process from the mined natural uranium, not what's left over after burning U in fuel rods. Depleted uranium has about 1/3 the U235 that natural uranium does. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic
--- Horace AFAIK depleted uranium typically means the stuff left over after U235 separation process from the mined natural uranium, not what's left over after burning U in fuel rods. True, and there was implication otherwise. Depleted uranium has about 1/3 the U235 that natural uranium does. More like 40% remains but in either case, the half-life of either 238 or 235 is in the billions of years, and fairly close (minimum difference) - but this is NOT what makes the depleted material more radioactive ... What makes it more radioactive is the radon daughters and other trace actinides which are left in the depleted material because they are neutron poisons. These can be (literally) millions of times more radioactive- so that even a trace amount makes a huge difference. The military has tried to downplay this fact because they insist that the depleted metal is a safe and affordable heavy metal for armor piercing rounds. It is not safe, by any stretch of the imagination, and is the root cause of many illnesses of troops for the fist Gulf war and Bosnia- who still excrete it in urine 20 years after exposure ... and if its 'true cost' were accounted for, it would not be affordable either. Jones
[Vo]:Let them burn their brioche
In the interest of (either) fairness - or some kind of time-shifted gotcha ... Professor Emeritus Dr Rustum Roy: http://www.rustumroy.com ... posted this skeptical article on his salt-water burning paper to his website, possibly for a future reason known only to himself (such as professional vengeance?): http://www.rustumroy.com/Water%20on%20fire%20makes%20scientists%20burn.%20CEN%20news.pdf Will Dr. Roy's adventure on the cutting edge of alternative-energy turn out to be a bloody waste of time, or will he get the last laugh, and possibly some toasty brioche?
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
--- OrionWorks wrote: For those interested, it would appear that Blacklight Power has announced another milestone in its never ending quest to legitimize ... Steven - not that anyone needs it, but here is one more reason to harbor some doubts and suspicions about the timing, if not the reality of this milestone announcement from BLP about their new reactor... This is not to say that it isn't legitimate, or anything like that ... ... and - being that you are a visual artist with computer programming skills, you may appreciated this bit of overlooked detail. Drag the jpeg image which accompanies the announcement of the new reactor: http://www.blacklightpower.com/applications.shtml#Power ... to your desktop (oops somebody forgot to lock it) and then hold the cursor over it, so that XP can read the Kodak info file and time stamp; now look at the exact date when the photograph was snapped G LOL - new reactor? old prop? or artistic license? Any bets on how long it will take before the BLP webmaster has the image locked, or instead someone modifies the info file to show that the photo of the new reactor was snapped over three years ago?
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
Jones sez: ... Drag the jpeg image which accompanies the announcement of the new reactor: http://www.blacklightpower.com/applications.shtml#Power done ... to your desktop (oops somebody forgot to lock it) and then hold the cursor over it, so that XP can read the Kodak info file and time stamp; now look at the exact date when the photograph was snapped G LOL - new reactor? old prop? or artistic license? If memory serves me correctly these images have been out on the BLP web site for some time. Anyone who has occasionally browsed the BLP web site would have seen them. They all appear to be dated around March 26, 2005. Any bets on how long it will take before the BLP webmaster has the image locked, or instead someone modifies the info file to show that the photo of the new reactor was snapped over three years ago? FWIW Personal Opinion follows: To be honest, I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Personally, I bet it will be a long time before the BLP webmaster locks the images. Who cares. I think you may be reading too much into the age of these obvious stock photos. ;-) I would speculate that the real evidence and accompanying photos remain carefully concealed due to proprietary issues, assuming there really is something going on over at the BLP labs. In the meantime, Dr. Mills probably authorized that they just throw something up that looks official. We remain clueless spectators in the game of corporate intrigue. Alas, it's our lot in life. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
--- OrionWorks wrote: If memory serves me correctly these images have been out on the BLP web site for some time. Anyone who has occasionally browsed the BLP web site would have seen them. For all (or most) of the other images on that site, I agree- they have not changed in a long time. However, I do not remember the image purporting to be the new reactor being there until the last major update which was about a month ago ... but since it is obviously NOT the new reactor, then it is clear that they do not care very much whether the general public believes that they really have a new reactor - or not. Fair enough... not really sure why they even maintain an elaborate site anyway. Since they are apparently not planning an IPO nor promoting stock investment from the public, they need only satisfy the due diligence demands of their wealthy investors. No problem for me. Jones Except that a few of us on the extreme end of anti-oil sentiment - might put off buying a new vehicle, for instance, if we were to be convinced that BLP, or anyone else, had a breakthrough alternative power source that was just a few years away.
Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Tue, 27 May 2008 21:28:58 -0600: Hi, [snip] Jones, After reading the rather poor description on the website, I think this is only a way to provide chemical heat by converting UH6 to U3O8. No nuclear reaction is involved or possible. As they say, it is like a battery that provides energy for a limited time. [snip] See their FAQ:- How does Hyperion work? Unlike conventional designs, the proposed reactor is self-regulating through the inherent properties of uranium hydride, which serves as a combination fuel and moderator. The temperature-driven mobility of the hydrogen contained in the hydride controls the nuclear activity. If the core temperature increases over the set point, the hydrogen is driven out of the core, the moderation drops, and the power production decreases. If the temperature drops, the hydrogen returns and the process is reversed. Thus the design is inherently fail-safe and will require minimal human oversight. The compact nature and inherent safety open the possibility for low-cost mass production and operation of the reactors. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
--- Robin van Spaandonk wrote: Actually Sodium is in the original list of catalysts Right! but it is not the same beast as now. I finally found it my old and original version of CQM (which I actually had to pay for!) but with a complex 3 level IP reckoning of 218 eV, it is not a realistic catalyst, as you state, and the rationale is/was completely different from the new and improved version. BTW I have no problem with new and improved at least until the author tries to make it retroactive ;-) As we discussed (privately) the chlorine issue is more problematic for Mills, but your solution is actually preferable (that is: if one is not seeking some kind of retroactive patent coverage for the Kanzius discovery). Jones
[Vo]:Arata Fig. 2
I hope this uploads. Explanation to follow. - Jed attachment: Arata Fig 2 small.jpg
[Vo]:Arata Fig. 4
This is Fig. 4. I hope this uploads. Explanation to follow. - Jed attachment: Arata Fig 4 small.jpg
[Vo]:Arata Figs. 2 and 4 explanation
[Do not reply directly to this message] Well, I hope I was able to upload 2 more figures. You never know . . . Anyway if they appear, here is what I wrote about them: With considerable effort, under trying circumstances (rain), I have prepared two more images from the Arata paper: Fig. 2. A test beginning 10/31/07. D2 gas with a 7 g sample of ZrO2*Pd. Gas injection lasts about 18 minutes. During the injection or “Jet-fusion” phase, the cell core temperature rises to 71°C, and the cell wall temperature rises to 35°C. Fig. 4. A test beginning 1/7/08. H2 gas with a 7 g sample of ZrO2*Pd. Gas injection lasts about 15 minutes. During injection the cell core temperature rises to 61°C and the cell wall rises to 34°C. In short, the reaction is similar to the effect with deuterium. However, after gas injection, some differences emerge: * With deuterium the pronounced temperature difference between the cell core and the cell wall continues for the 300 minutes shown in this graph. As shown in the graph I sent previously, Fig. 5B, this temperature difference lingers for 3000 minutes. With hydrogen, the temperature difference between the core and wall quickly vanishes. * With deuterium, the temperature gradually decays to 29°C at 300 minutes, which is 5°C hotter than ambient. With hydrogen, the temperature decays to 24°C, 1°C hotter than ambient. As shown in Fig. 5B the hydrogen cell soon returns to ambient temperature, whereas the deuterium cell remains hotter than ambient at 3000 minutes. These figures show data for 300 minutes, starting about 50 minutes before gas injection begins. Before injection, the cell is baked out and cooled down to remove gas contamination from the sample. Note that Fig. 5B, apparently shows three other data sets, not these. The data in Fig. 5B begins at 300 minutes (where these cut off), so it includes only what Arata calls “skirt fusion” which begins after gas injection is cut off. I sent this figure previously because it showed the more interesting phase, and because it shows the delta T difference between the cell core and wall more clearly (the left axis temperature is smaller). I wondered if the energy release shown here during the gas injection phase could be chemical in nature, as Arata claims. Arata claimed that during the “jet-fusion” gas injection phase, the cell produced 4.4 kJ in 15 minutes with an 18 g sample. For these two samples, of 7 g, of I did a seat-of-the-pants estimate based on my previous estimate that in the steady state, the cell wall temperature is 1.5°C hotter than ambient per watt of heat. I came up with 2 to 3 kJ for these two graphs. Assuming Arata is correct, and output is 4.4 kJ for 18 g, that comes to 4.9 W average power, or roughly 0.2 MJ/kg of material, which is a plausible energy release for a chemical reaction. I estimated other samples at 0.3 to 0.4 MJ/kg. The most energy dense common chemical, gasoline, produces 42 MJ/kg; coal produces 20 MJ/kg, so 0.2 MJ/kg is plausible, but I would like to know what chemical reaction Arata has in mind, and whether it occurs again when the sample is tested again. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:New Arata experiment described in the lecture of May 22, 2008
I think Ed meant to send this response to Vortex, but it came to me because of the peculiar on-line reader I use. Anyway, let me respond here: Edmund Storms wrote: Jed, let me describe what happens when a material that is reactive with H2 or D2 is exposed to the gas. This description is not hypothetical but is based on personal observation. As the gas is added, the sample starts to get warmer, which causes the reaction to increase in rate. The temperature eventually increases until the ambient pressure and the temperature are more or less in equilibrium. . . . As for the behavior when H2 was used, this gas should have produced an initial temperature almost identical to that produced by D2. This is exactly what Arata observed, and what he reported. That is what is shown in Figs. 2 and 4 that I just uploaded. The chemical reaction during the gas loading phase produces the same amount of heat with deuterium and hydrogen, using samples of ZrO2 of the same mass (7 g). The fact that it did not is very strange and suggests the data were not taken under the same conditions. This is Ed's misunderstanding, caused by the fact that I sent Fig. 5B first. Fig. 5B shows what happens AFTER gas loading, when the effects with deuterium and hydrogen begin to diverge. During the initial phase the two react almost exactly the same way. Question for Ed: is Arata's measurement of 4.4 kJ of chemical heat from an 18 g sample plausible? Too much? Too little? In contrast, if the sample reacts easily with the gas, as is the case with the Pd-Ni-Zr alloy, a lot of heat is generated quickly and the reaction is quickly completed. This is also exactly what Arata observed and reported. As a result, the temperature increases rapidly and also decays away rapidly, as was observed. Arata noted this. The only observation that makes the reported behavior unique is the generation of helium, which is not shown on the graph. Helium is not shown in this graph, as noted. However, it was not detected with hydrogen and it was with deuterium. Furthermore, there are two pronounced differences in the reported behavior: the heat with deuterium lasts ~3000 minutes longer than with helium (and would probably last much longer), and the delta T temperature difference between the cell core and wall continues with deuterium, whereas it disappears with hydrogen. These are very significant and in my opinion, they mean there is heat production with deuterium after gas injection, but no heat production with hydrogen. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Hyperion (HPG)
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The company is reported to have raised $180 million from VC. No. What they said was: Altira's investment in HPG was made out of the recently closed Altira Technology Fund V -- a $176 Million fund focused on venture capital for energy technologies. Terry
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
Jones sez: ... Fair enough... not really sure why they even maintain an elaborate site anyway. Since they are apparently not planning an IPO nor promoting stock investment from the public, they need only satisfy the due diligence demands of their wealthy investors. No problem for me. I think you hit it on the jackpot. It would appear that BLP really doesn't care what Joe Public thinks. They only care what their wealthy investors think, and I suspect they have all signed NDAs and are in the know. If we only had a mole! ... Except that a few of us on the extreme end of anti-oil sentiment - might put off buying a new vehicle, for instance, if we were to be convinced that BLP, or anyone else, had a breakthrough alternative power source that was just a few years away. Additional FWIW Personal Opinions: Making a BIG assumption that BLP really is on to something big I suspect it will be MANY MANY years before BLP technology trickles down to the little folk like us. This personal assumption is based on my respect for Mike Carrell's experience about how long it really takes to propagate a significant breakthrough into the public sector. Grasshopper is still learning the art of patience. So, for now go buy that plug-in Prius! Ya can't go wrong! ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
My take on BLP strategy. The publication of reports of experiments and theory lets all see the RD, especially the patent department, a full log of reduction to practice over many years. In the companion paper Commercializable...you will find the approach is somewhat different from the research effects. There will be a flood of imitators and BLP has to protect its investors with strong patents. I expect some royal battles to establish patent rights. The performance of the solid fuel is spectacular, at 50 kW and rising. Reconstituting the fuel requires only standard chemistry, but design of the automatic proces will be interesting. The process is scalable, so there will be automotive and possibly the proverbial household water heater. New design everywhere. It will take time to debug and optimize the applications. The press release implies engagement of major construction firms to built megawatt prototypes for utilities to replace oil, coal and gas. This is perhaps a fulfillment of promises made to some of the early investors, who were/are utilities. The world will change, mark this occasion. It is comparable to activation of the first fission nuclear reactor in Chicago. Mike Carrell - Original Message - From: OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Jones sez: ... Fair enough... not really sure why they even maintain an elaborate site anyway. Since they are apparently not planning an IPO nor promoting stock investment from the public, they need only satisfy the due diligence demands of their wealthy investors. No problem for me. I think you hit it on the jackpot. It would appear that BLP really doesn't care what Joe Public thinks. They only care what their wealthy investors think, and I suspect they have all signed NDAs and are in the know. If we only had a mole! ... Except that a few of us on the extreme end of anti-oil sentiment - might put off buying a new vehicle, for instance, if we were to be convinced that BLP, or anyone else, had a breakthrough alternative power source that was just a few years away. Additional FWIW Personal Opinions: Making a BIG assumption that BLP really is on to something big I suspect it will be MANY MANY years before BLP technology trickles down to the little folk like us. This personal assumption is based on my respect for Mike Carrell's experience about how long it really takes to propagate a significant breakthrough into the public sector. Grasshopper is still learning the art of patience. So, for now go buy that plug-in Prius! Ya can't go wrong! ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department.
Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic
Robin, If this energy is produced by a nuclear reaction, then neutrons and gamma are produced. This requires significant shielding. In addition, the core would be too active to dig up in five years and haul away for reprocessing, at least right away. In addition, the electric conversion equipment would have to be contained in the shielded structure to avoid releasing radioactive materials. This means the energy conversion process needs to be completely automatic. While I agree, the hydride would make the nuclear reaction fail-safe, it does not solve the significant engineering problems the design would have. UH6 is not used in conventional nuclear reactors in spite of the fail safe nature because it is very reactive to water and air. The danger is too great when water cooling is used. One has to ask how the cooling is accomplished on this design? Ed Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Tue, 27 May 2008 21:28:58 -0600: Hi, [snip] Jones, After reading the rather poor description on the website, I think this is only a way to provide chemical heat by converting UH6 to U3O8. No nuclear reaction is involved or possible. As they say, it is like a battery that provides energy for a limited time. [snip] See their FAQ:- How does Hyperion work? Unlike conventional designs, the proposed reactor is self-regulating through the inherent properties of uranium hydride, which serves as a combination fuel and moderator. The temperature-driven mobility of the hydrogen contained in the hydride controls the nuclear activity. If the core temperature increases over the set point, the hydrogen is driven out of the core, the moderation drops, and the power production decreases. If the temperature drops, the hydrogen returns and the process is reversed. Thus the design is inherently fail-safe and will require minimal human oversight. The compact nature and inherent safety open the possibility for low-cost mass production and operation of the reactors. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
Mike Carrell wrote: My take on BLP strategy. The publication of reports of experiments and theory lets all see the RD, especially the patent department, a full log of reduction to practice over many years. In the companion paper Commercializable...you will find the approach is somewhat different from the research effects. There will be a flood of imitators and BLP has to protect its investors with strong patents. I expect some royal battles to establish patent rights. The performance of the solid fuel is spectacular, at 50 kW and rising. Reconstituting the fuel requires only standard chemistry, but design of the automatic proces will be interesting. Question from a member of the peanut gallery (who has not read the book so you can just blow me off on this on the grounds that I haven't done my homework): Does reconstituting the fuel imply reflating the hydrinos? And in that case, does it require putting back the energy you got out to start with? Alternatively, does the process generate barrels of hydrinos as ash? I've felt confused about this point ever since I first read about hydrogen deflation catalysis as an energy source.
