On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
Gee, I guess their behavior seems highly suspicious :-)))
It seemed a little evasive, but in spite of that, in 1904 the prestigious
journal Science wrote:
The newspapers of December 18 contained the announcement that
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
I remember a graduate student in a group in which I was a postdoc, crying
(crying!) over a series of IR spectra that resulted from her latest series
of experiments, saying I will never graduate, this system just does
Am 16.11.2011 09:50, schrieb Joshua Cude:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net
mailto:mvit...@ucsbalum.net wrote:
I remember a graduate student in a group in which I was a postdoc,
crying (crying!) over a series of IR spectra that resulted from
National Instruments makes high end engineering and process control and
research instrumentation and software.
Their products are very expensive and are used in research and in
industrial production environments, but commonly not in end-products.
National Instruments makes the instruments for
yes, we recognized it upon seeing the graphs. But:
i) I was not mentoring that student, so I did not have a reason to look at
those graphs
ii) the professor would have gotten only a weekly report saying: reaction
attempted on xxx failed
that's how the world works, folks.
As far as the simplicity
It just got worst:
http://pesn.com/2011/11/15/9601957_Sterling_Allan_on_the_up_and_down_of_Rossis_approval_of_Leonardo-ECat.com/
The web site is registered to Rossi. Sterling can't just take it over. I
did email Rossi that he should insist the web site be take down it if
was not there with his
James,
Here is what I have deduced from the available pictures.
1) The steam exit pipes have an outer diameter (including insulation) of
11±2 cm.
2) The outer diameter of the pipe without insulation is 6±1 cm.
(There is a picture of the steam exit pipe without insulation.)
3) Your guess of a 2
I think the explanation is straightforward. Rossi is always accused of
sloppy measurements, like poor calorimetry, so an NI logo would be
equivalent to a seal of quality.
2011/11/16 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de
How to explain this?
According to Krivit:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/12/swedish-public-radio-turns-spotlight-on-lewan-and-ny-teknik/#comments
Steven B. Krivit says:
November 15, 2011 at
Interesting, after Krivit's first travel report Rossi immediately
attacked Krivit and labelled him as a Snake, although his report was
not that particularly harsh. I think Rossi was far more insightful
considering the true nature of Krivit than what we might have been
thought. I think it was not
This is another one of those give Rossi the benefit of the doubt issues:
The only way I can conceive of a temperature equilibrium in a
temperature-enhanced LENR system that doesn't have a heating element
setting its lower bounds (and heat-transport medium's phase change its
upper bounds) is to
From Marcello,
The Wright brothers were certainly complicit in the lack of attention
they received. Fearful of competitors stealing their ideas, and still
without a patent, they flew on only one more day after October 5. From
then on, they refused to fly anywhere unless they had a firm
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Andrea Rossi, if you read this forum, as I believe you do, take that web
site down as it is not helping to tell your story.
He doesn't. Defkalion does, however.
T
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
On 11-11-15 10:31 AM, James Bowery wrote:
The pseudoskeptics continually assert that their criticism of those who
are investigating Rossi's claims has nothing to do with whether Pons and
Fleischmann had any validity
What controls the temperature in the E-Cat's self-sustained mode?
I had presumed that all the work Rossi did to go from resistivity heated
temperature control to self-sustained temperature control was geared around
feedback of the temperature to the heat transport mass flow rate. I didn't
have
Let me repeat that I started this thread to discern what might have
been reported from ardent skeptics AFTER it had been determined beyond
reasonable doubt that the Wright Brothers [Sorry about that blatant
misspelling of Wright with Right in my original post... Hadn't had
my cup'o'Java.] had
Am 16.11.2011 14:28, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson:
From Marcello,
The Wright brothers were certainly complicit in the lack of attention
they received. Fearful of competitors stealing their ideas, and still
without a patent, they flew on only one more day after October 5. From
skeptical viewpoints re Rossi: John Pasquarette: Rich Murray 2011.11.11
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:24 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
What controls the temperature in the E-Cat's self-sustained mode?
I had presumed that all the work Rossi did to go from resistivity heated
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:59 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
The pseudoskeptics are basically saying that all we have to do is look at
the circumstantial evidence to know that even cursory investigation of the
direct evidence of the Rossi phenomenon (which implies suspending
This doesn't apply to the reaction chamber itself if we presume Rossi's
temperature-enhanced reaction rate is in play there. Regardless of how the
pressure changes or what the phase mixture is, the temperature will
continue to rise and the power level continues to rise. Indeed, the only
thing
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
This doesn't apply to the reaction chamber itself if we presume Rossi's
temperature-enhanced reaction rate is in play there.
That's true, but then we don't know that the temperature there is
well-regulated. There is no
Erratum: The parenthetic comment (or in a negative feedback with its
temperature) should read (or in a negative feedback with its temperature
about a constant temperature). An example of the latter is the purported
stability of the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:05
Also in the same, rather short, wikipedia article, one can read of the
furious patent dispute (on the mechanism to steer the planes, not on lift,
by the way), of the disrepute that befell the brothers because of their
perceived greed, and of the refusal (for 40 years! ) of the Smithsonian to
For what it's worth I think you are totally right in this Rich. I don't
trust Rossi with regard to latest test all being steam - the water trap he
used is not at all reliable, wand real power output is probably much lower
thant the claimed 470kW (though above 70kW that would be all water). That
The temperature control system doesn't necessarily have to sense right at
the reactor. It can take any output measurement that has a reasonably
short time constant.
The problem is that if there is no such control system, then the reactor
has to destroy itself (presuming the truth of Rossi's
Hi Jed, anything more in from George?
On 9 November 2011 14:29, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote:
Report On A Conversation With George Miley
http://e-catsite.com/2011/11/08/report-on-a-conversation-with-george-miley/
That looks
If the water coolant flow is slow enough, then the electric heater power
input will be enough to flash all the water into steam within the actual
reaction chamber space, depending on its internal size and geometric
complexity -- I have proposed that the ceramic resistor heater may quickly
become
Mary Yugo pointed out that other energy scams make money by accepting
secret investments from carefully selected credulous people, who have to
sign iron clad nondisclosure agreements... this can go on for years...
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
Also
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:17 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
The temperature control system doesn't necessarily have to sense right at
the reactor. It can take any output measurement that has a reasonably
short time constant.
Right, but then we're back to the question of
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
To the hard-core skeptics, two questions:
- did man actually set foot on the moon? Compare and contrast level of
proof.
I agree, the moon-landing requires some trust, because there is no way for
us to witness it
I agree, the moon-landing requires some trust, because there is no way for
us to witness it directly.
Maybe. But if you've seen a Saturn V launch, as have hundreds of thousands
if not millions, you have to be impressed that some considerable chunk of
mass is traveling very fast moonward. And
Ooops... my intuition screwed up on this one:
Since the effective specific heat does not remain constant with temperature
-- there is a discontinuous rise at the boiling point -- there is a
dramatic rise in the effective heat transport with temperature at the
boiling point (whatever it is for the
By the way, this means that if the water in the reactor vessel is under
enough pressure, the water pressure can be very high. This means, in turn,
that if it goes through a pressure drop, it can be completely vaporized --
indeed superheated steam.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:56 AM, James Bowery
Nice to see a polite discussion that reaches agreements...
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:56 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Ooops... my intuition screwed up on this one:
Since the effective specific heat does not remain constant with
temperature -- there is a discontinuous rise at the
There is the only problem with the investment story that it does not appear
to be true. The only source of money Krivit cites is Ampenergo, that is
Rossi himself.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Marcello Vitale
I would really like to see what the screen on top of the PLC was
displaying. All the answers to our engineering control questions could
be on that screen. It sure looks like the box was very full of controls
of various types and kinds.
AG
On 11/17/2011 2:30 AM, Rich Murray wrote:
Nice to
Ampenergo is owned by his wife.
2011/11/16 Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net
There is the only problem with the investment story that it does not
appear to be true. The only source of money Krivit cites is Ampenergo, that
is Rossi himself.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Joshua Cude
On 11-11-16 08:59 AM, James Bowery wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
mailto:sa...@pobox.com wrote:
On 11-11-15 10:31 AM, James Bowery wrote:
The pseudoskeptics continually assert that their criticism of
those who are
OK, I've now conceived of how the temperature is stabilized without
feedback control, and it doesn't require anything like mixed phase flow.
All it requires is pressure in the reaction vessel high enough to keep the
liquid flow at the boiling point (for that pressure) and transport away all
the
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
There is the only problem with the investment story that it does not
appear to be true. The only source of money Krivit cites is Ampenergo, that
is Rossi himself.
That may be the only source that he claims
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Ampenergo is owned by his wife.
No:
This was confirmed by Andrea Rossi’s wife, Maddalena Pascucci who is
a commerce graduate and manages the commercial part of the energy
catalyzer. Formally, the agreement was made
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Anyway, it will be very interesting history written when all the
background connections are exposed and investigated. I would say that
poor Steven the Snake...
What do you find wrong with Krivit's summary?
Perhaps discussing the NI logo on Rossi equipment is premature. NI has
made a couple of statements and none says Rossi will get an NI logo. IIRC,
the whole idea came from Sterling Allan -- the guy who links his web site
to stories about cars than use water as the only fuel and about Obama going
http://www.examiner.com/unexplained-phenomena-in-national/ufo-allegedly-spotted-following-us-military-airplane-video
Well, it *is* a plane; but, what is that object following it? It
almost looks like it is being towed by the C17 until near the end.
T
good question, Mary !
Any proof for: All we know is that after the Oct. 28 show, the shipping
container with the 50 Fat-Cats was hauled away on a truck. ?
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Jouni Valkonen
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:56 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Since the effective specific heat does not remain constant with
temperature -- there is a discontinuous rise at the boiling point -- there
is a dramatic rise in the effective heat transport with temperature at the
You will break your keyboard.
2011/11/16 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
the guy who links his web site to stories about cars than use water as the
only fuel and about Obama going to Mars.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:59 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
The pseudoskeptics are basically saying ...
You lost me before the incredibly convoluted prose -- at pseudoskeptics.
There is every reason to view Rossi's claims skeptically.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:58 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
By the way, this means that if the water in the reactor vessel is under
enough pressure, the water pressure can be very high. This means, in turn,
that if it goes through a pressure drop, it can be completely vaporized --
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/unexplained-phenomena-in-national/ufo-allegedly-spotted-following-us-military-airplane-video
Well, it *is* a plane; but, what is that object following it? It
almost looks like it is being towed
A true self sustaining mode would require control of the water mass flow rate
and possibly active cooling of the cores. His definition of self sustaining is
not forever having the same output, but more of a it keeps emitting heat for an
extended period of time until it cools too much.
Dave
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
You will break your keyboard.
Thank you for your concern.
On 11-11-16 10:43 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net
mailto:mvit...@ucsbalum.net wrote:
To the hard-core skeptics, two questions:
- did man actually set foot on the moon? Compare and contrast
level of proof.
I
In any case, it doesn't make sense to call Ampenergo as one of the
(supposedly) scammed parts. The deal with AP was to sell the e-cat in the
name of AR's company, so they should actually be the front gate of a scam.
2011/11/16 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM,
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:12 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, I've now conceived of how the temperature is stabilized without
feedback control, and it doesn't require anything like mixed phase flow.
All it requires is pressure in the reaction vessel high enough to keep the
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Anyway, it will be very interesting history written when all the
background connections are exposed and investigated. I would say that
poor Steven the Snake...
If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad,
Steven the Snake wrote:
1. Rossi has publicly told all his fans that he will not ask for money until
he has a
product for sale. 2. They believed him and propagated this information
widely but it is not true.
This is false. Rossi has refused to take money from investor and
private persons.
Jed,
Do you have this italian paper in the LENR library?
http://www.22passi.it/downloads/2-CHIMICA%20E...MISTERI.pdf
Harry
Yes, it looks like some kind of probe. It also looks like the cargo door
is open.
2011/11/16 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
**
Now, I'd agree that believing in BLP requires a certain level of trust
This string isn't about BLP but BLP has a lot of the hallmarks of a scam.
It could also be a delusion and I suppose there is a still a
If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad, and so will the entire
scientific establishment.
I disagree. With the present evidence, there is every reason to be
skeptical of Rossi. And Krivit is responding properly to the facts
presented to him. If Rossi's claims are real, he's done
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Steven the Snake wrote:
1. Rossi has publicly told all his fans that he will not ask for money
until he has a
product for sale. 2. They believed him and propagated this information
widely but it is not true.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad, and so will the entire
scientific establishment.
I disagree. With the present evidence, there is every reason to be
skeptical of Rossi.
That's true. The skepticism of
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
4. Rossi asked an engineer at NASA on July 22, 2011, for $15 million to
“test” his
device. NASA did not pay Rossi anything.
Should have paid. And also it was to be deposed in escrow account. Not
for Rossi.
Rossi and Ampenergo, or the the people behind Ampenergo at any rate,
are not strangers. He has known them since the late 90s.
Harry
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
wrote:
Steven
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad, and so will the entire
scientific establishment.
That's true. The skepticism of Rossi is
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
good question, Mary !
Any proof for: All we know is that after the Oct. 28 show, the shipping
container with the 50 Fat-Cats was hauled away on a truck. ?
As of last week The Customer had not taken delivery on the MegaCat.
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
The point is, you expect it cool down during deloading, but it sometimes
heats up instead. I think Rossi's cell did this on Oct. 6.
Has anyone ever noted an anomalous lack of warming or even a temporary
cooling during loading?
Not to my
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:12 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, I've now conceived of how the temperature is stabilized without
feedback control, and it doesn't require anything like mixed phase flow.
Joshua:
If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad, and so will the entire
scientific establishment.
Mary:
I disagree. With the present evidence, there is every reason to be
skeptical of Rossi.
Joshua:
That's true. The skepticism of Rossi is justified.
Skepticism is justified, but
So you have water in the two 1000 l reservoirs with an average temperature of
~18 degrees (Celsius).
Output temperature was 104.5 C average.
I don't give a damn about steam. I presume the boiler wasn't operating at
sub-atmospheric pressure, right? So let's just say that the water was heated
to
Yes. I was going to say this. Thanks.
- Jed
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
That's true if there is no latent heat of vaporization represented in the
liquid water. With careful setting of the water flow rate, one can
approach vaporization within the reactor vessel without any actual
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary:
ALL of that is gone if a blank test with an electrical heater gives the
correct result at
the output measurement end. Rossi knows that -- he's been told many
times by
probably dozens of people. That
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:41 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
I recall the manometer registered 3 bar, which is 300kPa which corresponds
to a potential liquid water temperature of 130C at the exit from the
reaction vessel. This doesn't leave him a lot of room to play with before
I need to add that a calibration run with an electrical heater supplying
all the heat also provides very valuable information about the heat
capacity and time constant of the system. And finally, if hydrogen (but
nothing else) is omitted for the blank run, any chemical reaction or other
At 06:02 PM 11/15/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
and selected scientists to a
demo of that device at which they were not allowed to oversee data
collection?
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg41536.html
[Vo]:Celani's report on Rossi January 14 test
Jed Rothwell
Tue, 18 Jan 2011
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
**
On 11-11-16 08:59 AM, James Bowery wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
On 11-11-15 10:31 AM, James Bowery wrote:
The pseudoskeptics continually assert that their
On 11-11-15 10:49 PM, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Suppose, in a parallel universe, scientists in 1990 did science
instead of treating theory as a form of religion.
If theory were
Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net wrote:
The Wright brothers were certainly complicit in the lack of attention they
received. Fearful of competitors stealing their ideas, and still without a
patent, they flew on only one more day after October 5. From then on, they
refused to fly anywhere
2011/11/16 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com:
The purpose of a blank/calibration run, I say *again*, is to validate the
measuring method and equipment. I know of no other iron clad way to do
that. Without it, arguments about dryness of steam and thermocouple
placement and pressure and endless
Examining the condenser, the condenser channels are horizontal pipes in a
vertical array. It _appears_ as though each of 7 channels does one
round-trip, returning on the pipe just below. One channel would look like:
___ Inflowing vapor
(___ Outflowing
Is there a plausible explanation for why the temperature at which reaction
initiates in the E-Cat just happens to be so close to the boiling point of
water?
A NiH system doesn't bear any particular relationship to water that I can
see.
Is this a big scientific coincidence/serendipity or is there
There are actually some technical difficulties with a blank run in the
Rossi E-cat.
Wet cold fusion researchers sometimes have used H2O in a blank run,
and compared evolved heat using D2O with the blank output. If the D2O
produces a heat measurement value higher than the H2O then they can
Actually, the initiation temperature is much above 100 C. The heater is hidden
within the heat sink device is close contact with the core.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 2:35 pm
Subject:
You forgot to add the energy deposited during the heating period, about 2
hours, before the demonstration started the self-sustained mode.
The discussion on the Swedish Radio issue has concentrated on the
scam elements.
Krivit : Swedish Public Radio Turns Spotlight on Lewan and Ny Teknik
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/12/swedish-public-radio-turns-spotlight-on-lewan-and-ny-teknik/
Source: Radio Sweden
On 11-11-15 03:32 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
Owners yes. Users no.
And MAC address?
You put your MAC address in your email headers?
What on Earth for?
(FWIW that's the address (in known space-time) of your network card, and
it's not necessarily mapped 1:1 or even 1:n to user IDs, as a
At 11:32 AM 11/16/2011, James Bowery wrote:
Is there a plausible explanation for why the
temperature at which reaction initiates in the
E-Cat just happens to be so close to the boiling point of water?
Mostly coincidence, but it also represents the
point at which the entire system has heated
At 11:52 AM 11/16/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I haven't answered that yet --- but I've prepared a table of
Experiments/Attendees and Instruments
http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_eai_table.php
which IMHO substantially supports my comment.
Comments, clarifications and corrections are
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding the Right Brothers, when proof became irrefutable that
their contraption could fly under power, how did some of the most
ardent (and well known) skeptics deal with the news? I'm curious as to
what kind of follow-up might
Mary Yugo's recent cogent comments re blank runs are here replicated for
emphasis:
You keep saying that but it's not correct.
The purpose of controls (more precisely, blank runs in which nuclear fuel
is left out but an electrical heater is providing comparable power) is to
demonstrate that the
That link got snipped away :
I haven't answered that yet --- but I've prepared a table of
Experiments/Attendees and Instruments
http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_eai_table.php
which IMHO substantially supports my comment.
Comments, clarifications and corrections are appreciated.
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a plausible explanation for why the temperature at which reaction
initiates in the E-Cat just happens to be so close to the boiling point of
water?
The water never goes above 100°C because it is at one atmosphere. It boils.
In the Defkalion
This is the old ecat.com domain, that one with the videos about the
October's experiments. Now, it was refurbished and it looks like really an
official website.
http://ecat.com/
They even link directly to Jed Rothwell's website:
http://ecat.com/ecat-technology
I hope he doesn't mind giving out some free bandwidth! :)
2011/11/16 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
This is the old ecat.com domain, that one with the videos about the
October's experiments. Now, it was
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
So you have water in the two 1000 l reservoirs with an average temperature
of
~18 degrees (Celsius).
Output temperature was 104.5 C average.
I don't give a damn about steam. I presume the boiler wasn't operating at
look professional
http://ecat.com/
WTF
THEY MENTION WIDOM LARSEN THEORY AS THE THEORY FOR THE E-CAT!!!
http://ecat.com/ecat-technology/ecat-science
2011/11/16 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
They even link directly to Jed Rothwell's website:
http://ecat.com/ecat-technology
I hope he doesn't mind giving out some
I already posted this, LOL!
2011/11/16 David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com
look professional
http://ecat.com/
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