OK, I have to repeat myself: Rossi was found wholly not guilty (no crime
was committed, is the sentence) by not one but three courts in Italy for
trafficking in toxic waste, with the last sentence in November 2004. The
more I look into it, the more it seems that somebody with good connections
had
At 08:57 PM 11/20/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:38 PM,
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
wrote:
Absolutely! Widom-Larsen (where an electron combines with a
Proton to form a Neutron and a Neutrino).
has a critical mass, similar to the Coulomb barrier for regular
fusion.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
JC,
you used the specific wording,
“…the evidence has not improved at all.”
OK, that is obviously not a statement of scientific fact, but I thought it
would be clear that it represents a
At 11:31 PM 11/20/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
We are ready to pay you USD250,000 for the 5 diathermic oil E-Cat
modules and the control system. Do we now have a workable proposal?
Sorry he's ummm ... changed his mind.
As always our discussions are Commercial in Confidence.
Ummm ...
The best I can find on WL (1) is a list of papers at
http://muon.npl.washington.edu/exp/MuCap/literature1.html
but I don't have access to any of them.
Muon Capture in Hydrogen
Experiment
A. A. Quaranta, A. Bertin, G. Matone, F. Palmonari, G.
Torelli, P. Dalpiaz, A. Placci, E. Zavattini,
Just maybe those are not the entire contents of the emails. What is not
public knowledge and is subject to Confidentiality is the identity of
the company and what we intent to do with the E-Cat. That we are engaged
in attempting to acquire a 100 kW E-Cat system is public knowledge and
is
- Original Nachricht
Von: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 21.11.2011 05:49
Betreff: [Vo]:Modern theories of boiling
more...
http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/people/chang/boiling/discussion3.htm
Interesting is the discussion that in history
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Are you saying that WL --
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/cond-mat/pdf/0505/0505026v1.pdf Introduction,
First Column, up to Eqn (3) -- and Reference 1 -- are wrong? (I don't have
access to Ref 1 or a similar well known
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Muon Capture in Hydrogen
is separate from
Muon Catalyzed Fusion / Muon Chemistry
That's true. When you mentioned muons in the context of fusion, I just
assumed you were referring to muon-catalyzed fusion. Mea Culpa.
(I decided to bypass the Joshua Cude discussion, to get back to the
patent itself)
The text of the application is at
On 2011-11-21 02:35, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Dear Sirs,
We are selling only 1 MW thermal plants, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
That's too bad.
While I do understand what a full order book can do, it is disappointing
to say the least. So much for his 100 kW min size offer. May still be
doable
Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness:
http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2011/11/18/Piantelli-engine%5B1%5D.jpg
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=508
;-)
Peter
On 2011-11-21 12:41, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness:
http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2011/11/18/Piantelli-engine%5B1%5D.jpg
Also add, from this article, the information that Rossi sought
collaboration with Piantelli in 2007, but in the
It is impossible to ignore, that their latest devices look like Piantelli
devices and not like Rossi devices:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS%20RELEASE_2011-11-14.pdf
;-)
- Original Nachricht
Von: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
An:
Hmm, MY has already posted comments on thenextbigfuture concerning this
same piece of news... She hasn't shown up here yet. Odd.
On 2011-11-21 12:41, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness:
http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2011/11/18/Piantelli-engine%5B1%5D.jpg
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=508
By the way, it appears that Christos Stremmenos
What did he mean by that? I don't know how should a view that message.
2011/11/21 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
On 2011-11-21 12:41, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness:
Defkalion will sell you a 45 kW(th) plant. We expect to see their
announcement this week.
T
On 2011-11-21 13:54, Daniel Rocha wrote:
What did he mean by that? I don't know how should a view that message.
In very few words, that he is not happy with what Defkalion GT is doing
and has been doing so far. Sorry, this is not really related with the OP
regarding a possible Piantelli
What I don't really understand is if he is implying that Defkalion stole
Rossi's invention or if they are just making a scam using Rossi's
invention, which means bad publicity.
2011/11/21 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
On 2011-11-21 13:54, Daniel Rocha wrote:
What did he mean by
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
What did he mean by that? I don't know how should a view that message.
Neither do I. It is obvious from what we read that it is Andrea Rossi
who is in breach of contract if he was to deliver a reactor which was
stable
On 2011-11-21 14:10, Daniel Rocha wrote:
What I don't really understand is if he is implying that Defkalion
stole Rossi's invention or if they are just making a scam using
Rossi's invention, which means bad publicity.
I don't know myself.
That's not clear from what he's written in his latest
More on the old AguaFuel concepts, Santilli's paper:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/9805031v1
and Nauden's old stuff:
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/bingofuel/html/aquagen.htm
As coincidence would have it, some AquaFuel cousin companies are or
were located in Florida. Isn't that the state from
I'm being told that Dottore Magistrale in Filosofia is the
equivalent to a master's degree,
and not to a Ph.D.
Are there any Italian-speaking persons familiar with Italian research
education here
that could comment on this?
--
Berke Durak
Audiatur et altera pars- Defkalion, in this case:
What I understand is:
a) the Rossi Defkalion divorce took place because Rossi was not able to
show generators working more than 48 hours constantly;
b) the Greeks, having a very school of engineering have started very early
to develop the
Its interesting to watch how this rumour, that is based on pure speculation,
grows.
The more messages appear online with the words Defkalion, Rossi, Piantelli the
higher the weight is that Google gives to this associations. This increases the
number of postings exponentially and grows the
It's a Master degree.
I'm italian.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Berke Durak
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:So Rossi has a real Ph.D. obtained in 1975
I'm being told that Dottore Magistrale in Filosofia is the
equivalent to a
Yup, a Master. In philosphy, it required an experimental thesis, that is
an original work, but not of the quality required for a PhD. In Italy, one
is called Dottore with that degree. Indeed, it used to be the highest
degree until 1986, if I remember correctly the year.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at
Horace,
Just for your information, I was present at the foundation of the very
first Aquafuel Company in Largo (Tampa). Santilli (a mathematician
of genius) and Leon Toups a businessman (who after his death was declared a
saint- his son was working at the Vatican) have bought the patent of
I've tossed a few posters into my filter, generally for an excess of unamusing
puns, but I never understood the theory of compounding the annoyance with long
announcements of same.
On Nov 21, 2011, at 0:56, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Apparently, Mary is less pathological
This is a good example of why circumstantial evidence should be the last
resort. Who can deny that Rossi was indicted and tried? Who can deny that
the Italian government is corrrupt? Most importantly, how do you weigh the
virtually unlimited bits and pieces of circumstantial evidence against
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
DGT moderators' behavior doesn't help. They say that they never answer to
comments based on speculations, but they somewhat did here. A simple no
comment would have been clearer.
It also doesn't help that
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:28 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Its interesting to watch how this rumour, that is based on pure speculation,
grows.
The more messages appear online with the words Defkalion, Rossi, Piantelli
the higher the weight is that Google gives to this associations. This
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
It also doesn't help that Piantelli is allegedly working with another
company to introduce products:
http://www.nichenergy.com/
The web site is under construction still; but, would not surprise me
to come alive at any
Since Rossi said he never gave Defkallion his secret sauce then we should
treat DK like any other stand alone research team - Instead of chasing after
Rossi based on a broken contract DK should be pursuing a researcher to take
what they claim they already have to the next level. The patent mess
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
What I meant is that the flow rate may have been lower at the
beginning during the starting phase. Maybe it was zero.
Then what were they measuring at the output?
I'm under the impression that the temperature sensor
Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be surprising if Rossi would know this rate beforehand, since he
doesn't actually calculate the power until the end. He would need to get
it
(a) he probably did test runs and (b) there is a frigging control system.
Well said. Hilarious!
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Defkalion will sell you a 45 kW(th) plant. We expect to see
their announcement this week.
It might be a good idea for AR to approach Defkalion rather than Rossi.
They claim to have better reactors. I think their pricing is more
reasonable. I cannot see
He also says a 1 MW model cannot be reverse-engineered, but a individual
E-cat can. Can this be true?
Peter
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Defkalion will sell you a 45 kW(th) plant. We expect to see
their
I observe their blog. Lets see what they have when they reveal their
specs and have public Black Box test results like Rossi has. As for unit
prices, why would they go more than say 10% below Rossi's price?
Anything above COP 10 will have little influence on buying choice as the
input energy
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
and Rossi's calculation assumes a constant flow rate.
Which calculation? All you need is the quantity of water vaporized; it
doesn't
matter if they were vaporized at a constant rate or not.
The calculation in the
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
As for unit prices,
why would they go more than say 10% below Rossi's price?
Different market segments need to see different ROIs. Domestic users
would prefer a ROI of 3 years while a Industrial user might be
It should be an interesting next 12 months with at least 2 companies
selling LENR systems. I also note that both the EmDrive (Chinese claim
to have replicated) and the QDrive reactionless space drives apparently
work and will cause a few cracks in the set in concrete Laws. One
wonders if the
LENR does not violate neither energy nor momentum.
2011/11/21 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
It should be an interesting next 12 months with at least 2 companies
selling LENR systems. I also note that both the EmDrive (Chinese claim to
have replicated) and the QDrive reactionless
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
It should be an interesting next 12 months with at least 2 companies
selling LENR systems.
It will only become very interesting when someone can identify at least
**one** client who actually received a machine,
Re: Dean DriveJim Cox formerly of TRW Space Park has devoted his entire
life to
the Dean Drive. Seems to work..but...mechanically difficult. Jim now
is retired in lives
in Sparks NV bootstrap...@yahoo.com The Interial Drive by Professor
Alfio DiBella
of the University of Bologna works in
Sorry if anyone is upset. I might have been a bit prolific at posting but
it was mostly in response to responses. What shall I do? Avoid responding
to responses? Anyway, I will post less -- very little happening currently
except Rossi is contradicting himself again. This time it's about his
Joshua,
If this is a real phenomenon, might it not involve complex many-body
effects that first-order approximations can't capture?
Also, since this is a NASA patent, doesn't it have to go through a fairly
rigorous review process? and have some empirical data backing it?
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011
Sorry if anyone is upset. I might have been a bit prolific at
posting but it was mostly in response to responses. What shall
I do? Avoid responding to responses?
Keep posting. The hothouse flowers around here who are bruised by
what you say can use their killfiles.
Jim Cox videos of Dean Drive replication:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBvzCjpPcE Must admit I did build a unit but it
never worked.
AG
On 11/22/2011 2:46 AM, Ron Kita wrote:
Re: Dean DriveJim Cox formerly of TRW Space Park has devoted his
entire life to
the Dean Drive. Seems to
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Jim Cox videos of Dean Drive replication:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBvzCjpPcE Must admit I did build a unit but it
never worked.
Very unconvincing. If it's not simply sleight of hand, it seems to be
fooling
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:18 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Joshua,
If this is a real phenomenon, might it not involve complex many-body
effects that first-order approximations can't capture?
Sure, but saying it's complex does not make it plausible. WL don't actually
predict any
Must say that for once we agree that the test protocol needs significant
improvement. However both the EmDrive and the QDrive seem to work.
AG
On 11/22/2011 3:22 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
On 11-11-20 04:52 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
From Jed
From Esa
you guys had a real nice list going. then mary yugo joined.
im out of here.
Why don't you just block out Mary Yugo's message? Problem solved.
I'll do that in a week or so, and stop responding.
Esa, you
For inquiring minds:
Dean Drive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_drive
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/science/dean.html
EmDrive: http://emdrive.com/
QDrive: http://www.cannae.com/
AG
On 11/22/2011 2:34 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
LENR does not violate neither energy nor momentum.
2011/11/21
Again we agree. As we seem to be on a roll, care to make it a hat trick?
AG
On 11/22/2011 2:45 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
It should be an interesting next 12 months with at
Yeah, I don't think anyone has built a successful Dean Drive.
However, I believe the propulsion system patent granted to Eric R.
Laithwaite posthumously has a chance:
http://ip.com/patent/US5860317
T
There have been many complaints about the US patent office refusing to
grant anything that smacks of cold fusion ever since the mid 1990s.
Patterson was, I believe, the last person to be granted a patent and he is
now dead.
Does anyone have a cite for an official communication from the USPTO
I did follow up on what G. Harry Stine observed in a long steel rod:
http://www.rexresearch.com/dean/stine.htm Stine was only one of a few
that ever saw the Dean Drive in the flesh. I have searched for but never
found a video of the Dean Drive demo on the Dave Garroway Today Show.
I'm sure
Hello group,
Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat.
This time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi:
http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk
(credits to 22passi for the news:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:18 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Joshua,
If this is a real phenomenon, might it not involve complex many-body
effects that first-order approximations can't capture?
[...]
If there are some empirical data obtained by NASA on lenr or the WL
theory,
I would
From Stephen:
...
Actually I've found Joshua's comments to be occasionally quite insightful.
Furthermore, in his more recent posts he's generally dropped, suppressed,
or anyway mostly not mentioned his global anti-LENR stance, and stuck pretty
closely to the topic of Rossi, which makes his
Low energy nuclear reactions cause cognitive dissonance among many
skeptics. It is similar to the primal fear of the unknown.
T
From Akira:
Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This
time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi:
http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk
From Josephson:
...
It appears that the UK Department of Energy and
Climate Change (DECC),
In this and previous posts I said a few times that the energy needed for
electron capture by a proton is 780 MeV. That would be something, but it's
actually 780 keV, which is still a lot, and is about 10 times bigger than
what's needed for d-d fusion (less than 100 keV). I hope anyone who
actually
Well, the skepticism towards Rossi will be much worse if he refuses
Josephson's invitation. This guy is completely off mainstream and not
taking his word is really, really bad for his business...
2011/11/21 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
From Akira:
Have a read at the
I did recognize, but even so, I am not sure what you mean by energy needed
for capture. For example, in large nuclei, the required energy is 0, since
k-capture doesn't need to be induced or stimulated.
2011/11/21 Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
In this and previous posts I said a few times
From Daniel:
Well, the skepticism towards Rossi will be much worse if he refuses
Josephson's invitation. This guy is completely off mainstream and not taking
his word is really, really bad for his business...
IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed a few select
corporations who
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed a few select corporations
who believe in his technology he would give a fart about trying to appease
the scientific establishment.
He never did a fart about that. If he has
I sed:
IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed
a few select corporations who believe in his technology
he would give a fart about trying to appease the
scientific establishment.
Jed sed:
He never did a fart about that. If he has customers,
all the more reason to ignore
AG, I took a quick look at the EmDrive and QDrive information and must say that
it would take a lot more effort to have any idea of how they work.
One question which I would like to have answered is as follows: Do either of
these devices emit electromagnetic radiation in a direction that is
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Argh! I meant: wouldn't have given a fart! about what the scientific
establishment thought of him. Wouldn't!!!
We get it. Everyone knows Rossi has contempt for scientists. I think he
exaggerates his contempt. I have a feeling he
I've spoken to two patent attorneys about this, one who has been
involved in patents in this space. They were both clear that it's
policy, but have never seen a written policy, and could not find one
on a casual search. This smacks of unwritten rules, and that smacks of
, well, lawlessness.
One
I am glad Josephson did this but unfortunately I expect Rossi will decline
the offer. He says he does not want to do tests, and he means it.
Defkalion, on the other hand, said that by the end of this month:
A full specs sheet as well as product's basic design and their scheduled
third party
There is a Patent Office memo here:
http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/PatentOfficeMemo.jpg
I take this to mean they plan to deep six any application relating to cold
fusion. That has been the de facto policy ever since this memo was written.
However, the memo is vague enough that someone might
We discussed the Tovima article already. I do not think we have noted this:
And the catalyst? We asked. It's not supposed to be secret Rossi?
[Xanthoulis responded] All the technology used in devices at the Hyperion
KW and systems 1 to 5MW are our own design – different from those of Rossi
In their online form, Defkalion is still polite to Rossi, giving him credit
for the discovery. They should be polite. This is how a professional
business organization talks. As I see it, this interview and the tone in
their forum are intended to send a message to Rossi:
You better settle this
IMHO if Rossi did indeed discover/create a new catalyst then he has new
art and it would be patent-able. I think this is part of Rossi's
misdirection and why Defkalion has little to fear; either the catalyst is
nothing new or Rossi;s ownership is in question.
If this is the case I feel for
On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
Horace,
Just for your information, I was present at the foundation of the
very first Aquafuel Company in Largo (Tampa). Santilli (a
mathematician
of genius) and Leon Toups a businessman (who after his death was
declared a saint- his son
We have been attempting to understand the initial water capture discrepancy and
several issues come up which need an explanation. Mr. Cude and I have been of
the opinion that the ECATs must be full of water during an initiation period
since it seems logical that the check valves at the
Piantelli has worked with Ni powder, it is written in his 1995 patent
and this is the main reason Rossi's patent is not approved.
His process and work strategy is even better described in his 2010 patent.
The most probable scenario is this: Rossi has found an additive
that enhances the Ni-H
The Ottoman E-Cats appear to be the same from the September and October
tests. Think about the October 6th test (where we new the Cat started empty),
and how long it took for the output to register anything at all. Now add in
the fact that the October 6th thermocouple was much closer that
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
There is a Patent Office memo here:
http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/PatentOfficeMemo.jpg
I take this to mean they plan to deep six any application relating to cold
fusion.
It only says and means that they want to
I will send you the story privately if you wish. I have met very
interesting people. Have you read My cold fusion history I and II on my
blog.? I intend to continue this.
peter
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Peter
A person named Chan has posted a descriptive method of replicating a
version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim reached self
sustained fusion at 200 C for days.
http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html
On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:30 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/The_Z_theory_of_everything.php
it a nice article
Frank Znidarsic
It is indeed a nice article. Congratulations!
Regarding your equation (6), it is noteworthy that the speed of
thermal pulses in fine metal
There is a typo. I meant to say: Regarding your equation (6), it
is noteworthy that the speed of thermal pulses in fine metal wiskers,
which are propagated purely by conduction electron interaction, is
about 2 Vt = alpha*c.
On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Nov
A scam inside a scam. Marvellous.
-Messaggio originale-
From: David ledin
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:07 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat
A person named Chan has posted a descriptive method of replicating a
version of
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
The Ottoman E-Cats appear to be the same from the September and October
tests. Think about the October 6th test (where we new the Cat started
empty), and how long it took for the output to register anything at all.
I believe that was
See:
Zawodny, J., *Method for Producing Heavy Electrons, Patent US 2011/0255645
Al*. 2011, NASA.
For some reason EndNote puts the assignee at the end of the ID string.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZawodnyJmethodforp.pdf
Cage, K., *Memorandum: Cold Fusion Applications*. 1989, U.S. Department of
Can you reference this Horace? The only one to follow up that I know of is Dr.
Stiffler.
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Published today in the UK
There is a typo. I
Mary Yugo wrote:
The patent office has not denied all patents related to cold
fusion. Some have slipped through, mainly a technicality, such as
the one they gave Patterson because he was old.
That's nonsense. Nobody gets a patent because they're old.
Well, the Patent Office and
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo wrote:
Well, the Patent Office and Patterson both claimed they expedite patents
and waive the rules for elderly applicants, but perhaps you are right and
the Patent Office was lying.
Where does the patent
Mary Yugo wrote:
Where does the patent office claim that, pls?
I wouldn't know. Good luck finding it in their rules. Anyway, that's
what they told Jim Patterson. Maybe they changed the rule subsequently.
- Jed
On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:07 PM, David ledin wrote:
A person named Chan has posted a descriptive method of replicating a
version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim reached self
sustained fusion at 200 C for days.
http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html
Good
The interview took place 11/11/11 -- LOL. It's an audio mp3 file:
http://tomanddoug.com/podcasts/rossiShow_128.mp3
If Rossi is trying to avoid publicity, it's sort of strange that he was
still giving interviews after the October 28 demo.
If this was already posted, sorry for duplication. It's
I wrote:
Where does the patent office claim that, pls?
I wouldn't know. Good luck finding it in their rules. Anyway, that's what
they told Jim Patterson. Maybe they changed the rule subsequently.
Ah ha. Here's something about it:
If the applicant is more than 65 years of age or in a
On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
I will send you the story privately if you wish. I have met very
interesting people. Have you read My cold fusion history I and II
on my blog.? I intend to continue this.
peter
I would very much appreciate that.
I haven't read those
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
My guess is that the additive pompously called catalyst is not so special
and not so secret.
Of course it is secret. If it were not secret hundreds people would be
doing this experiment. Dozens are trying to do it. They have had some
success but they
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I wrote:
Where does the patent office claim that, pls?
I wouldn't know. Good luck finding it in their rules. Anyway, that's what
they told Jim Patterson. Maybe they changed the rule subsequently.
Ah ha. Here's
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