I agree. By then the necessary control algorithms and sensor choice /
development will be completed and implemented.
AG
On 12/24/2011 4:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
It means don't be surprised if he is no longer working with them 6-12
months from now.
harry
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM,
just a correction.
to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work.
Good engineer (in france we call that domain Automatique. It is the guys
who can stabilize a building heating, a rocket, a servo, an hybrid car
engine... an old branch of cybernetic) know how to extract key
It is true that you do not need to know how the system works to stabilize it,
although that would be helpful. All of the earlier tests, at least until the
October 28, 2011 demonstration, were most likely run in open loop and that is
why I suspect that Rossi used the self sustaining mode which
1. Italo A. Albanese
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:46
PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=39#comment-155669
Dear Andrea Rossi,
could you provide some more information about the e-cat heating your
factory? Power, cop, running time, temperatures? It would be
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
It is not sufficient evidence, but it still can be interpreted as
evidence of nuclear reactions.
Your alternative doesn't persuade me that the heat produced is
worthless as evidence. As everyone knows, there are
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not understand Harry’s objection. The electric power considered in
the model is represented by the blue curve in the upper left diagram of
http://i.imgur.com/SWbvW.jpg jpeg. This curve shows the exact data of the
First - Merry Christmas to you and to all colleagues
on the Web now.
The message of Andrea Rossi is clear;
- if he shows us the heater used in his building, the competition will
instal fake heaters and also show them as if they give heat. Hostile,
deceiving imitation.
Dictionary Rossi slang to
P. K. Iyengar died on December 21, 2011. As the head of BARC and later
chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission he was a major supporter of
cold fusion research. You will find papers and articles about him at
LENR-CANR.org
- Jed
I believe moke up is supposed to be mock-up. I just told Andrea that.
- Jed
On 24 December 2011 19:35, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe moke up is supposed to be mock-up.
But moke up is more cute word...
Anyways this really shows Rossi's intent that he publicly does not
give even a remote sense of trust but is trying actively to get people
go away
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
just a correction.
to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work.
Yes. People were able to control complex systems such as forging iron and
making wine for thousands of years without knowing how these things work.
On the other
High Temperature superconductors have commercial application yet, people
are not sure how they work exactly :).
2011/12/24 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
just a correction.
to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work.
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe moke up is supposed to be mock-up. I just told Andrea that.
Yes, as I noted, what moke up means is no mystery. So what does the
remainder of the gobbledygook mean? Is Rossi writing about what he expects
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Because of this madness of Rossi I lost 40 euros. We had a bet some
half year ago that by the end of the year, we have definitive and
unconditional proof for the technology. I lost my precious money,
because Rossi
Peter,
I think by moke up he means mock up, a nonfunctional
model or program to help visualize an end item.
Fran
National Instruments has an automated software package --
LabVIEW System Identification Toolkit
http://www.ni.com/pdf/labview/us/sys_id_toolkit.pdf
-- which (I assume) can converge to an optimal control strategy for an
unknown multi-input/multi-state system which may be non-linear, noisy and
Rossi's 10 kW heater, heating his factory? Really?
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
If Rossi is real, then I assume NI either possesses an e-cat, or has
access to one or to his 1-MW plant. Does anyone know?
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business
magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
If Rossi is real, then I assume NI either possesses an e-cat, or has
access to one or to his 1-MW plant. Does anyone know?
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a
Hello!
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 15:10 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business
magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for
Rossi...
How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any
other
Hi,
Merry Christmas to All of You!
Wish that Santa Claus brings an E-Cat or some Excess Heat to all who had
this on their wishlist.
But not to forget, there are more important things to wish, and I wish
this to everybody.
Best,
Peter
Hi!
I wish many e cats for everyone and 1 hyperion to Mary Yugo and Joshua
Cude, each.
2011/12/24 Peter vort...@online.de
Hi,
Merry Christmas to All of You!
Wish that Santa Claus brings an E-Cat or some Excess Heat to all who had
this on their wishlist.
But not to forget, there are more
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello!
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 15:10 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business
magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi!
I wish many e cats for everyone and 1 hyperion to Mary Yugo and Joshua
Cude, each.
Merry Xmas all.
I hope I get an E-cat. Meanwhile, I am not giving up the conventional
heater or tea kettle. I also hope I can
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 23 Dec 2011 23:07:01 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
wrote:
The problem was due to a cached web page from Rossi's site. I deleted the
browser cache on both systems and the ads went away.
With
No e-cats for you. Just a Hyperion.
2011/12/24 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi!
I wish many e cats for everyone and 1 hyperion to Mary Yugo and Joshua
Cude, each.
Merry Xmas all.
I hope I get an E-cat.
If Sterling properly interpreted Rossi - i.e. -
According to Rossi, NI will be creating the controls to monitor and
regulate this process. He said that their stipulation for the agreement
is that all the instrumentation for the E-Cat plants have by National
Instruments and logo on the
Rossi claims NI are working with Leonardo and the 1st US customer, at
their US install site on the 1 MW E-Cats control system.
AG
On 12/25/2011 6:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
That NI is making devices for Rossi means absolutely nothing
confirmatory to Rossi claims. It does not mean NI has ever
See:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ex-atomic-energy-commission-chairman-pk-iyengar-passes-away_1628601
- Jed
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Rossi claims NI are working with Leonardo and the 1st US customer, at
their US install site on the 1 MW E-Cats control system.
Maybe someone can get a verification from NI? If it's true and there
really is a
So many CF ara passing away... I hope this AR saga at least brings in new
people.
2011/12/24 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
See:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ex-atomic-energy-commission-chairman-pk-iyengar-passes-away_1628601
- Jed
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
First in all of human history??? Did you forget about Fleischmann and
Pons in 1989 and all the operational LENR devices that have been built
since then? As for NI, they have said they are working with Rossi on the
E-Cat control system. As for endorsement, Rossi has said all this work
is under
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business
magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for
Rossi...
How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any
other information you
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is certainly true that the peak occurs in a region that immediately
follows the highest temperature obtained within the heat storage medium.
The part that is anomalous is the fact that the bump I referred to at 16:00
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
First in all of human history??? Did you forget about Fleischmann and Pons
in 1989 and all the operational LENR devices that have been built since
then? As for NI, they have said they are working with Rossi on the
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Quite a while ago, I bought a rather elaborate proportional temperature
controller for an experimental device under a military contract. It may
have been from NI or maybe from a similar company -- I don't recall. But
they never saw the device and had no
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business
magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for
Rossi...
How do you know?
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I realize these developments bother the hell out of you
It only bothers me as an example of the sort of flimsy nonsense people make
serious decisions on.
You think these people are all idiots who have been hoaxed
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business
magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for
Rossi...
How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any
other information you can provide?
See:
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
See:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/11/11/national-instruments-and-cold-fusion/
Statement from John Pasquarette, Vice President of Corporate Marketing and
eBusiness, National Instruments.
- - - - - -
That was the statement from NI denying
The very first act I'd do is run my own home and office from the technology. In
winter the windows would be wide open to enjoy the fresh air as we roasted in
the balmy heat pouring from my heaters that were attached to nothing. That's
just me.
On Dec 24, 2011, at 12:57, Mary Yugo
*Specific details are still in development* says it all.
AG
On 12/25/2011 8:51 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com mailto:a...@well.com wrote:
See:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/11/11/national-instruments-and-cold-fusion/
Statement from John
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
There are thousands of researchers and engineers in the world trying to
solve alternative energy challenges and National Instruments provides tools
to many of these scientists. One example is the Leonardo Corporation
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
*Specific details are still in development* says it all.
Yes. It probably says that NI, like U of Bologna, is still probably
waiting to see the first of Rossi's cash.
Mary, it is quite unfortunate that he does not want to share additional
information concerning his model. This is just the sort of model that is
needed to determine whether or not it is possible to replicate Rossi results
with heat storage. I am trying to keep an open mind as much as
It just gets better and better with Leonardo, NI and the 1st customer
working together on delivering a new E-Cat:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=15#comment-156194
*
Neil Ferguson
December 24th, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I realize these developments bother the hell out of you
It only bothers me as an example of the sort of flimsy nonsense people
make serious decisions on.
Yes, I realize that. I did not mean to imply that you or Park fear that
cold fusion may be real. I
Mary, what is going on with your messages to this subject at times 12:13 and
12:21? I can not get them to load properly with my system. This was tried
several times to no avail.
Dave
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:35 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Mary, it is quite unfortunate that he does not want to share additional
information concerning his model. This is just the sort of model that is
needed to determine whether or not it is possible to replicate Rossi
Jed why do you bother? MY has an agenda to discredit everything about
LENR. Discussion is futile.
AG
On 12/25/2011 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Take it or leave it.
- Jed
OK, I will wait further for the information. It is pretty important to me to
determine if it is at all possible for enough energy to be stored and then
released to achieve Rossi's results. A good model such as your friends would
help immensely. You need to understand that it might become
If you wrap the link in these, it should better survive travel.
On Dec 24, 2011, at 12:21, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Sometimes email clients are not kindly to links and interpret/parse them
badly!
Rossi seems to be admitting Defkalion and / or others have products. He
will sell E-Cats at a price that will kill them in the market:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=7#comment-156211
2012 will be an interesting year. It is 10:15, 25 Dec 2011 in Australia.
Time to sign
Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed why do you bother? MY has an agenda to discredit everything about LENR.
Discussion is futile.
I agree it would be futile to try to persuade MY or Cude or the other
extremists. I gave up trying to do that a decade ago.
I say these things as
I have no trouble with any other posts, only those 2. I have received many
links before with no issues.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 24, 2011 6:18 pm
Subject:
Merry Christmas AG and to everyone else.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 24, 2011 6:20 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi says he will under price his competitors and kill them off
Rossi seems to be
1- We registered” E-Cat, Energy Catalyzer, The New Fire”
http://www.uspto.gov/index.jsp
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchssstate=4010:eprt88.8.1
(Note ... I don't seem to be able to bookmark an entry, because TESS follows
you in a session)
Go to TESS / Basic Word Mark
USPTO/Tess
You have won me and my board's support. We are working on investor and
client support as Rossi knows. It will happen. Expect to shortly have a
portable table top LENR demonstrator in operation. Based sort of on the
setup the high school kids did back in 2002 / 2003. Now back to roasting
the
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On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Now back to roasting the chickens for Christmas lunch. They do smell
delicious. Next year they will be cooked with Ni-H power. Of that I'm 100%
certain.
ROTFWL! As usual, you're roasting your chickens before
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:25 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I have no trouble with any other posts, only those 2. I have received
many links before with no issues.
Dave
If you send me the bad links, either privately or on the list, I'll rewrite
them as tinuyurls.
@Charles:
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just
completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is
still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start
showing to our clients and investors in 2012.
AG
On 12/25/2011 11:05 AM,
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just
completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is
still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will
Please reread my email.
AG
On 12/25/2011 11:36 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I
have just completed several
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Please reread my email.
Why? If you have something to say, please say it PLAINLY. I can't decode
what international trip is and what we now have a... device means. If
you went to see Rossi or Defkalion and
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Please reread my email.
Or are you saying you MADE a device? Geez, man, be CLEAR! If you claim
you made a device... did you get it tested independently and properly?
What are it's specifications? Without
In reply to Charles Hope's message of Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:21:53 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The very first act I'd do is run my own home and office from the technology.
In winter the windows would be wide open to enjoy the fresh air as we roasted
in the balmy heat pouring from my heaters that were
So, he admits that DGT has the technology to make fusion too, heh.
2011/12/24 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
will kill the Copy-Cats of the competitors.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
From Aussie:
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced?
I have just completed several international visits. The FPE was
real in 1989. It is still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE
device which we will start showing to our clients and investors
in 2012.
Hello again, Aussie,
I just noticed in a previous post that you state that you will shortly have
a portable table top LENR demonstrator in operation. However, you also
state in the same post that it will be more-or-less based on a setup high
school kids did back in 2002/2003. This gives me the
On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 11:26 +1030, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just
completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is
still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start
showing to our
To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune,
Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
No more; and by a sleep, to say we end
The heart-ache, and the thousand Natural
Yes, links. Mailers are supposed to preserve links inside the brackets. It's a
little known fact, but hopefully all the writers of mail software remember it.
On Dec 24, 2011, at 19:38, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:25 PM, David Roberson
Just wanted to make the Collective aware of this patent.
This came from a friend, HF, who knows the patent's inventor closely.
HF is a retired electrical engineer who worked for 20 years on unique,
one-of-a-kind atmospheric instruments, and then for 10 years on pulsed power
(Terawatts)
I have several operational FPE devices. Had you spent 25% of the time
you spend on internet chat rooms trashing the FPE and instead actually
engaged in talking to those who have replicated the FPE, you too would
have working FPE devices. There are none so blind as those who refuse to
see.
AG
So it seems. We live in interesting times.
AG
On 12/25/2011 12:23 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
So, he admits that DGT has the technology to make fusion too, heh.
2011/12/24 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
will kill the Copy-Cats of the
Not a Rossi or DGT device. But several working FPE cells. We will
replicate and make several demo devices.
AG
On 12/25/2011 12:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
From Aussie:
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced?
I have just completed several
The cells we have obtained are electrochemical FPE cells. They are not
commercial cells nor were they obtained from any of the sources in Jed's
archives, nor current FPE device suppliers such as Leonardo, Defkalion,
etc. We have made it openly known that we are in the market for FPE
devices.
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