Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread Axil Axil
*I will go way out on the limb here, but I predict that the Nobel-prize-winning laser physicist Steven Chu, who currently serves as President Obama's energy secretary, will no longer seek to remain in the job. Four years as head of the US Department of Energy cannot be easy and Chu, 63, will no

[Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2012-01-01 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, Happy New Year of LENR certainties for you all! Please read: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2012/01/informavores-sunday-no-488_01.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]: wired.uk on defkalion

2012-01-01 Thread James Bowery
If there were a movie portraying a world made continually overcast by the environmental engineering of vampires so they could rule the world and keep humans as livestock -- and the sun breaking through anyway to burn them all alive as the climax, then we would be onto something. Short of that,

[Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Inconclusive blather. See: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/12/31/2012-the-year-of-cold-fusion/

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Inconclusive blather. The only thing you can do with inconclusive data -- like Rossi and Defkalion's.

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread Harry Veeder
lol Harry On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:51 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Not good Harry, change it somehow.  Since Marry and I got engaged I am a whole lot happier.  Not even Jones upsets me any more. I predict I will spend another year alone. Happy New Year y'all. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread pagnucco
I agree, Jed. Forbes has deep enough pockets to send Mark Gibbs, along with a technically sophisticated companion, to a lab claiming CF or LENR anomalous energy or transmutation evidence. He should publicly issue a challenge to CF/LENR researchers to allow him to witness and monitor their

RE: [Vo]:How I propose to encode math in vortex discussions

2012-01-01 Thread Jones Beene
I tried to get a Version of 'Tex the World' that works with Firefox ver9 but there is none. From: Charles HOPE Avital Oliver wrote a lightweight browser plug-in for Firefox which renders LaTeX equations, called TEX http://thewe.net/tex/ THE WORLD. It has since been ported

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:54 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: He should publicly issue a challenge to CF/LENR researchers to allow him to witness and monitor their experiments. If we learned nothing else from the experiences with Rossi, it should be that witness and monitor isn't enough.

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread David Roberson
I predict that the world will formally acknowledge cold fusion aka LENR this year. The evidence will finally be so overwhelming that the physics community can no longer deny it. Of course they will claim that they knew it was happening, but only in the form of LENR and not cold fusion which

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Daniel Rocha
MY, that was a general challenge. Not specific to Rossi or DGT. 2012/1/1 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:54 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: He should publicly issue a challenge to CF/LENR researchers to allow him to witness and monitor their experiments. If

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread David Roberson
It would be interesting if a form of X-Prize was set up to reward the group that reaches an important LENR goal. The solving of the energy crisis is at least as important as any of the other prizes awarded. Dave -Original Message- From: pagnucco pagnu...@htdconnect.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mary Yugo will repent of her sins after a long pause and will become one of the best proponents of cold fusion filling all of the forums with glowing reports. Rossi will hire her as his spokeswoman since she can work

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread fznidarsic
Don't go to fast. In 1995 I came back, from Power Gen 95, to my Utility Employer and wrote and impact statement about Clean Energy Technologies device. It was reported, We have liftoff. Motorola offered 60 million for the technology. Miley independently tested it. By now all of the world

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-01-01 19:03, David Roberson wrote: The oil producers will make an all out attempt to stop the universal usage of cold fusion devices by claims of danger and radiation. I think it will more likely be the greens, climate activists, anti-technology / anti-progress groups, and more in

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread James Bowery
A founder of the US Tokamak program proposed just that in 1995: http://www.oocities.org/jim_bowery/BussardsLetter.html On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: It would be interesting if a form of X-Prize was set up to reward the group that reaches an

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Forbes has deep enough pockets to send Mark Gibbs, along with a technically sophisticated companion, to a lab claiming CF or LENR anomalous energy or transmutation evidence. He should publicly issue a challenge to CF/LENR researchers to allow him to witness

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
fznidar...@aol.com wrote: In 1995 I came back, from Power Gen 95, to my Utility Employer and wrote and impact statement about Clean Energy Technologies device. It was reported, We have liftoff. Motorola offered 60 million for the technology. Miley independently tested it. By now all of

RE: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
HI David, Loved reading your predictions. Good, well-thought-out predictions tend to make readers want to comment on them and add their own two cents... and yours is no exception. I predict that the world will formally acknowledge cold fusion aka LENR this year. The evidence will

[Vo]:Electromagnetic Composites at the Compton Scale

2012-01-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Electromagnetic Composites at the Compton Scale http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1110/1110.0034v1.pdf I. INTRODUCTION In recent years there have been a number of experimental observations that are dicult to explain within our nowstandard models of atomic and nuclear physics and cosmology.

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread pagnucco
Yes, but watching paint dry is ultra-exciting if the payoff is trillion$. Gibbs appears to be happy writing Forbes filler-pieces. He should get more creative. Anyone who has CF/LENR tech that they are confident in would certainly be happy to have it showcased in Forbes. It would be Win-Win-Win.

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:56 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Anyone who has CF/LENR tech that they are confident in would certainly be happy to have it showcased in Forbes. You'd think so. So why has it not happened? Gibbs doesn't seem in any way reluctant to write in detail about LENR

[Vo]:New 'Cold Fusion Now' Video - E. Storms on ..Metals that Work

2012-01-01 Thread pagnucco
Courtesy of coldfusionnow.wordpress.com Edmund Storms on The Nuclear Active Environment and Metals That Work coldfusionnow.wordpress.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SorcxYf8VYg He discusses Rossi, F-P, Piantelli, Ni-H, Pd-H Title: WordPress.com

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread pagnucco
So why doesn't he throw down the gauntlet? How hard is that?? Mary Yugo wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:56 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Anyone who has CF/LENR tech that they are confident in would certainly be happy to have it showcased in Forbes. You'd think so. So why has it

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: \The Year of Cold Fusion\

2012-01-01 Thread francis
I agree Gibbs is just writing filler pieces but the way he bends the facts and creates straw men to aggravate LENR proponents into doing his homework is infuriating, We never said it was fusion or that it was known physics -both of which premises he assumes to support his skeptical platform while

Re: [Vo]:New 'Cold Fusion Now' Video - E. Storms on ..Metals that Work

2012-01-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
After the talk they show the gas loaded Ni experiment in his lab. Worth seeing. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:How I propose to encode math in vortex discussions

2012-01-01 Thread ecat builder
Download and install GreaseMonkey (you can search via FireFox addons) or go here: http://www.greasespot.net/ Once GreaseMonkey is installed and FireFox is restarted, click on the userscript on this page: http://thewe.net/tex/ And the following should be real pretty. [;e^{\pi i} + 1 = 0;] -

[Vo]:Defkalion described how they got Rossi's formula

2012-01-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an article published in November: Defkalion: 'We have Rossi’s formula' http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3353181.ece I should have paid closer attention to this. In this article, Xanthoulis says they got the formula from mass spec data taken by U. Padua. I think

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion described how they got Rossi's formula

2012-01-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: If there was subterfuge, it is no wonder Rossi is upset. But Rossi is also guilty of subterfuge. He has copied the geometry of Defkalion. Note that Defkalion stated they were surprised at what they saw when the October

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion described how they got Rossi's formula

2012-01-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Defkalion's kernel is rectangular, not cylindrical.  They have found a way to wafer the kernel in such a way that the reaction is spread over a greater area. Here's the thread on Defkalion's geometry. I suspect that

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion described how they got Rossi's formula

2012-01-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I remember reading some of this stuff. Regarding the following statement from DGT: ... We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing. We were confused why our old designs were implemented wrongly, as well as witnessing insufficient use of instruments and

[Vo]:COLD FUSION - The Answer to all our energy problems ?

2012-01-01 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3eOWIvb6vMnoredirect=1 Hey Frank Z you get a nice mention.

Re: [Vo]:COLD FUSION - The Answer to all our energy problems ?

2012-01-01 Thread James Bowery
He's off by a factor of ten on the amount of money that has been spent on hot fusion research. The assertion that the theory is now known is nonsense. It may be that one of the many theories out there is correct, but that doesn't mean it is known which of those theories it is. On Sun, Jan 1,

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread ecat builder
Forbes is all about business and investing. I've been a subscriber 25 years. This is my take: Gibbs is alerting readers that there is a probability that energy stocks could quickly lose value due to a Cold Fusion device impacting traditional energy demand. Some believe it is a zero percent

Re: [Vo]:New \'Cold Fusion Now\' Video - E. Storms on ..Metals that Work

2012-01-01 Thread francis
I like that he spoke in generalities- I completely agree with what he outlined regarding the environment disassociating the molecules into atoms but he probably would not commit to my posit based on Naudts, Moller and Lyne that it is the change in Casimir force that performs the disassociation.

Re: [Vo]:COLD FUSION - The Answer to all our energy problems ?

2012-01-01 Thread Drowning Trout
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 10:12 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: He's off by a factor of ten on the amount of money that has been spent on hot fusion research. The assertion that the theory is now known is nonsense. It may be that one of the many theories out there is correct, but

[Vo]:Anyone have the paper A. Carnera, S. Focardi, A. Rossi, to be published on Arxiv?

2012-01-01 Thread noone noone
Does anyone know where the following paper can be located? A. Carnera, S. Focardi, A. Rossi, to be published on Arxiv It is referenced in the following paper. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=53 I think it is a paper that Arxiv rejected. I think the paper would be very interesting

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion described how they got Rossi's formula

2012-01-01 Thread noone noone
So where is the data obtained from the mass spec data taken by U. Padua? Is it in the paper, A. Carnera, S. Focardi, A. Rossi, to be published on Arxiv From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 7:04 PM

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread Alain Sepeda
I support more or less your predictions. many (not all) Green will try to oppose LENR because it is agains their agenda. it is breaking their plot to make a better world by reducing comfort, energy, consumption, sins, and corruption of the nature. it is breaking their agenda to use climate fear