Peter, How about this cheap heating element. Fits inside a 1/4 copper tube
perfectly.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350505999493?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l1313%26_nkw%3D350505999493%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1_rdc=1
Jojo
You see that they have answered promptly.
Are you contented with the answer?
In my opinion it is not justified and not reasonable to treat these
gentlemen with suspicion and/or hostility, why should they pay for Rossi's
disastruous PR methods?
Peter
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:35 AM, David Roberson
Dear all,
I succeded in fixing the issue during the night, while sleeping...
From the point of view of congruence of figures, a term is missing in Eq.
(23), that is the inverse of 4*pi*epsilon-zero (the dielectric constant).
In you put this term, then the figure in Eq.(25) turns out to be exact.
David:
Who knows what Rossi is using for the heating elements! J Things change on a
weekly basis with him…
IIRC, earlier last year, Rossi said they used a “Programmable Lighting
Controller”… PLC. However, that acronym has different meanings; to most in the
USA, PLC stands for
JoJo Thankyou for helping , it might just do the trick
I have a young electrical engineer helping me out once a week , he is
concerned the element it self may not handle the pressures building up in the
chamber
In our intended experiments we are going to do 2 main types
1.
Pete, you're welcome.
I'm using this same heating element in my disposable reactor. I'm attempting
replication of Rossi, not Phen\Chan which I think may be a red herring.
Something just does not smell right to me about Chan\Phen's method. I suspect
Chan\Phen may have ignited the propane in
2000-6000psi hydrogen is pretty dangerous, be very careful about your
design and setup, make sure all your valves seals and fittings are able to
withstand those pressures, keep those valves, seals and fittings away from
high temperatures, and try to keep reactor vessel volume small.
I believe
Greetings Vortex:
http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html
Great news,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
The question illuminates, not the answer (Eugene Ionesco)
Why you are not asking on the DGT forum?
I did and they responded:
The reactor tested during such shots was equipped with a triggering
mechanism, as it appears in
ok, thanks.
about other problems with the assumptions, I cited an official critic by a
phisicist on the assumptions...
maybe you already are reading it.
2012/2/1 Gigi DiMarco gdmgdms...@gmail.com
I succeded in fixing the issue during the night, while sleeping...
be careful with the effect of hydrogen on any metal (make hydrides, make
brittle, leaks and then self-ignite- H can burns a µg/min according to
wikipedia, check airliquide.com for safety of H2...)
maybe (I have no clue) H2 can transform the characteristics of a
thermocouple, especially at high
This is bad practice ! (and it is not a small point). Often thermocouple
is used generically.
Thermocouples are NOT adequate for this kind of measurement, in the long
term. They are cheaper but degrade too easily.
For reliable measurement of hydrogen at higher temps - you should use RTDs.
Especially since the implication of this is that the triggering is via
resistance heating (what else could it be operating at 24 VDC?) ... and
consequently the purpose of the variac is to vary the temperature manually
via voltage into an AC/DC converter (diode and filters) instead of
automatically
I my previous job as a IC engine development engineer we used platinum RTDs
(also called PRTs) for most water and air temperatures (200°C), but
thermocouples for all exhaust temperatures (500°C) where errors of 1-2°C
don't really matter.
While platinum RTDs are best, they are several times the
Robert Lynn wrote:
A cheap thermocouple with error of 1-2°C is OK for an amateur
experiment measuring reactor temperatures that are in the range
4-700°C . . .
Many professional HVAC engineers use K-Type thermocouples. They are not
only for amateurs.
- Jed
2012/2/1 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
... and we have seen indications in other images of the
purported controller (Arduino box)
Cool, so they use Arduino ! an open platform for micro-controller... good
choice.
good tools, open, cheap, multi-source, and enough for the job.
ahh I regret to
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but DGT have never claimed the long runs of Rossi
where there are 4-6 hours of high heat with no input (other than 50 watts
RF). Or have they?
To my knowledge, they have never claimed to run at
No pictures of the demonstration?
harry
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings Vortex:
http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html
Great news,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
I have a great deal of confidence in DGT and their products. I think you must
have misunderstood my statement if you believe that I hold them with any
serious suspicion. Also no one would say that I am hostile toward themin
fact I am extremely happy that they offer an alternative to the
Thanks Mark! This is excellent information that I missed since I joined to
group much later.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Name that tune
David:
Who
Vortex:
By coincidence I will be in Chicago on the 11th and in the Spirit of the
year of Cold Fusion :) I thought I would go see the film. Anyone from the
Vortex planning to attend the event. Just Curious.
Ransom
http://www.137films.org/NewsDetailPage/Work-in-progress-screening.
The
With all the floating theories on how Rossi Cold Fusion works, do we have a
consensus on whether the Ni powder needs to be attached to the reactor walls?
or free floating inside the reactor?
There are very good reasons for either strategy. I have read all the comments
on this collective on
YW!
-mark
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Name that tune
Thanks Mark! This is excellent information that I missed since I joined to
group much later.
Dave
-Original
I do have some design ideas to ask the collective about.
What if:
We had a standing reactor vessel with a heater at the bottom, that is
not cooled in any way so it does get red hot quickly.
fill the vessel with h2 and a pile of nano nickel on the bottom and
fire up the heater, in my mind ,
The one big disadvantage of using the reactor walls is in replacing the
embedded powder. When the powder is spent, the whole core must be
discarded...not competitive.
On the other hand, nano-powder may be too tiny to allow surface phonons to
propagate correctly (however that might work). Nano
Thanks Axil,
What do you think of my recipe below:
I plan to heat Ni powder to say 300-400C (below curie point) in open air to
allow creation of Nickel Oxides. Also heat some copper powder and some iron
powder in open air for the same purpose. Mix about 7% copper and 3% iron
powder with Ni
Von: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
An: Vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 19:17 Mittwoch, 1.Februar 2012
Betreff: [Vo]:To Sinter or Not to Sinter
With all the floating theories on how Rossi Cold
Fusion works, do we have a consensus ..
er, I have a bad feeling about this...
within mutual service, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
No pictures of the demonstration?
harry
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings
Sorry, Ron but is this Pd-D or Ni-H, aqueous
or vapor phas, at what power level?
I don't find any relevant information by simple fast search.
Thank you for any data
Peter
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings Vortex:
Yes, an investment of 100K is possible. I've actually budgeted 2 Million for
this endeavor, although at this stage, I am starting with very cheap and simple
reactor and calorimeter designs. I am only spending a few hundred right now.
Before long, I have no doubts I will need a glove box,
New E-Cat
Terminology
http://22passi.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-e-cat-terminology.html
This time Passi lets us know he's JOKING :
I share with readers of all 22 steps, to joke a little 'minds and
refreshing the hottest, the written text of a funny email from a friend
last week.
PS And please,
Von: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
An: Vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 20:52 Mittwoch, 1.Februar 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:To Sinter or Not to Sinter
...Before long, I have no
doubts I will need a glove box, and industrial microwave, some custom RF
I agree with Günter here, with one proviso. If you very clever to start out
with, do your homework perfectly, take adequate precautions and have lots of
Lab experience - then you might get lucky even on a low budget, if everything
were to go perfectly. In retrospect, once all is known, this
McKubre's response at
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111210McKubreResponse.shtml :
People sometimes question the value a traditional scientific
education but this case highlights one of its clear benefits. Poor
Steve simply does not know what he does not
know. ...
I am sorely tempted to give experimental advice even though I have no right
to. So let me succumb.
I would not do this stuff myself out of fear of bodily harm.
In the beginning of your experimentation, I would keep it as simple as
possible.
IMHO, the excess heat detection route is not the
So, two 60 meters or so objects with drag marks some 200m aparts ... weird.
The team said they'll be back on the site in may, looking for investors (lol),
and they might bring tourists too.
Who wants to go diving ?
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Technology/ht_bactic_sonar_mystery_thg_120130_wg.jpg
Jones, while I feel the task to replicate Rossi would be very difficult, I do
not believe it is impossible. Rossi was able to get lucky so I feel my chances
are good given the quality of the people in this collective. And given that we
have already narrrowed down many of the factors, like
When protons enter a micro cavity, they rattle and dance around it for a
long, long time. All the while, the walls are vibrating…moving back and
forth in a random fashion in the protons reference frame, As they bounce of
the walls, the walls give and take energy away on each bounce. So when the
Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the emabarassing
experimental advice coming. I have learned a lot from you and many other
people here. Vortex has been the most useful forum as far as gaining insight
into replicating Rossi.
Yes, I have a gieger counter that will detect
In reply to Ron Kita's message of Wed, 1 Feb 2012 07:10:26 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Greetings Vortex:
http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html
Great news,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Quote (on Rossi E-cat):-
RADIO FREQUENCY GENERATORS -- He claims that the radio frequency generator
allows the forces that would
From Terry:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/swedish-shipwreck-hunters/index.html
I've been more-or-less following this event when it first came out. I
hope they get the funding they need in order to take a closer look.
Obviously, it's fun to speculate on what this very odd shape
See
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVj69R66Agg
This cloud chamber build seems the most convergent to me. You don’t need to
pick up any dry ice here.
When in YouTub, search on “cloud chamber” There are many how to do it
videos on this subject.
The following paper contains a picture of a proton
Jojo,
I agree. There is a certain amount of risk in just getting out of bed in
the morning
On Wednesday, February 1, 2012, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the emabarassing
experimental advice coming. I have learned a lot from you and
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Chewy! That's the last time I'll let you park the Falcon using the
automatic setting!
Probably not the MF; but, this one:
Using side-scan sonar, the team found a 60-meter diameter
cylinder-shaped
From Terry,
Probably not the MF; but, this one:
Using side-scan sonar, the team found a 60-meter diameter
cylinder-shaped object, with a rigid tail 400 meters long.
We have not seen the image. A cylinder 18 stories high by four
football fields long? I know it's not Rama; but, that's one
Thanks Robert
I appreciate you advice
Im in no hurry and safety is my main concern . Overall I dont build anything .
I get other proffesionals to build . I have a machinist who has worked with
enourmous pressures and gasses . Our chamber will be very small , with several
shut down features
At 03:00 PM 2/1/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Boy! What if it eventually does turn out to be a 400 by 60 meter
long cylinder?
My first thought was a crashed zepellin ... but Graf v Z is 236 by 30
: about half the size.
Hi JoJo
More information , thankyou . I have only been on Vortex a few months and I
have gained much insight . There's a lot of smart people here with a wide range
of views . Im starting to learn to appreciate the critisisims more as well .
Its good to be challenged
There are a few
From Alan:
McKubre's response at
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111210McKubreResponse.shtml
...
McKubre states:
People sometimes question the value a traditional scientific
education but this case highlights one of its clear benefits. Poor
Steve simply does not know what he
Managed Danger
Agreed
There a great Saying in a movie Shawshank Redemption that I love . It
had 2 main actors , Morgan Freedman and the other ..( I forget)
Anyway it was .Get busy living or get busy dieing
Safety is a priority to me , but not dieing of regret or
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:33 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
The laundry will eventually sort itself out.
Reminds me of ROSSIni's La Gazza Ladra. :)
T
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Peter B ddc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Managed Danger
Agreed
There a great Saying in a movie Shawshank Redemption that I love .
It had 2 main actors , Morgan Freedman and the other ..( I forget)
Anyway it was .Get busy living or get
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
... this implies a negative ion, which I think means that Rossi
subscribes to the shrinking negative ion theory.
Robin,
... sure you did not mean to say the minimal hydrino hydride theory :-)
J.
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The Thieving Magpie ?? Is this a meta4 Lewis ?
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Reminds me of ROSSIni's La Gazza Ladra. :)
T
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The Thieving Magpie ?? Is this a meta4 Lewis ?
Lewis, Kivit and the whole production. Not to mention that it brings
to mind a Clockwork Orange, a dystopian dream.
I am now reading China Mieville's The City the City, which
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:18:58 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
... this implies a negative ion, which I think means that Rossi
subscribes to the shrinking negative ion theory.
Robin,
... sure you did not mean to say the
Fusion is on the list for Energy generation ... but with a ranking of ZERO !!!
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=13354page=191
On a scale from 0 to 400
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=13354page=201
(I'm looking at the low-quality preview .. you can register to get the PDF)
They are expecting great things from fusion I see. Wonder what happened to the
positive outlook that they expressed earlier?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:35 pm
Subject: [Vo]:NASA Roadmap
Fusion
Greetings Vortex-L:
I have a strong dislike for Magnet Motors VideosBUT...this one seems
to have gone viral 267,500+ hits --with many many likes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwusfeature=player_embedded
Note: For Entertainment Purposes Only.
Ron Kita...IS it a Fake?
Terry
Tim Robbins ...That's him ...always helps me decide what I'm going to
do when I think Im down for the count
Decide to . fight or surrender
Some things take years but its worth it
Pete
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:09:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:To Sinter or Not
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Peter B ddc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Terry
Tim Robbins ...That's him ...always helps me decide what I'm going
to do when I think Im down for the count
Decide to . fight or surrender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTv1Dmu5CYcfeature=fvst
T
Perhaps this has already been discussed on Vortex-l, but a quick search
yielded the following paper -
Formation of Cooper pairs in quantum oscillations of electrons in plasma
http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4596
- I have only briefly perused it, but if it's correct, it may point out
some connections
JoJo wrote:
Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the embarrassing
experimental advice coming. I have learned a lot from you and many other
people here. Vortex has been the most useful forum as far as gaining
insight into replicating Rossi.
And PeterB wrote:
I have only been
Lou:
I looked at the subject lines of the author's other papers and it seems he's
focused on ball lightning... and it may be relevant.
The other thing that comes to mind are 'charge clusters' which came out of
Ken Shoulders' and Hal Puthoff's research. Try searching for 'charge
clusters' and/or
Thanks Mark
That should help quite a bit
Pete
From: zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:05:10 -0800
JoJo wrote:“Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the
embarrassing experimental advice coming. I have
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