On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?
If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise method for
measuring the actual energy provided by your magnets! :)
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:54 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?
If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise
Mark,
Thanks for remembering this thread. It is definitely worth revisiting in the
context of a number of issues related to finding the proper and ultimate
source of gain in Ni-H.
I had actually delayed moving on to a Part 2 of this premise for a number
of reasons including apparent lack of
It is possible that somewhere down the road, a cross-over technology from a
completely different field (like information technology) may be needed to
take Ni-H to the required level of true on demand repeatability - over
many months. To wit, something like this:
I have been wondering about this as well.
Experiments using such films with different dimensions of etched squares
would be a good way of quantifying the way that the process depends on
dimensions, which would in turn help us understand what exatcly is going on.
Trying to get repeatable data
The fervor with which W-L adherence advocate that theory is appropriate for
a theory that has been strongly inferred experimentally against the array
of competing theories.
However, I see no such strong inference in evidence.
Assuming nanotech can fabricate structures at the 15nm feature size,
PESN had the following to say concerning the latest info on Rossi's
attempt to get adequate patent protection:
http://pesn.com/2012/02/02/9602025_E-Cat_Weekly_February2/
*
* Patents
- On January 17, 2012, T.O. wrote: I have a very
Perhaps, someone could devise a long-running magnetic energy extractor
building on the simple approach in:
A Magnetic Linear Accelerator
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/lin_accel.pdf
If so, I bet it would be popular in toy stores.
William Beaty wrote:
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012,
Rossi is being a victim of himself, and only himself, by not making a clear
patent. That's all I have to say.
2012/2/3 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
PESN had the following to say concerning the latest info on Rossi's
attempt to get adequate patent protection:
W-L theory is already dead in the water for Ni-H for two reasons:
1)There is no neutron activation, which could not be avoided if the
theory was valid
2)The technology of ultra low temperature neutrons is well know and
bears no resemblance to the invented species: ultra low momentum
CERN has spent $ten billion and counting to verify how particles get their
mass from the Higgs field. As I understand the Higgs theory (whose
implications about the acquisition of mass by particles I might not fully
comprehend) the Higgs mechanism is a process that is *universal and constant
*
Aside from all the speculation, ideas, notions, concepts and/or so-called
technology being proposed, considered, persued, etc etc, I am convinced there
is indeed ONE true system that will enable the vastness of interstellar
space to be traveled, and/or ETI's AC's to exist among the stars in a
Aside from all the speculation, ideas, notions, concepts and/or so-called
technology being proposed, considered, persued, etc etc, I am convinced there
is indeed ONE true system that will enable the vastness of interstellar
space to be traveled, and/or ETI's AC's to exist among the stars in a
Aside from all the speculation, ideas, notions, concepts and/or so-called
technology being proposed, considered, persued, etc etc, I am convinced there
is indeed ONE true system that will enable the vastness of interstellar
space to be traveled, and/or ETI's AC's to exist among the stars in a
Aside from all the speculation, ideas, notions, concepts and/or so-called
technology being proposed, considered, persued, etc etc, I am convinced there
is indeed ONE true system that will enable the vastness of interstellar
space to be traveled, and/or ETI's AC's to exist among the stars in a
It might well be that there are multiple reactions possible in the very
broad concept of cold fusion. It is my current humble opinion that it is a
mistake to try to cover all the instances of cold fusion with only one
theory.
One theory that might explain what is causing transmutation of elements
I think ET is using an auto-dialler. Where's the intergalactic call blocker?
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
One theory that might explain what is causing transmutation of elements in
an electric arc of a Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann reactor
There is no electric arc in this reactor.
- Jed
IMO, the quest to explain origin of inertia (mass) in terms of an
energy field (higgs field) is topsy-turvy, because historically and
logically the concept of inertia is more basic than than the concept
energy. Energy is a derived concept.
It is like trying to explain the origin of Judaism in
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:54 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?
If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
I assume Rossi is referring to his attempts to get adequate USA patent
protection.
INAL, and maybe Beene or Ransom will interject here but, does not Rossi
already have patent protection having
INAL = me no lawyer. I meant IANAL but, geeze, I'm not anally retentive
either.
T
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
I assume Rossi is referring to his
Terry sez:
INAL = me no lawyer. I meant IANAL but, geeze, I'm not anally retentive
either.
When I first saw INAL I immediately went to an online acronym finder
to decipher what Terry was saying cuz I really didn't have a clue.
See:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/INAL.html
INAL stands for I'm
PS:
INAL could also stand for I need a life.
Try substituting that for interpreting what Terry really meant to say
Just trying to give Terry a hard time. ;-b
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
An executive has fiduciary responsibility to his stockholders. This means
he must pursue due diligence regarding the protection of the assets of the
company. Since the USPTO has made the patentability status of cold
fusion claims unclear, for Rossi to expose his trade secret in a patent
In reply to James Bowery's message of Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:47:43 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
The fervor with which W-L adherence advocate that theory is appropriate for
a theory that has been strongly inferred experimentally against the array
of competing theories.
However, I see no such strong inference in
From James,
An executive has fiduciary responsibility to his stockholders.
This means he must pursue due diligence regarding the protection
of the assets of the company. Since the USPTO has made the
patentability status of cold fusion claims unclear, for Rossi to
expose his trade secret in a
...what is happening inside ...the ovaries of a chicken.
http://www.rexresearch.com/goldfein/goldfein.htm
??
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cross-over technology
It might well be that
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:47:47 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
There is nothing to be gained from a logical perspective by being there in
person, as we may find out in our collective future, Newt notwithstanding.
Especially not if you hold the less controversial view that
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:47:47 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
The proof could be found a special kind of data
processor designed for one thing - ostensibly - but which will document the
nature of remote information transfer directly. In effect, it will allow ET
to call on a
RV stuff is too tricky and approximate to be reliable. They made over 100K on
silver futures but could never do it again. Russell Targ's daughter did
predictive viewing of roulette at the top of the hour and got asked to leave
casinos but could only specify red or black.
The big thing to
IAAL, does that stand for I am a lawyer, anyway, I am not a patent lawyer but
I do know that the patent application can protect your intellectual property if
written correctly. So I think the issue with Rossi is was his application
sufficiently clear to protect his intellectual property? And
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 1 Feb 2012 07:34:59 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Especially since the implication of this is that the triggering is via
resistance heating (what else could it be operating at 24 VDC?) ... and
You need at least 20 V to ionize most atoms to create free electrons
Robin comments on Heisenberg Uncertainty applied to remote viewing:
I am beginning to suspect that there is a Heisenberg uncertainty aspect to
remote viewing. The more clearly something is seen, the less is known about
where or when it is. :)
I think this could also apply to Rossi's progress
I am jumping the gun a bit by posting some older background information on
the interplay between particle size and another variable ... one that can be
called roughness, structure, or specifically fractal structure.
The gentleman who brought this to my attention is not yet a vortex
subscriber,
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
in the context of this article
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1110/1110.1919v1.pdf
It's very annoying when they don't give the titles of their references. It
helps determine why they pursue the idea they are
At 05:21 PM 2/3/2012, Randy Wuller wrote:
IAAL, does that stand for I am a lawyer, anyway, I am not a patent
lawyer but I do know that the patent application can protect your
intellectual property if written correctly. So I think the issue
with Rossi is was his application sufficiently clear
I think the assumption must be that Rossi has a device which will work,
otherwise there is not much point in this speculation.
If Rossi's device works, I think he will get his patent if the application
is properly written and complies with the application requirements.
However, that doesn't mean
Sure, Rossi is basically cornering himself. He could license and protect
right now his invention, given that patents, unlike trademarks, are
granted provisional protection from the day it was filed.
2012/2/3 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
At 05:21 PM 2/3/2012, Randy Wuller wrote:
Jones:
Just adding to the 'clues'... this from my posting Dec.17, 2011.
Look for phi-ratios in the numbers...
-Mark
=
Golden ratio hints at hidden atomic symmetry
Jan. 7, 2010
Courtesy Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres and World Science
By tuning the system the
There are real problems with his patent. Not only is there a host of un-cited
prior art, patent and public domain, but his existing patent application has
limited application to even his current product line.
IANAL, but his patent application centers on the physical construction of his
early
We don't know yet if his catalyst is unprotected. There is a secret period
of 18months after filing.
2012/2/3 Robert robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
There are real problems with his patent. Not only is there a host of
un-cited prior art, patent and public domain, but his existing patent
From the Washington
Posthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54964-2004Nov16_2.html
:
Research money has dried up. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has
refused to grant a patent on any invention claiming cold fusion. According
to Esther Kepplinger, the deputy commissioner of
Michele Comitini sent me this link:
http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=lenrcmpt=q
Neat, eh? LENR-CANR.org traffic has also increase, but not to this extent.
The map shows that most of the interest is in the U.S. and Italy.
- Jed
Most of it is from Italy! Haha :)
2012/2/3 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Michele Comitini sent me this link:
http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=lenrcmpt=q
Neat, eh? LENR-CANR.org traffic has also increase, but not to this extent.
The map shows that most of the interest is in
In reply to Robert Lynn's message of Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:56:00 +:
Hi,
[snip]
I believe Rossi operates at about 25bar (350psi).
Doesn't his patent app. say 2-20 bar? If so then one could probably get
something to work (for demonstration purposes) near the lower end of the scale.
It may not be
I don't understand your point, of course Rossi is faced with a difficult
choice, and of course it is easy for us to say what we would do in his shoes,
since we aren't, but ultimately, Rossi has no real choice. If he is ever going
to make the fortune he obviously desires, he needs to risk no
Food for thought...
I'm looking at wikipedia's List of elementary particles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles
and all Quarks and Leptons have an opposite (antiwhatever)...
and the three charged leptons (i.e., electron, muon and tau) each have
integer spin.
I would argue,
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